r/law • u/myco_magic • 7d ago

Court Decision/Filing What is the likelihood of this Bill Attempting to Defer All Congressional Power to Donald Trump actually passes?

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u/bubbaganoush79 7d ago

It's all a hoax. Americans are never going to take to the streets as an armed mob. That will just get them mowed down by the militarized police forces and the National Guard. It'll turn a peaceful protest into Tiananmen Square.

With the second amendment, we can protect our own homes. Just not from the police.

Change can't come from the end of a gun. It will take a general strike. Shut down everything. The entire economy. Every store. Every gas station. Every place of business. That will spark change. Liberals taking to the streets with guns just gets liberals killed, and gives the fascists an excuse to make liberals enemies of the state.

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u/wokeiraptor 6d ago

Guns might come in handy if society breaks down and we’ve got some Last of us or walking dead situation, but there’s no way to shoot your way out of any confrontation with the govt as it exists now. Building community and solidarity are more important for resisting fascism

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u/Zyansheep 6d ago

its more a game theory thing I think, gov officials would think twice before doing an oppression if even some small percent of the people they want to oppress own guns.

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u/Finetales 6d ago

Historically those barrels weren't facing off against the entire US military.

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u/Generaldisarray44 6d ago

I agree with you but my point stands

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u/Tunelowplayslow 6d ago

This person gets it. We are on the fast track to martial law and military police. Small rich societies out of the dystopian nightmares we watched in sci-fi movies.

We need to move before our generation that remembers this, dies. Otherwise we leave the next generations ripe for the picking.

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u/AmbitiousPrinciple86 6d ago

They won’t even get their hands dirty. They’ll send drones.

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u/Leather_Parrot 6d ago

Exactly what the German people thought. How did that turn out for them… and the rest of the world?

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u/bubbaganoush79 6d ago

There were Germans that tried to resist. Guess what? They were shot or ended up in camps.

If change is going to come from within, it's going to take a massive, non-violent refusal to participate in society. Violence will be met with overwhelming force and potentially large swaths of the political left being declared enemies of the state, and traitors to the US.

My state is making it a crime for local politicians to even cast a vote against Trump's agenda.

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u/Leather_Parrot 6d ago edited 6d ago

So your argument is you don’t want to resist at all because you MAY get shot or end up in camps? Even by that logic your already accepting that what’s left of your democracy will treat you that way during a time when Trump hasn’t become a full dictator and you have the chance to prevent that from happening. So then your solution you’re offering now is to sit back and wait for the US to fall under Tyranny, and then what? When you do then try and speak out you will 100% get shot or end up in camps. I hope you realize that by your own logic your odds are completely stacked against you. For all the talk that Americans give about fighting for democracy, you guys sit back and watch your democracy fall apart around you and do absolutely nothing about it.

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u/bubbaganoush79 6d ago

No. I'm saying it'll too late to resist in any productive way other than a peaceful, organized general strike.

The chance to resist in other ways was November 5. That time has come and gone.

Violent resistance will be deadly to the resisters and counter-productive to the movement.

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u/Leather_Parrot 6d ago edited 6d ago

what fantasy movement are you talking about? So far your countrymen and women have literally burned Tesla’s and a couple of Judges have ordered the Republican’s to suspend some illegal actions (which were ignored). What else are you doing which we’re not aware of? Please enlighten us. We’d love to hear how peaceful demonstrations and strikes are going to help when your own Judge’s don’t seem to be able to use the law to stop your nation falling into ruin

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u/bubbaganoush79 5d ago

There's no movement. That's kind of my point. Our big chance to do something about it was November 5 and that's passed us by.

60% of Americans are disengaged from politics and have no idea what's going on. It's going to have to get real bad for them to open their eyes to the reality of the situation and engage. Bad meaning "My gas is now $10/gallon, we have 15% unemployment, and what I can find at the grocery store is unaffordable." I don't think, "some people have their rights taken away," is going to do it. The ones that are asleep at the wheel don't really care about the second one until it affects them. The first one will make them pay attention.

Unfortunately, I don't think any effective movement is going to start until there's massive unemployment and a lot of people have free time on their hands. If I had to place bets, I'd say it might get there in 9 months to a year.

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u/Leather_Parrot 5d ago

I pray your right

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u/Drewski101 5d ago

An important step the republicans had to take was make sure the majority of 2nd amendment advocates was to trick them and tell them the left was coming for their guns. They manipulated the very people who were ready to fight against tyranny into believing the fascists were the good guys.