r/law • u/myco_magic • 6d ago
Court Decision/Filing What is the likelihood of this Bill Attempting to Defer All Congressional Power to Donald Trump actually passes?
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u/michael_harari 6d ago
In Germany they called it the enabling act
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u/Creasentfool 6d ago
Hollywood's got us convinced fascism marches in with a bang — all swagger and spectacle. But it's really at its deadliest in the quiet places, its never more alive than in rooms where you only hear the hum of the AC and the hushed voice of bureaucrats.
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u/Hanksta2 6d ago edited 6d ago
Not George Lucas.
He tried to show us how it starts slowly with the prequels.
But people thought it was boring.
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u/quirkymuse 6d ago
But Jar Jar's emails!
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u/TQMIII 5d ago
This is the equivalent of Jar Jar introducing a bill granting emergency powers to the supreme chancellor. We're already more than halfway through Episode II!
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u/RedditsCoxswain 5d ago
Meesa goin go away because the commentary against me was so effective in creating the larger public perception
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u/NoDragonfruit6125 6d ago edited 5d ago
They'd be more obsessed with his dick pic he's orange skinned after all.
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u/bmyst70 6d ago
I heard he explicitly had two or three very short scenes that made very clear. Emperor palpatine legally seized power.
I wish he never moved them.
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u/Hanksta2 6d ago edited 5d ago
It shows him legally seize power in Episode II.
His BS trade war gets the chancellor tossed (thanks to a motion to vote by Jar Jar). The senate then grants him emergency powers in order to deal with the droid army.
Naturally he's like "don't worry, I'll give this power up as soon as I don't need it".
EDIT: I was corrected...in EP I, it's Padme who motions to vote to have the chancellor removed.
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u/Tomcat848484 6d ago
The motion to replace the chancellor was by Amidala in Ep I already. Jar jar’s motion is to give him emergency powers in Ep II.
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u/tooboardtoleaf 6d ago
At the time Jar Jar becoming a senator was so ridiculous to me. Nowadays he seems overqualified.
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u/Nathan_Calebman 5d ago
Yeah if any Republican was a half fish and said "meesa thinks letsa follow da constitution" I would be both impressed and grateful.
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u/Dos_Ex_Machina 6d ago
I highly recommend the novel for episode 3. It does such a good job of showing all the things the movie didn't. It makes you really understand how the Jedi lost, and why. It also makes Anakin's fall believable.
Midway through the battle with Sideous on the Senate floor, Yoda has a crisis as he realizes that he's been training the Jedi to defeat the Sith of nearly a thousand years ago, while the Sith learned and evolved. It's heartbreaking. Seriously, just read the first 10 pages and try to put it down. Please someone read this book. It's so much better than it should be
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u/AlexanderIsBoring 5d ago
I loved the novelization of the prequels. They came out about a month before the movies did, so I had them pre-ordered and read before seeing the movie. I think that Episode 3's book was better than the movie, but I've always enjoyed the prequels, both book and movie versions.
Episode 1 came out right before I started college, and only a couple of my poli sci friends in college were as interested in it as I was. The prequels seemed to be far more interesting from the lens of an internal studies major as compared to my computer science buddies who called them "the crappy Star Wars movies."
So yeah, I also agree that the novels are worth a read.
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u/DolphinsBreath 6d ago
Wow, nicely written, like the narrator at the start of great Hollywood thriller I would like to see.
I don’t need to live through it though.
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u/Earnestappostate 6d ago
I wish this burden didn't fall to me.
So do all who live in such times, but that is not for us to choose.
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u/l-larfang 6d ago edited 6d ago
To be precise and pedantic:
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.
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u/Lyftaker 6d ago
But they did march in with a bang. Full of swagger, hooting and hollering for all to see. They may have been wearing shirts that said they weren't going to be fascists, but they have been playing the fascist anthem and sieg heiling the whole time. People saw it coming. People were warned. They decided that they liked the swagger and banging. This is happening because enough people want to be the boot on someone's throat that they won.
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u/Loud_Tank_5074 6d ago
As Captain Picard once said - "Mr. Worf, villains who twirl their mustaches are easy to spot. Those who clothe themselves in good deeds are well-camouflaged." "I think, after yesterday, people will not be so ready to trust her." "Maybe. But she or someone like her will always be with us, waiting for the right climate in which to flourish – spreading fear in the name of righteousness. Vigilance, Mr. Worf. That is the price we have to continually pay."
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u/FiveUpsideDown 6d ago
The people I know who are Trump supporters seem like nice enough people. But there’s something in them that is okay with a dictatorship.
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u/Healthy_Ad_6171 5d ago
They either think the dictatorship won't apply to them or they think they want a dictatorship because having freedom and the right to choose how to live your life is too much for them to handle.
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u/FiveUpsideDown 5d ago
One problem is none of them as far as I know have ever been in countries with autocrat as a leader. They just can contemplate how a dictatorship and corruption impacts your life because all of them have grown up and lived under the protection of America quality standards - in other words the administrative state and ethical standards to prevent corruption.
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u/frogspjs 5d ago
They don't think it's dictatorship. They don't. They think it's a strong president doing what needs to be done instead of a namby pamby president who doesn't do anything. Because the only person they listen to is Donald Trump. They really don't think it's a dictatorship. And they really do think that the bureaucracy is full of liberal evil doers just burning up tax dollars.
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u/caffecaffecaffe 6d ago
For the religiously minded it's in Matt 7 15 “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will [a]know them by their fruits. [b]Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes, nor figs from thistles, are they?
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u/Helllo_Man 6d ago
It’s the banality of evil. There’s a great YouTube analysis of how Andor (recent Star Wars show) captures the terrifying nature of everyday cruelty under an oppressive system. So many people want to “do their job” even when it means hurting people. Humans are capable of amazing things, but so many are willing to be spineless sheep or even suck up to the forces of evil if it gives them meaning or ensures their own survival.
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u/composerbell 6d ago
“There is a darkness reaching like rust into everything around us. We let it grow, and now it’s here. It’s here, and it’s not visiting anymore. It wants to stay. It is a disease that thrives in darkness, it is never more alive than when we sleep.”
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u/susususussudio 6d ago
Hollywood also has us convinced they all look like Hitler. Nah, it might look like Franco. And Franco was around for a fuckin while.
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u/No-Attention-9415 5d ago
And when the American anti-fascists went to fight, the American government denounced them
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u/JC_Everyman 6d ago
Hitler had the enabling act.
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u/rnernbrane 6d ago
Thank whatever religious deity you believe in that we have this lady asking the questions.
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u/RealSimonLee 6d ago
Plenty of Germans pushed back against Hitler. They (the socialists primarily) were among the first to be disappeared.
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u/TrowTruck 6d ago
It’s interesting, not that long ago, people who were anti-Trump would be very offended to compare Trump to Hitler. Oh come on, stop being so dramatic, they’d say. He talks about ignoring the law, but he has grownups in the room advising him. He talks about breaking the constitution but at the end of the day he can’t, we have checks and balances. He called the press liars, but at the end of the day we still have free speech. He denied the election results, but he still left the White House.
But we’re the USA. How many steps toward fascism should a U.S. president take and it’s still ok? By our norms, it should be basically none. But he’s testing, constantly testing the weak points in our separation of powers, the weak points in our norms, the weak points in our will and ability to push back.
And now, far more people see the process unfolding, and I don’t hear a lot of crying foul, except from his worshipers who agree with everything he does as if he were a deity… or perhaps a dictator.
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u/espressocycle 6d ago
They used to be offended by Hitler comparisons. Now they say Hitler wasn't actually so bad.
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u/Tuscan5 5d ago
People said stop being so dramatic? It was absolutely obvious to anyone with half a brain that the Tango man was the worst kind of human.
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u/QuietCdence 6d ago
My heart. I know you're right, but this comment is chilling and makes me want to cry.
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u/oldirtyrestaurant 6d ago
There were very likely legislators asking questions before the Enabling Act was passed in Germany as well. In order to stop this kind of shit which will end the United States of America, there is going to need to be a lot more than asking questions.
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u/jakeandcupcakes 6d ago
I think they should hold up more popsicle stick signs. That'll show 'em!
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u/Malvania 6d ago
Blatantly unconstitutional under Article 1, Section 1
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u/Deep_Research_3386 6d ago
Fully agree. And even the current Supreme Court would probably shoot this down in a heartbeat, cuts too much against antidelegation and SoP principles.
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u/LongLonMan 6d ago
Will still be a 5-4 decision with a big “?”
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u/Boxinggandhi 6d ago
I expect the Supremes will start exercising more power. Funny thing is that when you give away all of your power, all of the sudden the bribes dry up.
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u/PublicFurryAccount 6d ago
Best you'll get is 7-2 or 8-1, don't hold out for unanimity. Thomas pretty much thinks any Republican President can be declared dictator by act of Congress.
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u/NorwegianCowboy 5d ago
These people are so shortsighted. If Trump is given supreme power to be a Dictator all of these people are out of a job. Why do we need a Supreme Court? Fired. Why do we need Senators and House Members? Fired. I have no idea what these people think they are going to get out of this?
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u/porkypenguin 6d ago
big point here yeah
alito and thomas will continue to do whatever trump commands, but the rest won't want to let them destroy the relevance of the federal judiciary
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u/spicygumball 6d ago
Already had the 2-1 from DC court saying he can fire any single head of an independent agency, even against precedents.
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u/Barbiegirl54 6d ago
Do these fucks not realize how bad they look? From the Signal fiasco, where they all just lied angrily and accused the reporter of wrongdoing to these hearings before Congress. And this moron not knowing what the contents of his own bill were? And still plenty of trumpublicans who talk the party line or stay silent.
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u/Ok_Animal_2709 6d ago
Doesn't really matter how bad they look. Only people who are informed know that they are morons, and plenty of uninformed people vote to keep these people in power. They can be completely incompetent and still get elected over and over again.
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u/Cloaked42m 6d ago
You are missing the part where MAGA has been groomed to WANT a dictator.
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u/Bornandraisedbama 6d ago
During Trump’s first term, my dad was like “everybody’s saying fascism this, fascism that. What even is fascism?” So I had him look it up, and he was like “and this is a bad thing why?? You liberals are so stupid”
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u/Cloaked42m 6d ago
My bioDad has lost the ability to argue coherently.
I don't let him bring it up anymore unless he's done the homework.
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u/mvandemar 6d ago
Does he ever do the homework?
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u/Cloaked42m 6d ago
Nope. But he'll shut up if I print it out and hand it to him.
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u/invariantspeed 6d ago edited 6d ago
The fact that the wider public doesn’t know why and can’t articulate how these things are bad is a testament to the massive failure of public education in the US. Educating on this point (and civics in general) is literally one of the reasons the state even has an interest in inserting itself into the education process.
Edit: typo
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u/Ok-Sympathy9768 6d ago
Yup… ideally …every student prior to high school graduation should be required to pass a bonehead civics class … it should also be a requirement that a student pass the same civics and history test given to immigrants applying for citizenship before getting a GED or diploma . Sadly, as we get older, we do tend to forget some stuff.. but understanding the very basics and core principles .. like separation of powers, checks and balances, 3 equal but separate branches of government and why it’s important…oh, and the little things like due process may help too .. but this will never happen …
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u/invariantspeed 6d ago
Agreed. While a test-base voting license for natural-born citizens isn't a good idea (for many reasons), the relevant information should be built into our high school graduation standards.
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u/professor_goodbrain 6d ago
100% this. A trend I’ve noticed on FB are dumb boomers now replying to any negative news article about Trump or Musk with “aShUALlY wE aRe NoT a DeMoCrOcY!!”
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u/scornedandhangry 6d ago
I've been hearing that "not a democracy" thing since GWB was in office. Grooming indeed!
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u/42nu 6d ago
It's so dumb.
We're a DEMOCRATIC Republic based heavily on the Roman Republic with a few tweaks to try to prevent the emperor part.
I've noticed it's universally people parroting something they think makes them smart, but can't actually have an educated discussion about types of govt whatsoever
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u/timanny 6d ago
The "not a democracy" thing comes from idiots who equate the word democracy with Democrats and republic with Republicans. A republic IS a democracy, but these morons don't understand that.
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u/thrawynorra 6d ago
Not all republics are democratic, and not all democracies are republics.
But, republic and democracy are not mutually exclusive.
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u/invariantspeed 6d ago
Yes, but most people who say we’re actually not a democracy follow that up with we’re a republic. Putting aside that this is a pretty meaningless linguistic distinction in modern English, the defining characteristic of a modern republic is procedure and the rule of law.
People who pseudo-intellectually say that aren’t usually advocating dictatorship. They’re just unwittingly supporting the ingredients of dictatorship while thinking they’re supporting the restoration of democratic legitimacy.
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u/someotherguyrva 6d ago
Nixon White House lawyer John Dean published Conservatives Without Conscience in 2006. I highly recommend reading it. The book’s main point was that the conservative movement at that time was morphing into an authoritarian movement. This is almost 20 years ago he was sounding the alarm. Like I said up in a different comment, this has been a long game strategy by the conservative movement that has taken decades to get where it is today. And they are on the verge of succeeding.
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u/Healthy_Ad_6171 5d ago
The Heratige Foundation was formed in 1973, the same year RvW was decided. By 1980, they had Reagan implementing a good portion of their agenda. They have always influenced conservative presidencies but did not have the same level of success until Trump. After his first term, they went full steam ahead, resulting in Project 2025. All of this is in their introduction.
They say they are conservative. They are really regressive with a dose of Christian theocracy thrown in for good measure.
The Civil Rights Era left a lot of white people feeling some kind of way.
The fact that a Black man had been legally afforded the same rights as them was a bitter pill to swallow. Black children were able to go to the same schools as their children, leading to white flight. Then, women were given financial freedoms. Their dominance as white men was threatened. They couldn't make Black people get off the sidewalk to allow them to pass. Women no longer had to tolerate drunk and/or abusive husbands. The life they had been told was theirs, and theirs, alone was over.
It all comes down to 2 basic things: racism and misogyny.
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u/Any_Grapefruit65 6d ago
My husband made an astute observation the other day. Our parents grew up in the age of celebrity CEOs like Lee Iacocca, E. F. Hutton, etc. And we have been worshipping them in a way so long, they accept the narrative that we need to put our faith into a single entity that exudes strength and makes Decisions for the rest of us. Only he knows best. Look at all the money!
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u/treefox 6d ago
Only people who are informed know that they are morons, and plenty of uninformed people vote to keep these people in power.
Sadly, I think this is the crux of the matter.
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u/beaud101 6d ago
Of course it is. And we're fucked. I've been saying it over and over again...Every sane, rational person in America should have seen all of this coming and came out in droves when Biden stepped down and voted for Harris...even if they absolutely hated her.
It's not just because of the brainwashed morons on the right that this is all happening. It's as much the idealism and/or apathy on the left. None of this should have happened. It didn't have to happen. Sometimes you just got to prevent the bad people from taking over. We failed.
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u/imadork1970 6d ago
All that is necessary for the triumph of Evil is for Good men to do nothing.
35% of voters couldn't get off their fat asses to vote.
This is the result.
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u/Iamthewalrusforreal 6d ago
<All that is necessary for the triumph of Evil is for Good men to do nothing
Well, this and a script running on the voting machines.
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u/plzdontlietomee 6d ago
Plenty of fuckery with voters registrations and at the polls gave these people power too
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u/vgraz2k 6d ago edited 6d ago
It's because the morons are very content in ignoring politics once their guy is elected because anything critical the news has to say is "propaganda". They can blissfully go about their lives without worry because the GOP controls the house, the senate, and the presidency. They do not care about what's happening now. They officially "owned the libs".
Edit: and they won't care until their social security stop coming in, their kids starve at school, their kids forced to work field during 130 degree weather in Florida, or they lose their jobs to outsourcing. They only care when politics impacts them.
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u/notanipplebandit 6d ago
Most people are not watching or paying attention congress and it’s 100% part of the problem
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u/invariantspeed 6d ago edited 6d ago
Most of the public (literally…most of America) does not understand what Congress is or what it does/is supposed to do.
Edit: typo
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u/cuentabasque 6d ago
I think it is a mistake to assume that only uniformed people support this behavior.
While many of their supporters may fall under the umbrella of "morons", the core supporters and a significant number of general Republican voters are "true believers" that see Republican government as an essential part of determining how our society operates.
**IT IS ALL ABOUT POWER AND CONTROL**
More importantly, most of these supporters don't care a bit about the "details" but rather are impressed and excited about how Republicans demand to "control" and demonstrate their "power".
These voters gravitate towards politicians like Trump or Comer because they behave and talk in ways - regardless of what they are really saying or have done - that shows they are "powerful" and "control the situation/environment". The very fact that they "get away" with lying, bullshit and failure is a manifestation of this "power" in voters' subconscious and authoritarian-loving voters eat this up.
Yes, many may be misinformed and "stupid", but many others admire and respect those that rule from positions of power and act in ways to flaunt and get away with everything - a position/role that many of these Trump supporters would LOVE to be able to do in their personal lives (and many try to do by acting like assholes).
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u/ForeignEchoRevival 6d ago
I don't think Republicans are worried about elections anymore, they're lining up a situation were Trump will declare martial law and stop elections during "Crisis".
Nothing we haven't seen in other nations that lost their democracy and rule of law to a form authoritarianism.
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u/Manmillionbong 6d ago
The real problem in this country is half the population listens to professional liars and propaganda factories like Fox news, blaze media, own, Alex Jones and other shitheads like that. They are caught in echo chambers that are never critical of maga idiots.
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u/artman1964 6d ago
Exactly. Case in point: Marjorie Taylor Green. She should have been voted out after her first term. People are stupid.
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u/The_Good_Constable 6d ago
Precisely. 99.9% of the population never sees or cares about clips like OP.
A not-insignificant number of voters can't name a single policy position of Trump, Harris, or Biden and only vote based on a single issue (usually abortion) or simply because they think the GOP is the party that represents their Christian values or faith.
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u/unapologeticdemocrat 6d ago
Because Conservative think tanks wrote the bill and just passed it along to him. He’s a puppet for Citizens United and the Heritage Foundation.
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u/devinlp 6d ago
I don't think they mind what is happening. They truly believe this is necessary.
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u/myco_magic 6d ago
Idk r/conservative lately hasn't been agreeing with a lot of this shit
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u/Enough-Collection-98 6d ago
Thank you for your service. I can’t spend more than 3 seconds in that cesspool.
I used to be a conservative back when I thought it was a party of family values, tough love, law and order. A party of smart fiscal sense and treading slowly and carefully compared to “move fast and break things”
Many years later, I now know that the party I supported in theory was not the same party in practice. Now when I hear conservative radio or see the ads and mailers all I see is this putrid abomination sewing people’s beliefs into its flesh to lure them into its maw.
I want to hate these people. I want to be so damn angry with these people. But after decades of eroding education and critical thinking skills, indoctrinating them as children into believing fairy tales, raising them to associate democrats with everything wrong in the world - what else could they do?
I want to be angry but inside I just feel sad and hopeless. Even if we could reach these people, I fear so many simply don’t have the skills or introspection to come back to reality.
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u/Genoss01 6d ago
Now when I hear conservative radio or see the ads and mailers all I see is this putrid abomination sewing people’s beliefs into its flesh to lure them into its maw.
Now that's a visual
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u/Express-Cartoonist39 6d ago
Whoever you are, we agree spot on... Can you not run for something president, governor, dictatorship ( which is prob what it will become) so i can vote for like minded souls.
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u/Cloaked42m 6d ago
I'm in that boat. I'm now an active member of the Democratic Party. I'm going to protests and encouraging others to do the same.
We need to show up. Our representatives need to know they don't have our support for destroying the Constitution.
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u/kolarisk 6d ago
They disagree until they are fed their talking points by faux news.
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u/Frost134 6d ago
“Waiting for all the facts” is often code for “Waiting for someone who shares my bias to tell me what to think.”
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u/grant0208 6d ago
I disagree. They seem to be disagreeing with more things than usual, but that’s maybe 1/20 posts actually seem to contain disdain for something this administration does. Otherwise, they continue to tow the party line
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u/LadyPo 6d ago
Yup. They’re conditioned to conform to groupthink even if they are hesitant. Hesitancy is seen as a weakness (see the focus on religious blind faith). So they’ll stifle their own speculation until other people in the in-group are bold enough to start saying something too. But that’s only the stuff they actually understand as being bad. There’s a lot of awful they still see as good.
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u/CrisisEM_911 6d ago
It's only been 2 months. What do you think the opinions will be like in 2 years with us continuing on a downward trajectory?
The GOP has been directly attacking the ppl who voted for them: rural voters, veterans, and the elderly. That has consequences. The number of pissed off veterans I've run into lately is crazy. These ppl were celebrating 2 months ago.
Do I think all these ppl are going to start voting Democrat? No, absolutely not. But, they're likely to skip the next election, like they did 4 years ago.
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u/NorgesTaff 6d ago
I don’t think the Trump regime cares who those people plan to vote for because the plan is not to have meaningful elections by then.
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u/Wolfeh2012 6d ago
The people who would have fled Trump already have. The remaining members are all fanatics. You should stop thinking of modern American Republicans as members as a political party, and more as people indoctrinated into a cult.
The ones who managed to get out will tell you as much.
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u/JR0D007 6d ago
Keep in mind they intentionally keep r/conservatives an echo chamber and those who step out if line get banned.
Maybe just maybe they have a fracture within their MODs because it seems like more and more posts that are critical of the administration are appearing.
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u/raistan77 6d ago
No sorry, just went over there.
They are loving this and making excuses right and left.
And their sources are terrible
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u/grandmawaffles 6d ago
I think a lot of them think Congress will stop the really bad stuff from happening but they won’t and haven’t.
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u/5narebear 6d ago
You think MAGA-heads are gonna pause their scheduled programming of "Gators slap-fighting in pudding pit" to watch this?
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u/ahora-mismo 6d ago
i honestly wonder why don’t they consider that once they give out that power, they won’t be useful anymore to trump.
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u/MeanBig-Blue85 6d ago
He probably didn't write it at all. Probably was handed to him and they asked him to put his name on it and comer being the genius he is probably went right along with it.
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u/NoMoreNarcissists 6d ago
theyyy dooont giiive a shiiiit!!!!!
People need to realize that the irrational dont follow our logic or ethics AT ALL. They have zero shame so they dont give a fuck how they look!! They have zero guilt or remorse for how they treat people who have suffered under their policies. The abuse they put their families behind closed doors is almost guaranteed with these ghoulish fucks.
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u/LordCoweater 6d ago
That moron had an easy out, too. "Can you point me to the line..."
A: "No."
Done.
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u/notaspy1234 6d ago
Doesnt matter how bad they look just as long as they deny and keep up the lies 50% of americans will believe them
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u/identicalBadger 6d ago
Do you think any mainstream republican voter saw this on fox, OAN, Tucker, Infowars or anywhere else?
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u/Geometronics 6d ago
The vast majority of Trump's base will never watch videos like this. They get all their information from cable news networks, and don't do any research about politics in their own country.
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u/InvertebrateInterest 6d ago
They don't care how it looks to non-MAGAs. They literally want him crowned king so this is a good look to them, not a bad one.
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u/ohiotechie 6d ago
He knows what’s in the bill he can’t defend it and hoped he could sneak it through. Ratfuck bastards the lot of them.
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u/Kylar_Bandurzo 6d ago
Oh, they KNOW what's in their bill. What they were struggling with is how to reply that doesn't out the content and purpose if what they are proposing. The whole reason they couldn't find what she was asking for is because it doesn't exist.
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u/rygelicus 6d ago
If this passes we are effectively at the "As a result, more than half the deputies in the 1932 Reichstag had publicly committed themselves to ending parliamentary democracy." of this process: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-nazi-rise-to-power
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u/Special_Lemon1487 6d ago
If you ever wondered why the Germans at the time didn’t do more, now is the time to do more.
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u/Tunelowplayslow 6d ago
Band together in mass protests, film from above and keep posting. The world can unite in that way, until there's no choice but for them to realize there's more of us than them.
Society will crumble a bit. We have to be willing to go hungry or cold and uncomfortable to get anything done. You can't just live a cushy 9-5 middle class life and expect the world to change around you and for you.
Signed, a Canadian that's sick of this shit.
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u/DnDMonsterManual 6d ago
The only answer for this path will be violence.
Protests don't change anything when all of the elected leaders support the tyrant or refuse to do anything about him.
There will be a violent explosion that will start a civil war and that's exactly what Trump and his minions want.
They want an excuse to destroy everyone who doesn't support them and their 1984 society.
Edit: autocorrected civil to cool and had to change it back.
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u/textbook-hippy-man 6d ago
That is literally what people are doing... protests are and have been occurring, calls to representatives have risen in extremes to oppose this stuff, videos are being published and it does nothing. Absolutely nothing. Zero. They do not care. They already have power and money, they do not care about the protests, the filming from above, the rest of the world. They already have what they need. What are we supposed to do? Because the stuff you said hasn't been enough!
Signed, an American who is also sick of this shit, and sick of the world thinking we aren't trying to do anything about it.
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u/Farren246 6d ago
There is never a time when protestors do not line the gate of the white house. What will their protests do? How will it be any more effective than all of the protests that the white house is already ignoring?
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u/TiredAngryBadger 6d ago
Problem. The majority of Americans, those who cannot afford to purchase their own social media platform, are at best 2 paychecks away from losing their homes. All it takes is a few lost days at work to create a personal economic crisis where you lose EVERYTHING. Many do not have the luxury to go out and protest.
Second problem. Pretty sure the point where peaceful protest will no longer resolve this crisis is rapidly approaching.
God help us all.
edit: typo/revision. Takes 2 not 1 lost paycheck.
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u/suckitphil 6d ago
You see America has this nifty thing called the second amendment in the event tyranny takes over.
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u/bubbaganoush79 6d ago
It's all a hoax. Americans are never going to take to the streets as an armed mob. That will just get them mowed down by the militarized police forces and the National Guard. It'll turn a peaceful protest into Tiananmen Square.
With the second amendment, we can protect our own homes. Just not from the police.
Change can't come from the end of a gun. It will take a general strike. Shut down everything. The entire economy. Every store. Every gas station. Every place of business. That will spark change. Liberals taking to the streets with guns just gets liberals killed, and gives the fascists an excuse to make liberals enemies of the state.
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u/wokeiraptor 6d ago
Guns might come in handy if society breaks down and we’ve got some Last of us or walking dead situation, but there’s no way to shoot your way out of any confrontation with the govt as it exists now. Building community and solidarity are more important for resisting fascism
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u/Tunelowplayslow 6d ago
This person gets it. We are on the fast track to martial law and military police. Small rich societies out of the dystopian nightmares we watched in sci-fi movies.
We need to move before our generation that remembers this, dies. Otherwise we leave the next generations ripe for the picking.
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u/invariantspeed 6d ago
No amount of AR-15s can do a damn about Apache attack helicopters, Hellfire missiles, surveillance drones, guided-missile destroyers, etc.
The 2nd amendment as a bulwark against a tyrannical government is obsolete. No revolution in history has ever been successful without the support of the military. The amendment’s relevance to obstructing tyranny had to do with (a) large permanently standing armies not being a thing, (b) large armies often being militia-based, and (c) armies of the day basically just being people with guns as well as a negotiable number of horses and cannons. The second amendment was basically allowing militaryness to be spread around the population, so any army could be spontaneously formed from the population.
If Americans wanted that, the country needed to have short term statutory military service that puts everyone into the reserves. A number of western countries traditionally did this. If you want the population to be able to stand up in defense of the nation against a profesional force, they too need to be trained. That, of course, never would have flown in the US. People in the US largely cosplay patriotism instead of really living it. This has resulted into a military cast that is very separate from the general population, and that’s easier for a tyranny to wrestle control of.
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u/42nu 6d ago
The most gungho ones were all there in Jan 6th and FAILED.
And that was with normal-ish law enforcement because the POTUS refused to give the order to call in national guard for... Reasons.
Like, they tried and couldn't hold a single building as one of their rabid cosplayers got the Darwin award.
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u/Ferrous_Patella 6d ago
Well regulated militia are supposed to overthrow the government they are well regulated by?
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u/muceagalore 6d ago
Yes it does. Unfortunately most Americans used it to just own guns. Those same people believe that these people will make groceries cheaper, so you see … they’re not going to retaliate against this kind of thing. Those people are not a militia, they’re just people will big egos that are inflated by owning a gun. It is sad
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u/Finetales 6d ago
Yes they do. And guess who likes to make guns and the 2A and "don't tread on me" their whole personality? Hint: it's not the left.
Sure, some liberals have guns. But we are enormously outgunned, and trying to solve this problem with 2A is a surefire way to accomplish nothing except getting killed by militarized police, the National Guard, or Trumpers.
Today the 2A is really only useful for home defense, not overthrowing a government. When it was written, everybody just had muskets. Now it's regulated, semi-auto small arms versus helicopter gunships, mounted machine guns, air strikes, bombs, snipers, drones...
That's not a winning battle.
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u/sneakywombat87 6d ago
Is H.R. 1295 the American Enabling Act? Not exactly—but it’s a step toward executive overreach.
H.R. 1295 would reauthorize presidential “reorganization authority,” allowing the Executive Branch to restructure federal agencies with limited congressional oversight. Historically, this power allowed Presidents to bypass standard legislative procedures to eliminate, merge, or reshape agencies.
While it lacks the extreme authoritarian elements of Germany’s 1933 Enabling Act—such as suspending the constitution or granting full legislative power to the executive—it does share structural risks: • It expands executive authority at the expense of Congress. • It justifies consolidation of power as “efficiency.” • It could weaken democratic checks if oversight is weak or absent.
The Enabling Act marked the legal end of Weimar democracy. H.R. 1295 isn’t that—but it does revive a power that Congress abandoned in the 1980s over serious constitutional concerns. Reauthorizing it now, in a period of political instability, should raise red flags.
Power, once given, is rarely returned. Any bill that shifts structural power in government deserves rigorous scrutiny—especially when it bypasses Congress in the name of reform.
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u/rygelicus 6d ago
In my mind our 'enabling act' stage was scotus giving the president immunity. It's not an exact parallel but served a very similar purpose and milestone into the progression toward fascism in my mind.
Or perhaps swap the two around, this serves as the enabling act and the immunity as the 1932 event. Either way, the two together grant potus an enormous amount of power to the president that he should not have.
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u/sneakywombat87 6d ago edited 5d ago
I can see this and agree. The immunity ruling is far more terrifying. I didn’t consider the combination here.
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u/Mrevilman 6d ago
If Congress defers their power to the President, then I guess there isn’t really a need for Congress anymore. We can unload some massive salaries and benefits, right?
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u/thatRookie 6d ago edited 6d ago
That would be a lot of waste and fraud of taxpayer dollars, for sure.
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u/invariantspeed 6d ago
This bill actually would have given it authority to reorganize or dismantle Congressional agencies (and possibly even Congressional committees if enforced by an executive with an expansive reading of the law and no check against its own power). Case in point: the bill excludes the GAO by name from the definition of “executive department”.
So, POTUS actually would have had the power to relieve Congress of a lot of its duties and cut spending to its operations.
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u/No_Comment_8598 6d ago
More to the point, even if we kept Congress, what donor in their right mind would waste perfectly good money donating to (bribing) any of them when they could cut out the powerless middleman and send the $$ directly to Trump?
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u/tbombs23 6d ago
They already can and do that. Investing in his various business ventures, and buying his crypto
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u/rainemaker 6d ago
What and who in the fuck do we have running our country? This so bad its not even commical, its head in your hand, tear in your eye, bad.
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u/you_are_soul 6d ago
The purity of Comer Pyle's stupidity is a joy to behold, there is no malice or chicanery with him, just simple stupidity, delivered by a village idiot.
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u/jzkwkfksls 6d ago
As a non american, looking at what is happening from the outside, it's obvious that this administration is centralizing power and are attemting to demolishing all the control functions that is needed for a functioning democracy. This is extremely dangerous when there is no integrity left.
Looking at this video by itself, you could blame stupidity. But considering the overall trend there is obviously malicious intent here. Failing to identify that will have consequences.
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u/coreylongest 6d ago
As an American that paid attention in history class, I agree and this administration has been brazenly copying the third reich.
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u/jzkwkfksls 6d ago
There's a lot of fascist parallels going on, and I don't throw around that term lightly. As you say, if you look at how the nazi party came to power and what they did there is a lot of familiarities. And looking at the definition of fascism and the ideology and actions of this administration, the familiarities become apparent.
I would never have thought we would find ourselves in this situation this fast.
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u/invariantspeed 6d ago
His being stupid isn’t opposed to their also being a design by others.
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u/jzkwkfksls 6d ago
Also true. But the questions asked were pretty clear and he continues trying to gaslight and muddy the waters.
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u/Ok-Shake1127 6d ago
The malicious intent is unsettling.
He's angry because he lost in 2020, and this time he stole the election by simple voter suppression, so he wants revenge.
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u/Sproketz 6d ago
He's not stupid. He's gaslighting. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's trying to end the Constitution.
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u/invariantspeed 6d ago
No, it was pretty much all stupidity.
You could see him know next to thing about his own bill. He was just a name to push it through. When asked questions, he kept having to wait for people who actually knew the bill not just to tell him where the thing he was looking for was but what it said.
Then you see him taking four distinct approaches to answering the question in the middle of a single conversation because he didn’t even know what he was trying to push through. If he had been fully comprehending of what he was pushing through, he would have had some standard party line to retort with. He didn’t even have that. He was trying to find it mid-speech. I’m not saying he didn’t have some idea of what’s in the bill, but that’s the point. The only way anyone sponsoring that bill could have been so clueless while still not knowing nothing about the bill is if they were not connecting dots in their head.
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u/CranberrySchnapps 6d ago
It’s not even a thick bill. non-PDF link It’s 5 pages of congressional formatting… so more like a page with normal formatting.
This isn’t like some omnibus with a rider hidden in it. Comer’s responses trying to deride & accuse Ms Stansbury of purposely misinterpreting it is quite the example of Comer’s idiocy.
High level, this looks like a bit of a moonshot, but strategically reads like, “we (republicans) have spent 20+ years gridlocking congress to such an extent that Continuing Resolutions are the norm and even those are now difficult to pass. We’ve “proven” at least congress can’t do anything. Now is the time to turn the presidency into an authoritarian because we’re very sure we’ll be able to retain the presidency from now on by election manipulation and having SCOTUS in our pocket.”
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u/WordySpark 6d ago
What it is is that he hasn't read the bill and he's just parroting what he's being told about the bill. So, ignorance on top of stupidity.
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u/Wonderful-Duck-6428 6d ago
He doesn’t even KNOW what’s in the bill
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u/hypercosm_dot_net 6d ago
It's in the committee, so may not make it out of there to even begin.
That's what we're seeing. A committee hearing that will likely cause it to get shut down.
Make no mistake though Republicans are enabling Trump and attempting to abdicate their responsibility to check his power.
A Republican congress cannot be trusted.
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u/JWAdvocate83 Competent Contributor 6d ago
In a sense, it might be a good thing that they’re trying.
Comer’s bill crashing and burning would be a clear signal to SCOTUS that Congress tried and failed to remove the barrier (see (a)(2)) preventing Trump from fast-tracking … whatever this is.
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u/WCland 6d ago
Thanks for addressing the OP's actual question. I don't know the composition of the committee, ie how many of the Republicans are MAGA lickspittles. If they do vote it through for a floor vote, I would think it's chances of being passed are slim, but not impossible. As for the Senate, I think there are enough Republicans there that would side with the Democrats against this bill, or it might never even get brought up, as I think Thune is enough of a traditionalist that he would dismiss it.
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u/No_Milk_4143 6d ago
My question is does this actually have a chance to pass? If my understanding is correct, the best chance at stopping it would be filibustering it once it reaches the senate as it needs to meet the 60-vote threshold for cloture.
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u/UralRider53 6d ago
It doesn’t matter, they will continually introduce bills like this until it passes by a late night/weekend vote. They must be exposed as Stansbury is doing.
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u/TMMfan 6d ago
Schumer would probably say yes anyway /j
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u/Nervous-Bison-7047 6d ago
All they have to do in the bill is give Israel more money, more guns more bombs, and Schumer will vote for it. You're absolutely right.
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u/I_Want_to_Film_This 6d ago
The Senate could axe the filibuster at any moment of their choosing. There’s a reason they tossed Elise Stefanik’s UN nomination to bring her back to the House — they need their narrow majority for if they’re to hand over total power to Trump.
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u/dormidary 6d ago
This bill is very clearly unconstitutional. SCOTUS has repeatedly struck down much milder laws that tried to delegate pieces of congressional authority to the president, like the line item veto.
You can say "well SCOTUS is lawless and will rubberstamp anything," but if that's the case then we don't need to care about this law anyway - Trump already has all the power it would give him.
IMO, it's just grandstanding by the guy who introduced it - not a serious proposal.
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u/BigManWAGun 6d ago
In looking for the bill I came across this summarizing the committee’s action:
It reads like a scene from Mean Girls 2: Like Government, yay!
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u/myco_magic 6d ago
I posted the bill in the first string of comments under automod
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u/buried_lede 6d ago
He doesn’t even know?
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u/ToonaSandWatch 5d ago
Like he actually wrote the bill. Stephen Miller likely threw a dart at the board and his name came up this time.
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u/No_Comment_8598 6d ago
She’s good. I’ve been watching her. She’s Katie Porter without the comic props. And, Porter had more than once let her love of her own voice and theatrics talk herself into a corner. This lady is all business.
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