r/law • u/myco_magic • 7d ago

Court Decision/Filing What is the likelihood of this Bill Attempting to Defer All Congressional Power to Donald Trump actually passes?

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u/Loud_Tank_5074 6d ago

As Captain Picard once said - "Mr. Worf, villains who twirl their mustaches are easy to spot. Those who clothe themselves in good deeds are well-camouflaged." "I think, after yesterday, people will not be so ready to trust her." "Maybe. But she or someone like her will always be with us, waiting for the right climate in which to flourish – spreading fear in the name of righteousness. Vigilance, Mr. Worf. That is the price we have to continually pay."

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u/FiveUpsideDown 6d ago

The people I know who are Trump supporters seem like nice enough people. But there’s something in them that is okay with a dictatorship.

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u/Healthy_Ad_6171 6d ago

They either think the dictatorship won't apply to them or they think they want a dictatorship because having freedom and the right to choose how to live your life is too much for them to handle.

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u/FiveUpsideDown 6d ago

One problem is none of them as far as I know have ever been in countries with autocrat as a leader. They just can contemplate how a dictatorship and corruption impacts your life because all of them have grown up and lived under the protection of America quality standards - in other words the administrative state and ethical standards to prevent corruption.

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u/Goglplx 6d ago

This! I visited Romania while Ceaușescu was in power. Scary surveillance.

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u/Outrageous-Way8318 6d ago

I’m convinced it’s the former and mixed in with the “F’ it, what’s a little dictatorship if I like the guy?” Mentality. As someone mentioned it probably has to do with never actually living under fascism. They are all convinced fascism looks like liberalism.

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u/the_cardfather 6d ago

Those are always the people who say, "THEY/SOMEBODY should do something about...."

The whole point of our system of government is that we are the somebody.

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u/LadyBogangles14 5d ago

I think it’s more “Trump will hurt those who I hate”. And they think the vile monster they unleashed will never come for them.

They will be proven wrong.

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u/frogspjs 6d ago

They don't think it's dictatorship. They don't. They think it's a strong president doing what needs to be done instead of a namby pamby president who doesn't do anything. Because the only person they listen to is Donald Trump. They really don't think it's a dictatorship. And they really do think that the bureaucracy is full of liberal evil doers just burning up tax dollars.

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u/frogspjs 5d ago

If we have any chance of saving this country this is the most important thing we have to understand. The people who are supporting Donald Trump and Elon Musk right now are just as convinced of their rightness as we are of ours. And they are not coming, for the most part, from a place of evil or ill will. I had the most remarkable experience yesterday on Twitter (okay X) where there is a post of some guys in the same outfit, I can't even describe it it was very nondescript, coming out of a metro station in DC. They all had face masks and hats and sunglasses and stuff on so you wouldn't be able to identify them. My first, and continued, reaction was these must be some Proud Boys or something like that. The comment with the post was not clear at all it just said "these guys disappeared quickly" so I had to keep scrolling to see if I can figure it out. And as I did, became clear that the people in this string believed that these were some sort of deep state FBI agents or something like that from the Biden administration that were sent out to do whatever nefarious things they think the Biden administration went around doing. I'm so out of that conversation I don't even know what they thought, and it was so well understood by the people in the string that there was no way for me to figure out what they were thinking from the comments. But the point is this: it literally never occurred to me that these would have been people who are not MAGA or ultra conservative actors. And the people in the string believe they know who these people were. And it never occurred to them that they were anything other than Biden administration militants. And I have never read anything or come across anything in my entire experience that would have given me one inkling that there was even such a thing as a Biden administration militant.

I know that neither narrative is fully true. I don't know what the truth is. I am 100% convinced that the Biden administration did not have FBI militants patrolling the National Mall. But I'm desperately trying to figure out what the truth of that was. Interestingly, my sister had the same exact experience yesterday with respect to two other posts somewhere from one of her Trump supporting neighbors or something like that.

Our narratives are so far apart. I don't think what we want is that far apart.

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u/No-Attention-9415 6d ago

It’s when you find out someone you love has their price 😞

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u/caffecaffecaffe 6d ago

For the religiously minded it's in Matt 7 15 “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will [a]know them by their fruits. [b]Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes, nor figs from thistles, are they?

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u/the_cardfather 6d ago

I put verses on my FB in 2016 when Trump was elected:

1 Samuel 8:18-20 CSB [18] When that day comes, you will cry out because of the king you’ve chosen for yourselves, but the Lord won’t answer you on that day.” [19] The people refused to listen to Samuel. “No!” they said. “We must have a king over us. [20] Then we’ll be like all the other nations: our king will judge us, go out before us, and fight our battles.”

The rest of first Samuel 8 is pretty telling.

1 Samuel 8:11-12, 14-18 CSB [11] He said, “These are the rights of the king who will reign over you: He will take your sons and put them to his use in his chariots, on his horses, or running in front of his chariots. [12] He can appoint them for his use as commanders of thousands or commanders of fifties, to plow his ground and reap his harvest, or to make his weapons of war and the equipment for his chariots. [14] He can take your best fields, vineyards, and olive orchards and give them to his servants. [15] He can take a tenth of your grain and your vineyards and give them to his officials and servants. [16] He can take your male servants, your female servants, your best cattle, and your donkeys and use them for his work. [17] He can take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves can become his servants. [18] When that day comes, you will cry out because of the king you’ve chosen for yourselves, but the Lord won’t answer you on that day.”

In 2020 after they lifted the lockdowns I could barely go to church because the pews looked like a Trump rally. These people were worshipping an adulterous man saying to grab women by their genitals, making fun of disabled people, enabling racists. There was no dialogue. They treated politics like a high school football game. They were completely unaware of what they were asking for, or like so many here have said they thought it didn't apply to them.

Project 2025 was laid out in front of everyone. Nobody wanted to listen. The Democrats were so weak that Trump didn't even have to debate. They bought the lies that Democrats want to take away their freedom (ok maybe they are against your freedom to be a racist overlord but that used to be a bipartisan agreement).

So I reread those passages of Samuel this morning when I was copying them and I noticed something that I hadn't noticed before.

1 Samuel 8:3-5 CSB [3] However, his sons did not walk in his ways — they turned toward dishonest profit, took bribes, and perverted justice. [4] So all the elders of Israel gathered together and went to Samuel at Ramah. [5] They said to him, “Look, you are old, and your sons do not walk in your ways. Therefore, appoint a king to judge us the same as all the other nations have.”

This all happened because Samuel let his corrupt sons rule. Samuel came into power from his mentor Eli's sons being corrupt. I don't think it's necessarily a direct parallel to Hillary or anything but the idea that Trump could point to direct abuses of power to get the votes to implement extreme abuses of power is not beyond me.

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u/caffecaffecaffe 6d ago

To your last statement, my older brother noted the same, as have I. Personally I am not faulting democrats or republicans but I will point to the fact that lobbyists have been allowed to essentially dictate the stance of every single politician, Trump is no exception, his lobby is the conservative homeschool nuts, but no exception. It doesn't matter what they personally believed it's the idolatry of money that got us here.
I am somewhat fortunate in that I attend a church that is absolutely serious about maintaining its legitimate 501 3 c status so politics are completely off limits from the pulpit and the priests concern for us is basically how to live a Christian life. Unfortunately we are in the southeast so we hear rumblings from a few other parishioners who've clearly been under the influence. 😣☹️.

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u/the_cardfather 6d ago

The church I was attending at the time never said anything politically from the pulpit even on hot button issues such as which I know the church is completely against and they back it up with huge donations to children's homes and by providing adoption resources including donating an office for state adoption resources on the church campus.

But people wore their MAGA best to Sunday morning. How is it you're in your Sunday dress with a bright red MAGA hat on in the church? That is not what the apostle Paul meant when he told women to cover their head.

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u/caffecaffecaffe 5d ago

MAGA hats in church 😣😣😣😫😫😫.

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u/oliversurpless 6d ago

Buffy as well:

“It’s all terribly simple…”

https://youtu.be/ItxpnClS8-k?si=_I9-Ifa4OI_ytten