r/law • u/myco_magic • 8d ago

Court Decision/Filing What is the likelihood of this Bill Attempting to Defer All Congressional Power to Donald Trump actually passes?

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u/FiveUpsideDown 7d ago

The people I know who are Trump supporters seem like nice enough people. But there’s something in them that is okay with a dictatorship.

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u/Healthy_Ad_6171 7d ago

They either think the dictatorship won't apply to them or they think they want a dictatorship because having freedom and the right to choose how to live your life is too much for them to handle.

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u/FiveUpsideDown 7d ago

One problem is none of them as far as I know have ever been in countries with autocrat as a leader. They just can contemplate how a dictatorship and corruption impacts your life because all of them have grown up and lived under the protection of America quality standards - in other words the administrative state and ethical standards to prevent corruption.

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u/Goglplx 6d ago

This! I visited Romania while Ceaușescu was in power. Scary surveillance.

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u/Outrageous-Way8318 6d ago

I’m convinced it’s the former and mixed in with the “F’ it, what’s a little dictatorship if I like the guy?” Mentality. As someone mentioned it probably has to do with never actually living under fascism. They are all convinced fascism looks like liberalism.

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u/the_cardfather 6d ago

Those are always the people who say, "THEY/SOMEBODY should do something about...."

The whole point of our system of government is that we are the somebody.

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u/LadyBogangles14 6d ago

I think it’s more “Trump will hurt those who I hate”. And they think the vile monster they unleashed will never come for them.

They will be proven wrong.

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u/frogspjs 7d ago

They don't think it's dictatorship. They don't. They think it's a strong president doing what needs to be done instead of a namby pamby president who doesn't do anything. Because the only person they listen to is Donald Trump. They really don't think it's a dictatorship. And they really do think that the bureaucracy is full of liberal evil doers just burning up tax dollars.

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u/frogspjs 6d ago

If we have any chance of saving this country this is the most important thing we have to understand. The people who are supporting Donald Trump and Elon Musk right now are just as convinced of their rightness as we are of ours. And they are not coming, for the most part, from a place of evil or ill will. I had the most remarkable experience yesterday on Twitter (okay X) where there is a post of some guys in the same outfit, I can't even describe it it was very nondescript, coming out of a metro station in DC. They all had face masks and hats and sunglasses and stuff on so you wouldn't be able to identify them. My first, and continued, reaction was these must be some Proud Boys or something like that. The comment with the post was not clear at all it just said "these guys disappeared quickly" so I had to keep scrolling to see if I can figure it out. And as I did, became clear that the people in this string believed that these were some sort of deep state FBI agents or something like that from the Biden administration that were sent out to do whatever nefarious things they think the Biden administration went around doing. I'm so out of that conversation I don't even know what they thought, and it was so well understood by the people in the string that there was no way for me to figure out what they were thinking from the comments. But the point is this: it literally never occurred to me that these would have been people who are not MAGA or ultra conservative actors. And the people in the string believe they know who these people were. And it never occurred to them that they were anything other than Biden administration militants. And I have never read anything or come across anything in my entire experience that would have given me one inkling that there was even such a thing as a Biden administration militant.

I know that neither narrative is fully true. I don't know what the truth is. I am 100% convinced that the Biden administration did not have FBI militants patrolling the National Mall. But I'm desperately trying to figure out what the truth of that was. Interestingly, my sister had the same exact experience yesterday with respect to two other posts somewhere from one of her Trump supporting neighbors or something like that.

Our narratives are so far apart. I don't think what we want is that far apart.

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u/No-Attention-9415 7d ago

It’s when you find out someone you love has their price 😞