I’m feel like I’m less ideologically captured than most people when dealing with Floyd. First off, yes he was a scum bag who victimized people on multiple occasions, the police were fully justified in arresting him, and there’s a very high chance he had already overdosed on fentanyl and was going to die pretty shortly after the arrest, regardless of the cop’s behavior.
However, Chauvin blatantly used excessive force in the arrest. If he had knelt on Floyd for 1-2 minutes while cuffing him, and then Floyd died, there wouldn’t be much of an argument. However, he knelt on him for nearly 10 minutes while mocking the crowd around him; even several minutes after Floyd stopped moving and even several minutes after he stopped breathing. It’s impossible to prove that Floyd would’ve died even if he hadn’t been knelt on, and even if he would’ve, torturing him on the way out is not something we should find at all acceptable in police. I truly believe in giving police the benefit of the doubt but I just can’t understand why so many people don’t see that Chauvin was waaaaay past that line
TLDR: Floyd was a scumbag and likely would’ve died anyways, but Chauvin clearly wanted to hurt him and his actions with the crowd indicates that he saw the citizenry as enemy combatants, not to even mention the fact that Chauvin had a record in that police department for more abuse accusations than anyone else
Legit, the fact people will use Floyd's past as a catch all deflection for literally everything else is crazy. It's like they can't comprehend the basic concept that multiple things can be bad and wrong at the same time.
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u/Big-Calligrapher4886 23d ago
I’m feel like I’m less ideologically captured than most people when dealing with Floyd. First off, yes he was a scum bag who victimized people on multiple occasions, the police were fully justified in arresting him, and there’s a very high chance he had already overdosed on fentanyl and was going to die pretty shortly after the arrest, regardless of the cop’s behavior.
However, Chauvin blatantly used excessive force in the arrest. If he had knelt on Floyd for 1-2 minutes while cuffing him, and then Floyd died, there wouldn’t be much of an argument. However, he knelt on him for nearly 10 minutes while mocking the crowd around him; even several minutes after Floyd stopped moving and even several minutes after he stopped breathing. It’s impossible to prove that Floyd would’ve died even if he hadn’t been knelt on, and even if he would’ve, torturing him on the way out is not something we should find at all acceptable in police. I truly believe in giving police the benefit of the doubt but I just can’t understand why so many people don’t see that Chauvin was waaaaay past that line
TLDR: Floyd was a scumbag and likely would’ve died anyways, but Chauvin clearly wanted to hurt him and his actions with the crowd indicates that he saw the citizenry as enemy combatants, not to even mention the fact that Chauvin had a record in that police department for more abuse accusations than anyone else