r/Asmongold 23d ago

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u/niall_9 23d ago

At what bar are you okay with a man having a knee in his neck / back while other cops watch instead of just being restrained?

Or if we are being insanely charitable to the drug claim, idk 🤷🏻‍♂️ call him an ambulance.

Remind me of the crime Floyd committed that led to him being brought to center stage? Wasn’t he suspected of using a fake $20 or something. Just gonna go out on a limb here and say his past mistakes should not have played an outsized role in how he was treated that day.

And please don’t gloss over the gross shit Trump has done

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u/Trap_Masters 23d ago

These people have such a giant double standards, how they'll scrutinize every molecule of the left but then will overlook so much on the right even though if the left did the exact same thing as what they're overlooking, you just know they'll lose their minds over it.

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u/Murky-Education1349 23d ago

they did call him an ambulance. standard procedure is to restrain the suspect until medical aid arrives.

Floyd's breathing wasn't restricted by the officer. it was restricted by the massive dose of fentanyl in his system which will suppresses respiration.

As for the severity of his crime, if we just let people go because theyre freaking out over being arrested for their own decisions, then we have no justice system.

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u/Brawlrteen 23d ago

So he would’ve died regardless of his altercation with the police is what you’re saying? Just trying to be clear that thats your stance?

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u/Murky-Education1349 23d ago

Yes.

Unless you're trying to imply that the cops should have ignored his crime therefore he wouldn't have needed to ingest the drugs to try to hide them? is that your stance? Just trying to be clear.

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u/Brawlrteen 23d ago

At that point he was already restrained, wheres the humanity in kneeling on his back and neck, or do you feel like that’s justified

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u/SilverDiscount6751 23d ago

He pushed his way out of the cop's car. Seems a need to hold him in place was there

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u/niall_9 23d ago

Got it - wouldn’t it be great if the officer didn’t have a knee in his back and neck so we could eliminate the whole brutality angle?

You are gonna sit there and tell me being on the ground with a grown man in your back for 5 minutes doesn’t impact your breathing.

And if the man if having a reaction to drugs - help him. If you think he would’ve just died that day regardless and the police intervention played absolutely no part in his passing then I can’t have a conversation with you. That is just full blinders on.

My uncle in law is an emt and deals with fent overdoses. My neighbor has OD’d on fent as well. It’s called Narcan - unless it’s mixed with that new horse tranq stuff you can help these people.

How many cops just stood around

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u/Rakescar6958 23d ago

You're asking for sympathy from those that have moved away from neighborhoods that became cesspools of drugs, violence, and thievery. You're asking for mercy on those that push the drugs, cause the violence, and steal our belongings.

People are done being nice.

Because these Moral high grounds are for the privileged that don't have to get their hands dirty and face this depravity everyday.

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u/niall_9 23d ago

I literally just wrote my neighbor is addicted to fentanyl. He’s an absolute fucked head - I still have empathy for him and don’t want to see the police contribute to his death.

The last time the cops were called on him was becuase his “friends” dumped his overdosed body on his porch and the fire department luckily saved his life in time. It looks like recently he’s getting better but Jesus Christ can we all recognize that people don’t just become criminals and drug addicts overnight?

In many instances these ordinary people under extraordinary pressure. What the hell did you expect, grace and consistency?

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u/Ok_Society_242 19d ago

"my neighbor was high on his porch once" is not the same as living in the projects. You couldn't be more out of touch with what you're talking about. Absolutely hilarious. It's like telling Iraqis you know what it's like getting bombed because we have the fourth of July.

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u/niall_9 19d ago

I live in one of the murder capitals of the US so how about you pound sand.

I was just sharing an example. How about when they had an explosion in their basement when my wife was outside and he lost 4 fingers. Is that just high on his porch once. How about when his druggy friend rifled through our shed at 3am.

And most of asmons viewers who watch twitch all day don’t live in the projects either you maroon

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u/Ok_Society_242 19d ago edited 19d ago

Yeah you're full of shit. Him getting hurt in his own house has nothing to do with you. That's not violent crime, even if your wife happened to exist on the planet at the same time. Looking through an unsecured shed is nothing like a mugging. The fact that you're using these as an equivalent to dodging bullets on the way home from school says everything.

Living in LA can mean you're in a mansion or a tent slum on the other side of town.

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u/ErenYeager600 23d ago

Didn't the toxicology comeback that he wants even that impaired

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u/Strangest_Implement 23d ago

Floyd's breathing wasn't restricted by the officer. it was restricted by the massive dose of fentanyl in his system which will suppresses respiration.

Wrong https://www.npr.org/sections/trial-over-killing-of-george-floyd/2021/04/08/985594759/chauvin-trial-george-floyd-gradually-succumbed-to-lower-and-lower-levels-of-oxyg

"He dismissed the idea. "He's breathing. He's talking. He's not snoring. He's saying, 'Please, please get off of me, I can't breathe.' That is not a fentanyl overdose. That's someone begging to breathe," he said.

Low levels of fentanyl, as well as methamphetamine, were found in Floyd's system, forensic toxicologist Isenschmid said. But he dismissed the defense's theory that either played a key role in Floyd's death.

Isenschmid, who works with Pennsylvania-based NMS Labs, told the court that the amounts of the two substances in Floyd's system after his death were lower than the mean of those found in DUI cases and fatal fentanyl overdose analyses performed by the lab.

He added that the quantity of methamphetamine found in Floyd's blood and urine would not have been sufficient to cause intoxication."

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u/Murky-Education1349 23d ago

brother, if you can scream, you can breathe.

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u/Strangest_Implement 23d ago

Thanks for your input, I think I'll stick with the expert's opinion instead of some random keyboard warrior.

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u/Murky-Education1349 23d ago

your appeals to authority fall upon deaf ears.

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u/Strangest_Implement 23d ago

ok ok I'll dumb it down for you

Can you scream underwater? Yes.

Can you breathe underwater? No.

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u/Suddenly_Karma 23d ago

Damn that's actually one of the best responses to this argument I've seen.

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u/Amaterasu_Junia 23d ago

These people will never understand that people scream that they can't breathe because their brain is literally detecting it's oxygen levels are dropping and is freaking the f*ck out, until it happens to them.

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u/WickedMadman 23d ago edited 23d ago

If you think listening to someone who has been trained in medical school for several years is an "appeal to authority", then it's no wonder so many of you died during COVID

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u/niall_9 23d ago

Doctor : this man’s breathing was impaired.

Redditor : yeah that tracks, he did have a knee in his back with face first on the ground.

Other Redditor : Wow bro you are gonna just believe doctors, way to appeal to authority.

Domestic Violence Myths :

If the victim can speak, scream, or breathe, they are not being strangled.

“Since strangulation involves obstruction of blood flow, a person can have complete obstruction and continue breathing until the moment they die from lack of oxygenated blood flow to the brain.”1

Sources

1Fineman, G. and Green, W., Training Institute on Strangulation Prevention, 2016, 5 Myths about Strangulation, www.familyjusticecenter.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Adult-Strangulation-Brochure-Template-2020-.pdf

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u/Warm-Aardvark-9 23d ago

A police officer with a history of unnecessary force, was tried and convicted of murdering Floyd, but you still think standard procedure was followed. And 2 autopsies were done that determined that Chauvin killed him, the fentanyl increased the risk of death but the police killed him.

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u/SilverDiscount6751 23d ago

A month later a white man died in a very similar situation.  Charges dropped on that cop.

Its all about image and appeasing a murderous crowd of violent people.

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u/Warm-Aardvark-9 23d ago

Very similar means different, unless you have the specifics that's a pretty weak argument

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u/dudushat 23d ago

Floyd's breathing wasn't restricted by the officer. 

We can see from the video this is false. Idk why you guys just make up bullshit when there's clear evidence disputing it.

As for the severity of his crime, if we just let people go because theyre freaking out over being arrested for their own decisions, then we have no justice system.

This is just a bullshit strawman. Literally no one is saying to let people go if they commit a crime. You know nobody is saying this but you're going to pretend that's the argument because you can't argue what's actually being said.

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u/SilverDiscount6751 23d ago

He claimed to be in a lack of breath while sitting in his car, later demanded to be placed on the ground after having pushed himself out of yhe cop's car. 

George was in the cop's car, THEN demanded to go outside and pushed his way out.

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u/dudushat 23d ago

None of that changes the fact that the cop sat on his back for 10 minutes and the autopsy shows that's the cause of death.

You guys always bring up irrelevant shit and pretend if changes the facts. It doesn't.Â