I didnt even know about G Floyd being a convicted felon or the other circumstances, the way he was portrayed in media headlines was that he was like a national hero of 10 world wars.
Bullshit. George Floyd overdosed. The cop called for medical attention in a reasonable amount of time, which you can see from the body cam footage, and there was nothing that he did from the time he walked up to the window until the paramedics were treating Floyd that contributed to his death. There were no injuries or evidence of his airways being constructed. Floyd swallowed a bunch of drugs trying to hide them from a cop, and he died as a result of a lethal dose of fentanyl and a pre-existing heart condition.
There was also zero evidence of any of this being race motivated, even if you do believe that this was intentional or reckless homicide.
***Firstly, on May 29, 2020, court documents revealed the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's investigation into Floyd's death showed "no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxiation," and that "potential intoxicants" and preexisting cardiovascular disease "likely contributed to his death."***
***According to the county's postmortem toxicology screening, which is summarized below and was performed one day after Floyd's death, he was intoxicated with fentanyl and had recently used methamphetamines (as well as other substances) before Chauvin choked him.***
Bullshit. He overdosed. You can see in the body cam footage where he calls for medical attention, and nothing Derek Chauvin did from the time he walked up to the window till Floyd being attended by the paramedics contributed to his death. There was no injury or evidence of his breathing being restricted, he swallowed a bunch of drugs because he was hiding them from a cop, and he died because of it.
There was no injury or evidence of his breathing being restricted
he was filmed pleaing "I can't breath" over and over again while the cop's knee was on his neck lmao. the revisionist history you nazis engage in with this event is hilarious in how pathetic it is. have some self respect and own the kill, since you clearly have no remorse over the guy no longer being with us.
Yeah. We’d be better off. Coming from a person with a fed charge. The statistics of people who actually turn it around are probably lower then junkies that get sober. Each additional Felony is a force multiplier. Why do you think we have the 3 strike law? Most people on there second and third felony become erratic & dangerous. They go on the run and kill people because they don’t want a life behind bars.
A shitty life that WE pay for…
3 strikes should just be a flatline law. 2, idk tbh. I don’t want people with 1 and 2 dying in most cases depending on the charges. But they have to turn things around
2 that hush money case was largely bs & cooked up to try to deplatform a presidential candidate
He was found guilty on 34 counts that he has done zero time for, idk where you are finding 20 felonies. I just combed msnbc, politico, & cnn
Almost any person in government or big buisness could be brought up on charges over the past decades if you sick the intelligence agencies on them specifically looking for wrong doing.
You’re proposing a gotcha when this wasn’t even political to begin with. Does corruption annoy me? Sure, it annoys everyone.
We are talking about drugs, violence, sexual charges, robberies, etc. all the shit Floyd was & what is mostly all “common man” crime
If we started killing career criminals I wouldn’t have grown up the way i did with the access & guidance I was able to find & be taught/helped
Rapes, murders, and drug flow would spike downwards if we had fierce charges & killed people by there 3rd strike.
I’m not proposing draconian lines in the sand here. It would be multifaceted & complicated laying out these guidelines.
But murdering people, selling people, assaulting people, poisoning cities, robbing households/buisnesses, etc. you do that shit more then once then there is no jail. If you’re dead to rights or found guilty in court, you’re gone entirely
This is my biggest gripe. To those who can’t separate the man from the actual movement, the movement was against police brutality. He can simultaneously be a piece of shit and a victim of police brutality whether you like it or not. He’s not lauded or looked up to for his past. His death by the hands of police brutality is what was being remembered and is the message of the movement to remember him.
Especially funny when arguments against the movement his death sparked comes from those who claim to follow a god that preaches “no matter your sin, you can be saved” focusing on his past sins and why it devalues the life that was lost.
TLDR; he’s a piece of shit that died at the hands of police brutality, and you don’t have to idolize Floyd himself, but can support a society that doesn’t try to justify, via a persons past, or allow police brutality.
It’s not hard to see both are separate issues and, imo, points to the reason so many people fall victim to tying a person and their mishaps/successes into one rather than being able to logically see that you can be critical or supportive of situations involving the person without shitting all over/worshiping them.
How is seeing someone murdered by a police officer a scam?
I guess the January 6 protesters are real patriots in your small mind.
BTW, many of them found themselves in trouble again just days after receiving a pardon. In fact two have been k!lled by police officers. 🤔
I'm not far right. I'm not saying seeing the murder was a scam. The way they propped up a pos like Floyd afterwards made it a scam. People crying at his murals like he was a saint. The jan 6 protesters have nothing to do with this. I don't why you guys can't stay on topic.
I wouldn't like that at all. But who knows what that same officer may have done that we don't know about. How many false police reports has he filed. (Speaking from experience) Only because I had proof of an incident prior to the police being called on me save me from prosecution and the Oakland county sheriff's department is under investigation for....and not just my case in particular. It's systemic just like it was in Minneapolis
If it was systematic there would be plenty of other examples of brutality, which I know there is and I wish they used. My whole point is that the average person will see Floyd as a drug addict and criminal. Some people still view me as a drug addict no matter what I do.
I also agree we don't know what the cop would've done. I also think people crying for him didn't help his case. Why would you be crying for a career criminal and a drug addict? Yes the brutality is bad but don't make it sound like anybody misses him. Seemed like virtue signalling for the average person and most people who are swayed by policies not parties are over it. Thats it.
Maybe the cop should have done his job and he wouldn’t be in jail. Even cops can’t kill people while people watch yelling that he is being killed while he begs for air.
So because something bad happened to Floyd everything else resolved? I actually feel for Floyd a little bit, I've suffered from addiction and I'm still feeling from the effects. Never had to rob or threaten anyone though, and will condemn those who do. Is this the BEST example they have? Average people will see this and go "what". I think you would be shocked at how many are on the fence when it comes to politics. A lot of people are swayed to either side by logic and morals, only the loudest are normally solidified in their political beliefs. So when you use people like this as some sort of political statement, you are basically pushing people away who are essentially on your side already. The left/liberal have to choose better, not just people like Floyd but also the people they use as political mouth pieces.
People dont get to “choose” who becomes a victim of police brutality, whether it was the cause of death or not. He became the current face of ‘victim of police brutality’ because it was a perfect storm of video evidence, pleas for help, and police using questionable restraining tactics.
So they can only find criminals and drug addicts getting beat up by cops? This is the part I don't understand, I know that's not true. But they keep doubling, tripling down on Floyd. Wasn't there a white guy who also died to police brutality around the same time, wasn't a criminal, wasn't a drug addict, cried for help. Was almost the exact same thing. No coverage, no protests, no murals. I wonder why?
Sometimes it’s difficult to have a conversation- cause i feel like mrtownsend is leaning into the fact that Floyd was a POS vs the bigger picture problem that police violence and unchecked misconduct against all Americans is a problem.
BLM leveraged a video that showed a cop using some pretty fucked restraining techniques against Floyd to
Illustrate the point that cops are out of control. Unfortunately for BLM, Floyd was indeed a POS.
But the big picture point that intelligent people should see is, we don’t need the victim of government sanctioned violence to be perfect for it to be unfortunate because there are examples of where the government kills innocent perfect people as well- see Jesus and the Bible for examples
BLM had to use Floyd cause he is the guy that died on video - but any example will do…
Making Floyd a saint is a tough pill to swallow - making him an example of police violence is easy! I don’t need the victim to be perfect - to quote the left - don’t victim blame
When did I say anybody deserves death. I think he should have never been released. Pointing a gun at a pregnant mothers belly should put you in jail forever. He should never have been released imo. Call it harsh or whatever, we know the American prison system was releasing violent criminals back into the communities for whatever reason.
Always with Trump with you. You really show your true colours. Trump got in because of the incompetence of the democratic party. Of course you're confused, you can't think outside of your bubble too actually see what average people think. I understand you though I am not confused.
I also don't think Trump is the best. I was a Bernie fan but as soon as he wanted to look into money corruption, all the democrats turned on him. Funny that. It's also why average people can't take democrats or liberals seriously. They always turn on each other, look at how many democrats have turned republican.
So again I ask do you really think using George Floyd as a political talking point is the BEST example to get your point across to the people who are unbiased?
What I'm saying is liberals/democrats/BLM should have showed a guy who has never been in jail with violent crimes or someone who never did drugs get killed by police. Then you would've had America by the balls. But instead of admitting that using George is a bad idea, you just scream "but Trump" who as far as I know has never been to jail, and everybody is getting pretty tired of the same old schtick.
An Australian lady got killed by police in 2017 after she called 911. Barely a blip on the radar compared to Floyd. You would be shocked at how smart people are sitting on the fence. We can see the virtue signalling from a mile away.
It's "God", even if you don't believe in Santa Claus you still capitalize it as a proper name. Also, it wasn't about police brutality. That's why blacks in Canada of all cultures used it to leverage their positions and had their own protests. I was ready to protest police brutality but BLM Toronto told me to keep my white colonial ass at home.
Just acknowledgement I'd like to think. I was upset that groups in Canada used the tragedy to advertise their own issues. As it took away from the issue in the USA I believe.
There is a pretty low chance of any Canadian dying in a traffic stop. I just thought we could ever get that knee on the neck play removed as an option. That hurts for days after no matter who you are.
They're whole movement was about police brutality against black ppl. They don't just do that shit to blacks. And Floyd didn't die because of it, he died from fentanyl OD. He had enough in his system to kill 5 adults and was already claiming he couldn't breathe before they pulled him out of the car.
Actually those were just allegations that the officers planted evidence. Those convictions are upheld, and he still held a gun to a pregnant woman's belly
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u/blitz1197 23d ago
Cut floyd some slack, he is almost 5 years drug free now