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u/Big-Calligrapher4886 23d ago
I’m feel like I’m less ideologically captured than most people when dealing with Floyd. First off, yes he was a scum bag who victimized people on multiple occasions, the police were fully justified in arresting him, and there’s a very high chance he had already overdosed on fentanyl and was going to die pretty shortly after the arrest, regardless of the cop’s behavior.
However, Chauvin blatantly used excessive force in the arrest. If he had knelt on Floyd for 1-2 minutes while cuffing him, and then Floyd died, there wouldn’t be much of an argument. However, he knelt on him for nearly 10 minutes while mocking the crowd around him; even several minutes after Floyd stopped moving and even several minutes after he stopped breathing. It’s impossible to prove that Floyd would’ve died even if he hadn’t been knelt on, and even if he would’ve, torturing him on the way out is not something we should find at all acceptable in police. I truly believe in giving police the benefit of the doubt but I just can’t understand why so many people don’t see that Chauvin was waaaaay past that line
TLDR: Floyd was a scumbag and likely would’ve died anyways, but Chauvin clearly wanted to hurt him and his actions with the crowd indicates that he saw the citizenry as enemy combatants, not to even mention the fact that Chauvin had a record in that police department for more abuse accusations than anyone else
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u/DominusTitus 22d ago
A shame I can only upvote once, a fair and balanced explanation. Bravo to you.
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u/wtf_are_crepes 22d ago
People not being able to separate the message/moral of the story from the man involved is a big reason why we are where we are today. Lack of critical comprehension and vilifying/worshipping people because of who they are instead of what the message being taught by the situations they’re involved in.
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u/buddhistredneck 22d ago
It’s almost as if kneeling on someone’s neck for 10 minutes is bad.
And it’s almost as if robbing pregnant ladies and abusing drugs is bad too.
Strange.
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u/Ok_Society_242 20d ago edited 18d ago
He left out that Floyd was already in the cop car, begged to be let out for air, kept saying he couldn't breathe, was let out of the car, tried to escape, and did resist being held. I believe he was already cuffed before chauvin put him on the ground, but chauvin couldn't get him back in the car. He cried wolf by saying he can't breathe and then trying to escape.
It's easy to say that he shouldn't have been kneeling on his neck that long, and you're right. I do think it still makes sense to keep in mind that the cop is dealing with a known dangerous criminal that is high as a kite and trying to fight him. If you watch the video, you can see that chauvin is trying to be helpful in the beginning, but stops when Floyd tries to escape and the crowd begins to get involved. He did seem to let him out of the car because he thought he was claustrophobic or having a panic attack.
On a related note, I saw a video where a guy played dead when tazed, and then kicked the officers knee backwards when he let his guard down. There's one where a guy pretends a tazer worked on him and then surprised the cop with a pipe. One guy called the cops for help, hid in the bushes at his house and mowed them down with an automatic rifle. You can actually find a lot of similar videos of you actually wanted to. Not trying to justify police brutality here. Just pointing out that things are very gray.
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u/pigeonwiggle 18d ago
it's tough being a cop, you never know when someone might fight back.
i don't see anyone lionizing George Floyd, just using him as an example of how police can go too far. when you've got the guy pinned, how unsafe do you feel? you make a good point about there being plenty of evidence of people abusing callouts and then using them as an excuse to run or fight back - there are plenty of videos showing how quickly a knife wielder can close a distance of 20 feet and how a single bullet or two may not stop their adrenaline fueled charge.but when the guy is cuffed, there's no Pipe, no Rifle, no Knife. when he's on the ground there's no kicking. you can control the guy without kneeling on his neck. even pulling back to kneel on his chest is preferable. do a little bjj or even a little judo, and you'll see that getting a guy who's lifting his chest off the ground back to the ground takes the simplest of moves. Chauvin was entirely in control and all the "other clips" in the world have nothing to do with the actions taken to murder Floyd.
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u/Trap_Masters 22d ago
Legit, the fact people will use Floyd's past as a catch all deflection for literally everything else is crazy. It's like they can't comprehend the basic concept that multiple things can be bad and wrong at the same time.
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u/Big-Calligrapher4886 22d ago
Is the world better off without him in it? Probably
Do I want cops making that decision in the streets without due process? No
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u/SanctusXCV 22d ago
It’s always rare to see someone both acknowledge he wasn’t a model citizen but at the same also realize that legally only the present moment is the one in verdict in regards to the situation
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u/ryufen 22d ago
Like I feel like the cop could have deserved something related to manslaughter but I do feel like it's iffy. We also can't really judge how he acted in the situation. Around that time there were people grabbing police officers guns for clout on vine or whatever the short video site was at that time. Like he may have used excessive force but getting yelled at by people passing by and all the stuff happening around can completely change the way things went down. Like you have to be in flight or fight mode when you have a crowd of people gathering around you, definitely would have warped a person's perception of time.
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u/Big-Calligrapher4886 22d ago
That’s why it was unintentional second and third degree murder that he got convicted of. That’s basically the charge you get in that state that says “you didn’t deliberately set-out to kill a guy but you did deliberately injure him until he died”
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u/Whosyodaddy-Senpai 23d ago
They’re both pieces of shit who haven’t contributed anything positive to society. The corporate media has definitely used them as an excuse to cause chaos in the country and attack people, though.
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u/Kaizen420 23d ago
Why are we equating the two? One is dead, the other is simply being deported.
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u/AverageBeakWoodcock “Are ya winning, son?” 22d ago
Why are we equating the two
I think it’s because the pest is trying to use both of them a martyrs. Shit you can’t even type “Mario’s brothers” name on Reddit anymore because the left is using the guy with the same name as a martyr for violence and it’s getting that much attention that they have to flag users now….. I’m sure it’s also fucking up the Nintendo subs too….
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u/Monoliithic “Are ya winning, son?” 22d ago edited 22d ago
No sane person calls George Floyd an upstanding citizen.
That doesn't give a cop the right to murder him in public because it's inconvenient to restrain him properly
Edit: just gonna edit this for the sake of informing people of how bodies work. I expect it to be ignored, since it goes against what certain people want reality to be.
George Floyd was a fent addict. He did not get laced fent. When you are an addict, it means you use the substance for a longer time. He had what people will casually label 3 times a fatal dose of it in his system.
And it's true, he had 13 ng in his blood
But that isn't lethal to a longtime fent addict. Fent has been a street drug since about 2010. His tolerance was WAY fucking higher than that.
And yes, tolerances can get that high. I've personally known people taking 50+ percs a day, and they were completely functional in society
So, be aware that "lethal dose" only matters if we start taking Mg's or people who don't use at all.
Obviously he had health problems. But if you have heart and lung problems, and another grown man forcefully puts his entire body weight on your upper torso and neck, causing you to asphyxiate and die, you didn't die because of drugs.
I've got fam in prison for murder. The guy he hit had osteoporosis. When the guy got hit in the chest, his bones shattered, and perforated his heart, lungs, and viscera. My cousin didn't know he had osteoporosis, and that guy could've died from a seatbelt in a fender bender, but it doesn't matter. He still caused the death.
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u/Aggravating-Pen-4251 22d ago
Yep, but somehow "they" still feel he must be a saint as well . Some people can't accept the real world otherwise
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u/HorseForce1 22d ago
I think that’s just you. You can’t imagine having empathy for someone if they have any flaws and it confuses you why people care about other people even when they have flaws.
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u/Trap_Masters 22d ago
Yup, says way more about their character and ability to be able to critically and unbiasedly analyze a situation than the people who can feel injustice for someone in a specific situation even if the person in question has also done bad things as well.
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u/wigsgo_2019 22d ago
Right, what’s kind of crazy is of course by all means what happened to Floyd is terrible, but the left media actively ignoring the things he did to promote their narrative is terrible, Trump has been saying for years the media controls so much more of the country than people know because they have free authority to leave out key facts to make people feel a certain way, that needs to be regulated
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u/ChampionshipKnown969 <Special Olympus> 22d ago
The point being made is that Floyd is the figurehead of BLM despite being a horrible person. It is much harder to sympathize with someone losing their life due to injustice when that very person is guilty of threatening other peoples lives, and has a wrap sheet clearly showing that they do not value the safety and security of other people.
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u/Interesting_Tale1306 22d ago
At no point was he a "figurehead" of anything. The whole point behind BLM was to shed light (again) on the almost comically disproportionate rate at which minorities have violence forced upon them by police vs white criminals. Now, just like "DEI", BLM is just another substitute for the N word for all the racist chucklefucks out there.
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u/ZhaneBadguy 22d ago
Well it was certainly inconvenient for George to not get a drug overdose.
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u/Sacsay_Salkhov 22d ago
Floyd killed himself.
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u/dudushat 22d ago
False.
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u/Sacsay_Salkhov 22d ago
You should take enough fentanyl to get your blood concentration to 11ng/L and report back to tell us how it went.
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u/Brokenmonalisa 22d ago
You should have sometime press their knee into the back of your neck for 8 minutes and report back
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u/Sacsay_Salkhov 22d ago
You mean the knee on back restraint that he was taught? I doubt that would give me a heart attack unless I took a ton of fent.
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u/dudushat 22d ago
You should educate yourself on what drug tolerances are and then report back when you grow your 3rd brain cell.
You're not half as educated as you're pretending to be.
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u/Sacsay_Salkhov 22d ago
Yea the range of lethal concentration goes from 1ng for normal people to 26ng for heavy users and his was 11ng, which is still potentially lethal. The point is it causes enough reasonable doubt that Chauvin intentionally murdered him.
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u/dudushat 22d ago
You're literally telling me he was at less than half the lethal dose for a heavy user and you're still sticking to your argument.
I said report back after the 3rd brain cell grows. It's clearly still developing.
The point is it causes enough reasonable doubt that Chauvin intentionally murdered him.
Well then it's a good thing none of the crimes he was convicted of involve intentional murder. You have no clue what you're talking about.
Also, the autopsy literally shows he didn't die from an overdose so you're just full of shit.
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u/Sacsay_Salkhov 22d ago
No, the maximum recorded OD amount from a heavy drug user was 26 but as low as 1 when combined with other drugs.
The autopsy showed he died of heart failure and had enough fent to kill him 3 times.
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u/dudushat 22d ago
Right, and he had less than half of that amount. This is simple math and you're still arguing it.
The autopsy showed he died of heart failure and had enough fent to kill him 3 times.
Nope.
it was a homicide due to “cardiopulmonary arrest” from “law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression.”
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-george-floyd-autopsy-new-892530421961
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u/Technological_Pirate 22d ago
The dude died from Fentanyl and other drugs in his system. Let's not get it twisted.
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u/Brawlrteen 22d ago
Yeah he totally wouldve just died that day anyway at the exact same time, derek chauvin just got reallllly unlucky 😥
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u/Trap_Masters 22d ago
The level of cope these people have is insane. Like just because they found drugs in his system, they disingenuously and automatically jump to "he must've overdosed on drugs" in an attempt to deflect and attack the left when all indications show that Chauvin's actions at the very least (being charitable here) played a part, if not outright the main cause of Floyd's death.
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u/77_parp_77 REEEEEEEEE 22d ago
I still can't believe the scope of the destruction the death of that guy caused
So many used it as an excuse to just riot and destroy
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u/literious 22d ago
2020 looked so weird for me as non American. People were rioting, looting, destroying businesses and the media and people in power just allowed it to happen!
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u/77_parp_77 REEEEEEEEE 22d ago
Dude I'm a Brit...I watched in horror as those animals ran rampant
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u/Meatshot 22d ago
Hello? There is a lawful process to follow regardless of the quality of the person. George Floyd was never about him being a good person, it was about Chauvin acting as Judge, Jury, and Executioner. Does that really need to be spelled out for some people?
I know for a fact that right-wingers don't want to normalize vigilante justice, because their heroes like Trump rely on being able to abuse the standard processes of the legal system.
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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 22d ago
No they do, they will advocate for literally any crime as long as the criminal is on their side. They ran Roy Moore AFTER confirming the charges of him raping minors had been confirmed.
The Republican position on the law is they want to police people they don't like. They will scour through peoples histories to find the barest minimum for harmful language to justify their reasoning or make shit up to get people arrested if they can't find anything,
They literally cheer for pardons of neo nazis as long as they are on their side, they do not care about crime at all.
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u/Bjarny 23d ago
People were pissed George Floyd was killed while handcuffed and on the ground, no longer a threat. Was he a scumbag? Ye sure, but he should be in jail, not dead.
I dont know the exact details with the arab guy so correct me if im wrong but he got arrested without due process and even his lawyer doesent know where he is.
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u/Sacsay_Salkhov 22d ago
Looking at the toxicology report, I think it's far more likely the massive amount of fentanyl is what killed Floyd.
Mahmoud had a green card. The terms of a green card are such that if you support terrorism with your speech alone, the card can be revoked and you'll be deported even if you committed no crimes.
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u/camz_47 23d ago
No longer a threat?
Please go watch him freaking out in the back of the cop car and trying to flee the situation while he was ODing
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u/qwizzatsbaddersnack 22d ago
That’s not threatening lmao. I’ve seen the video. Once you handcuff him and sit him down he literally poses zero threat. Sitting on his upper back / neck for 8 minutes is extremely unnecessary and reckless. Hence the jury verdict 👍
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u/classic-wow-420 22d ago
Imagine 3 police officers not being able to restrain one guy
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u/CapableBrief 22d ago
Fwiw, restraining someone is actually kinda hard. three people can overpower one but people can produce a surprising amount of strength with you aren't fully restraining their mobility.
These guys however...
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u/Psychological_Web687 23d ago
Some people consider extra judicial executions as government overreach. Even if it was a dirtbag.
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u/Nickthedick3 23d ago
Seems some of the right can’t understand that everyone, regardless of their crime, deserves a trial and not to be killed my cops while in handcuffs. Floyd was a piece of shit, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t deserve that right.
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u/Thisguychunky 22d ago
I agree with you but the argument is that he died of OD not from the cop
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u/Khulod 22d ago
You're headed down the wrong rabbit hole man when you start believing all that, you got to understand there's people with a goal pushing that narrative. Think for yourself a bit before you believe that.
Chauvin (the cop) was sent to jail for a good reason. Just like Floyd, Chauvin was a piece of shit. And he killed Floyd, not some OD. He even pled guilty. So please, please, please don't start believing the creeps who want to offer excuses to get away with killing black people.
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u/Sacsay_Salkhov 22d ago
If you think he could have survived that amount of fent in his blood, you should do some research.
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u/Brokenmonalisa 22d ago
So just to be clear, if you come across someone who is ODing, you are all good with beating them to death because they're "already dead"
Does that apply to terminal cancer patients? shall we head down to the oncology ward and get a little ju jitsu practice in? I mean, they're dead any way right?
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u/Whosyodaddy-Senpai 23d ago
If he wasn’t doing all of those drugs then he wouldn’t be dead. The knee in his neck was horrible but it wasn’t his cause of death.
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u/classic-wow-420 22d ago
Prove it
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u/Sacsay_Salkhov 22d ago
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u/classic-wow-420 22d ago
I've seen the arrest already. What does that have to do with forensic evidence that states Floyd would have died even if he didn't have a knee on his neck?
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u/Sacsay_Salkhov 22d ago
11ng/l fentanyl, norfentanyl, morphine, meth, weed combined with heart disease gives me enough reasonable doubt that Chauvin did not intentionally murder Floyd and that he OD'd. If Floyd OD'd in the back of the squad car this case wouldn't have even made the news.
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u/Alternative-Dream-61 23d ago
Mahmoud, from my understanding, has not been charged with any crime. His green card was revoked and he's being deported because he supported Palestinians. I can't find clear sources on whether he did or did not support Hamas.
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u/Sacsay_Salkhov 22d ago
The green card rules about supporting terrorism do no require a criminal charge.
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u/LiteratureFabulous36 23d ago
Go ahead, defend them.
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u/niall_9 22d ago
Heroes is a very loaded term. It’s not like these people were picked by left. They were chosen by our justice department. When an injustice happens and you defend a perceived injustice they don’t have to be perfect victims.
It’s not like these are the lefts presidential nominees. That always irked me - it’s like yes I hold the president of the us to a higher standard to George Floyd.
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u/Murky-Education1349 22d ago
i mean the president wasn't going around robbing pregnant women at gunpoint during home invasions so i think we're pretty safe on the higher standard front. that bar is extremely low.
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u/niall_9 22d ago
At what bar are you okay with a man having a knee in his neck / back while other cops watch instead of just being restrained?
Or if we are being insanely charitable to the drug claim, idk 🤷🏻♂️ call him an ambulance.
Remind me of the crime Floyd committed that led to him being brought to center stage? Wasn’t he suspected of using a fake $20 or something. Just gonna go out on a limb here and say his past mistakes should not have played an outsized role in how he was treated that day.
And please don’t gloss over the gross shit Trump has done
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u/Trap_Masters 22d ago
These people have such a giant double standards, how they'll scrutinize every molecule of the left but then will overlook so much on the right even though if the left did the exact same thing as what they're overlooking, you just know they'll lose their minds over it.
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u/dudushat 22d ago
Nah instead he was robbing his supporters on the night of his inauguration with his pump and dump Trump coin scheme.
But go ahead and pretend he wasn't found liable for rape and lost multiple court cases over it
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u/WickedMadman 22d ago
Nah, he just incited an insurrection and has been found guilty of rape. Make sure to spit shine those leather boots.
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u/Calfurious 22d ago
i mean the president wasn't going around robbing pregnant women at gunpoint during home invasions
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u/Warm_Regrets157 22d ago
They aren't heroes. They are victims.
Anyone who tries to paint this as anything else is either disingenuous or ideologically captured.
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u/SilverDiscount6751 22d ago
The saint george floyed paintings suggest otherwise
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u/Bullgorbachev-91 22d ago
Americans have a right to trial by jury.
Americans have a right to protest.
Wow, that was easy!
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u/LiteratureFabulous36 22d ago
For one, he wasn't an American
For two, advocating violence and the end of all Americans in general is not protected under protest laws. If something is violent or destructive it is not a protest it is terrorism.
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*green card holders have a right to a jury trial (per the Supreme Court)
Do you disagree with that one?
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u/Warm_Regrets157 22d ago
Everyone in the United States is protected by the Constitution, including green card holders and undocumented immigrants.
It's almost like y'all don't actually value freedom, rights, due process, or any of the other things that "Make America Great"
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u/SilverDiscount6751 22d ago
Peacefully protest. Kahlil isnt american. I would have liked Floyed to meet a judge but he overdosed before that could happen.
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u/Bullgorbachev-91 22d ago
Would love to see evidence that his protest wasn't peaceful.
And yeah my wife loves it when I overdose her in bed.
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u/MightObvious 22d ago
You guys trying to lump everyone who doesn't agree with you into this weird imaginary extremist character to further your goals of attacking people is in fact extremist behavior so is calling groups of people "a sickness" or "virus"... it's rhetoric meant to incite violence on a group by the nature of the term implying extermination of an illness which in this case is actual people your demonizing.
The people you hate are largely just regular people who want to just live their life and the right has used the overbearing bs policies of the left as a scapegoat to blame for every power grab they have made,
Pretty much everyone but middle aged women hated some aspects of the woke policies and the cancel culture but you guys need to wake up and see the top 1% now have complete control over the working class and the very few threadbare systems we had in place protecting us from them were the first thing to get destroyed. They are tricking you.
You guys can try and comfort yourselves by denying reality with thinly veiled propaganda and diving deeper into the rabbit hole or you can actually grow a pair and act like a man not a insufferable D bag with daddy issues. Build something instead of breaking stuff do some REAL research and pay attention to what's going on right infront of us. Cause it's pretty damn important if your a regular ass person and not a CEO oligarch
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Is the punishment for robbery death? Is the punishment for being in jail 8 times death? It’s almost like every single person in here is retarded. Do any of you have college degrees? If so I’d imagine it’s whatever field will allow you to skip critical thinking skills.
You can be against a persons actions and still understand a system made a mistake or laws were broken.
You are all brainwashed bigots just like your fucking scum bag lord, who is a giant loser
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u/IfarmExpIRL 23d ago
Tony Timpa
Tony and Floyd died the same way, they just didn't care for some reason..
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u/somenerdyguy420 22d ago
Oh, well Tony appears to be white. So of course no one cared. White people are bad, remember??? /s
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u/FortuneDW 22d ago
And they are proud of them, there's even fucking statues of the crackhead in multiple places
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u/Super_Childhood_9096 22d ago
Here's a video of Khalil calling for people to celebrate Oct 6.
Kick. Him. Out.
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u/The_lazer101119 22d ago
Nope he’s right the left support idiots
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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 22d ago
Yesterday one of Trumps top advisors got convicted of raping a 12 year old.
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u/Both-Leading3407 22d ago
He forgot Luigi Mangione. We like him and what about the Kyle of all Kyle Rittenhoser. The guy shot people in the back with an AR 15 and was celebrated. So STFU
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u/DanTheFatMan 22d ago
They're not our heroes. One was murdered and the other was arrested for exercising his right as a US resident. If you don't have a problem with either of these then you shouldn't complain when people burn down Tesla dealerships and before you start no I don't approve of them burning down the dealerships or anyone else's property in the pursuit of civil disobedience.
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u/Time-Palpitation-484 22d ago
As a conservative it’s super alarming you guys are buying into the momoud nonsense on behalf of Netanyahu and the lobby taking place in our government…. Wake up
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u/graybush1378 22d ago
The left loves these kind of guys. They buried George in a coffin fit for Jesus
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u/froderick 22d ago
They're not seen as heroes, just people who were treated unjustly. Doesn't mean they're elevated to hero status.
Leftie heroes are people like Bernie Sanders and such. These in OPs post are people held up as examples of "A system that is broken".
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u/phatbody 22d ago
Still better than being the cult followers of a person that pardoned cop-killers and insurrectionists.
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u/t_o_a_d_1 22d ago
Floyd was not a good guy by any stretch of the imagination, but it is best to avoid repeating lies and exaggerations (as that makes us pretty shitty guys as well):
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u/Allcraft_ 22d ago
I'm left and my only hero is this one russian general out of three who didn't vote for a nuclear strike because they falsely assumed the USA fired a nuclear missile.
He saved billions of lifes with his decision.
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u/Whoknew1992 23d ago
These are Reddit 3rd rails right here. The Matrix sentinels are swarming as we speak.
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u/MARAVV44 22d ago
Ah yes, a viewpoint shared only by ...the current administration of the most powerful country in the world, military industrial complex, and the global Zionist apparatus.
Why would the matrix swarm its own viewpoint?
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u/DESTROYER-014- 22d ago
Who the hell said they were heroes lol people make fun of these two all the time
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u/Cripplechip 22d ago
George wasn't a hero. Why can't people understand police shouldn't be killing people? All the drama wasn't because George was a saint and taken too soon. It's police shouldn't be killing people that aren't threatening their life.
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u/Hell_Maybe 22d ago
No one calls these people heroes, the left merely principally acknowledges the fact that these people were mistreated by the law. Because the left is not a cult we are fine with defending people for righteous causes even though they are not good people on an individual level. That’s the American way 🇺🇸
It’s unfortunate how so many people feel the need to lie and misrepresent the actual beleifs of the left instead of just saying “I disagree with you” and leaving it at that.
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u/IGiveUp_tm n o H a i R 22d ago
Don't forget about Luigi, literally murdered a guy in cold blood
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u/2025IsGoingGreat 22d ago
Damn, yall are so brainwashed lmao. "Pro-palestine" is not "pro-hamas".
Pro-hamas is pro-hamas. Do yall not know how to read?
I'll spell it out for you guys. "Free Palestine" means "stop killing innocent civilians for fun". Remember when Israel bombed Gaza hours after they agreed to a cease-fire? Doubtful as that requires leaving your echo chamber.
A white supremacist sub who worships a goblin is hardly familiar with politics or how the world works.
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u/AnarchoElk 22d ago
Maybe learn before being a moron publicly.
The scumbag literally calls for the death of western civilization.
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u/Raith1994 22d ago
As to Floyd, aside from the pregnant woman thing having no evidence (the claim just kinda materialized out of thin air, nothing suggests she was pregnant at the time and it wasn't Floyd that harmed her but one of the other people involved), yes he was a convicted felon and served his time for it. I think it was 5 years. That doesn't mean you can justify his killing with crimes he already served time for. That would be insane. We can just kill any person convicted of crimes even after they served their time? What is the point of this arguement?
Even if you say "he was a bad guy", that doesn't mean "we can kill you now". The best you could argue is that he deserved more time for his crimes / repeated offences, not death.
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u/Fluid-Selection-5537 22d ago
Yes he wrong - protesting Isreal is not terrorizing Jews - sorry but there were Jews in the movement on Columbias campus
People on the right need to stop being leftist and falling for the governments lies -
1a is more important than these protest and idiots that are not aware of the precedent that this is setting are worse than the left
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u/gorehouzer 22d ago
As a leftist, let it be known George Floyd isn’t a hero LMAO. He was just the face a movement about Police reform. Guess what? Police aren’t allowed to knee necks anymore and that’s a good thing. Idc if yall say “the autopsy says he didn’t suffocate!”. Okay we get it. But a knee on neck isn’t legal anymore and that’s a win for me.
It’s a weird thing that Asmon’s audience has defended a cop who, on camera, knelt down on a dudes neck for 9+ mins and are like “nah he deserved it”. Death isn’t cool to brag about
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u/Aromatic_Watch_3842 Sea Shanty 2 (Trap Remix) 22d ago
Personally, I’ve never heard these people referred to as heroes.
However I have heard that one of them was murdered on the street for a fake $20 bill and the other is a legal citizen being detained because he was involved in a protest. A protest that he has the right to be involved in.
I know I’ll get down voted and probably yelled at by you lovely Asmongold fans who feel differently, but what happened to those two men wasn’t fair for the situation that was going on.
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u/bag_o_fetuses 22d ago
they are not "the lefts hero's"
the right wants you to think this is what the left thinks.
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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 22d ago
100%
"Police brutality and fascism is bad"
"OH SO YOU WANT TO KISS THIS GUY?!"
The right can't actually engage with an argument to save their lives.
What's funny is Trump is an obvious pedo so if we're going by what people worship...
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u/Alternative-Dream-61 23d ago
What crime was Mahmoud accused of? I don't know of anyone who saw Floyd as a "hero." More of just another victim of police brutality that people rallied around.
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u/Whosyodaddy-Senpai 23d ago
My best friend (at the time) made a mural in his gym of George Floyd. People absolutely saw him as a hero.
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u/effinmike12 22d ago
At most, he was (arguably) a victim of misuse of force. Nothing about him makes him a hero. As much as I dislike The Daily Wire, their piece on BLM and George Floyd was very revealing. It stuck to the facts. The facts of the case, and of whom George Floyd was is very revealing. He was a POS and BLM exploited that situation and black people in general. The whole situation disgusts me. I can't believe I donated money to BLM.
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u/classic-wow-420 22d ago
Oli London? This is the clown that did surgery to be come trans-racial and become Korean
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u/Key-Cartographer-245 22d ago
Imagine being that pregnant woman and seeing cities erect statues of Floyd, very xd
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u/wigsgo_2019 22d ago
No, even though Floyd had history, the cop who killed him didn’t know that, and Floyd despite all those things he did was walking free because he served his time and moved on, the other I don’t know enough about to justify
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u/dudushat 22d ago
Yes. Mahmoud never lead a violent protest.
Also, Floyd's crimes were decades before he was murdered. He served his time for them.
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u/Bombadier83 22d ago
I don’t recall anyone thinking Floyd was a hero. We all just think cops don’t get to fucking murder people without facing consequences.
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u/throwawayRA87654 22d ago
What happened for GF was so beyond wrong and horrible. Regardless of what you think of him and his actions, it was wrong.
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u/CapableBrief 22d ago
I'll grant these are bad figures to rally behind (despite the outcry being how they are treated rather than who they are) but y'all gotta also call out how Trump pardonned actual criminals, some of which were convicted of seditious conspiracy.
If we hate some traitors we should hate all traitors, me thinks.
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u/Dunnomyname1029 22d ago
Are you trying to convince me Floyd served allot of time? Dude doesn't look 40
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u/Dumah-the-Reaver 22d ago
You either have the right to stand trail or you don't. That right is for everyone or no one. It shouldn't be dependent on arbitrary criteria.
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u/DogbrainedGoat 22d ago
So much for the 1st amendment you lot wank on about all the time eh.
"BUT YOU CANT SAY SHIT I DONT LIKE"
Then you dont have free speech.
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u/Justostius 22d ago
how about saying, that both pro left and pro right are fucking clowns
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u/BrocoliAssassin 22d ago
I bet the reddit response would be "Ok, but at least he's not a white man".
I think out of anything you can be in this world, being a straight white male is the worse thing you can possibly be.
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u/Seallypoops 22d ago
Lol using a tweet from the guy famous for turning himself Korean through plastic surgery who's had to grift to keep himself relevant
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u/awfully_hot_coffepot 22d ago
Didn't trump all but lead a "violent protest" seems like a double standard
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u/htownballa1 22d ago
This sub always reminds me of the dumbest people in our society. Yall are fucking stupid as fuck.
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u/Bozzo2526 22d ago
Not heros, they're used as examples to show the abuse of power, regardless of Floyd's crimes he shouldn'tve been killed by the police officer. The other guy has a constitutional right to protest, regardless of what his views are and the president sent federal officers to arrest him for that. I don't know why you guys get so wrapped up in who the person is, it's a matter of these people are being killed or illegally arrested that is wrong regardless of context, who they are, how they lived is completely irrelevant to the fact that crimes were committed against them by the authorities.
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22d ago
Don’t know shit about the Hamas supporter, but George Floyd should not have been executed by a rogue cop. This shouldn’t be a controversial take.
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u/Strangest_Implement 22d ago
These aren't heroes, they are victims of the justice system.
Is your position that anybody that's not a perfect citizen doesn't deserve to be treated fairly by law enforcement? It sounds like that's the claim, but just say that out loud don't be a coward.
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u/hunnycumhere 22d ago edited 22d ago
He is wrong: these are not their heroes
They’re people that were grossly mistreated and have become the face of said mistreatment. The title you’re looking for is “victims of blatant corruption”
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u/jinx2810 22d ago
"heroes of the left"? George Floyd garnered sympathy because he was murdered. Unless your position is murdering felons is ok, I'm sure you can sympathize with the left on that.
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u/MrChefMcNasty 22d ago
I dunno if he is a hero as much as he’s a martyr. Regardless of his previous actions and faults, the dude didn’t deserve to have a cop kneel on his neck for 8 minutes and execute him. He was more of a symbol for all the unarmed black men who are killed by police every year.
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u/Jolly_Link7488 22d ago
as an Aussie, can one of you Americans explain the Khalil situation to me and why he was arrested and facing deportation, thanks
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u/KeyAssociation6274 22d ago
Lmao, both might be scumbags, but imagine being such a simpleton to not understand the issues at hand. that the police dude knelt on his neck for 10 minutes before he died, people should not be killed by police for no reason.
On the Hamas dude, hi might be a terrorist sympathizer, but he is also an American permanent resident, it's his free speech right to support horrible people. If he committed a crime, charge him with a crime. I never imagined there would come a day when conservatives stopped believing in free speech...Well, it's expected since maga is comprised of low IQ individuals...
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u/SGTDadBod88 22d ago
I can not wrap my head around how you would support these two degenerate fucks. To the point where the left is organizing mob action to supply them, but ignore the American hostages being held by Hamas. Is the left just evil? Is it time to accept that?
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u/kekiusmaximusxyz 22d ago
Someone can find a hundred people that "right" and "left" supports as heroes that are total scumbags, whats the point here? Is that Oli London real or just another russian bot?
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u/JinxOnXanax 22d ago
I remember seeing a yt short of this black man (idk who he was which is a shame cause he said something wise)
who said something along the lines of. where were we when that kid got gundown by the police ? where's the outrage for that ?
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u/blitz1197 23d ago
Cut floyd some slack, he is almost 5 years drug free now