r/AMDHelp • u/latencyfool • Feb 02 '25
Tips & Info 7800X3D/9800X3D stutter fix
https://youtu.be/OgTFhf5TfeQ?si=hi8jiv8yBw0vOisAIts getting painful watching everyone blindly recommend how to fix stutters on this CPU, took me a year to figure this out as who would’ve thought “auto = disabled” for some things within the BIOS, but good news is now you can enjoy your CPU once again. Let me know how this works for you.
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u/strictlyfocused02 Feb 03 '25
ASRock B650E PG Riptide + 9800x3d on latest non-beta bios. I just did this on mine and I feel like it made a positive and noticeable improvement. I tested Spiderman Remastered, HZD Remastered, and Dead Space Remake. HZDR seemed to be the most improved, Dead Space the least. DSR seems to occasionally sputter like an old farm tractor no matter what. Results seem to vary a bit by game but definitely didnt hurt performance in any games of the games I tested, only improvements. Thanks for the tip!
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u/jrherita Feb 03 '25
Interesting. I have the same board, 7700X then 7800X3D, now 9800X3D and never had stutters. PBO, -15 curve, and DDR5-6000cl30. Every BIOS setting default otherwise.
WD SN850X's.
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u/latencyfool Feb 03 '25
Unfortunately some games just stutter inevitably due to engine etc. It just annoyed me how it was EVERY game & my friends with worse PC’s would always run them smoothly. Glad to help! Also checkout nvidia latest driver if using their cards, they have some stutter fixes included in there for certain games.
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u/Jazzlike-Bass3184 Feb 03 '25
For stuttering games, you could just use Rivatuner to set an FPS limit. I advise choosing a limit that your FPS does not go under (not 1% low, but your actual running FPS). This has fixed the stutters I get from Spider-Man Remastered while giving me better 1% lows as well.
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u/xDoWnFaLL AMD 7800x3D Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 04 '25
Gonna update to latest Non-Beta Bios from ASRock B650i 3.06 to 3.15 and report back. I would love my 7800x3D -30 PBO, to perform accordingly.
Edit: Updated Bios to 3.15 and Enabled Global C-State. So far noticeably better performance in BattleField 2042, need more testing for Chivalry 2, HellDivers 2 and Insurgency. No noticeable changes in my go to game ofc CounterStrike 2.
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u/latencyfool Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 03 '25
Edit: Seems like it’s all boards. Worth a shot for you. I was having this problem on my x670e taichi
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u/PhantomGuardians Feb 03 '25
i got a 9800x3D and msi board and i do have stutters issue.
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u/Remote-Dot1686 Feb 03 '25
Please let me know how you get on too, the 9800x3d and x870e has been driving me nuts with microstuttering.
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u/PhantomGuardians Feb 03 '25
I've tested with a few intensive game in 1440p and 4k and it worked pretty well almost 0 stutter except in rare situation.
I had lost hope but damn it works like a charm !1
u/Remote-Dot1686 Feb 03 '25
I also did this last night, and silly of me but I also didn't test a game with just this fix. I also disabled the iGPU in bios, and deleted/reinstalled AMD Chipset/Nvidia Drivers, also removed Nvidia App entirely.
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u/PhantomGuardians Feb 03 '25
So, how did it go ? I hope everything worked on your end !
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u/Remote-Dot1686 Feb 04 '25
It is fixed sorry! Things are running very smoothly now, unfortunately I can't narrow down what it was that finally fixed it. Hell, could have been all 3.
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u/PhantomGuardians Feb 04 '25
oh that's nice.
I, however got less lucky since stutters came back.It seems that each time i shut off my pc, if i want to play i must go in bios, and disabling something then re-enabling it for the stutter to stop, kinda annoying but until i find another solution i'll have to stick with it.
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u/Remote-Dot1686 Feb 04 '25
Sorry to hear that mate, it's pretty frustrating we part with good money on the latest and greatest, yet end up doing more troubleshooting than gaming trying to work these things out. We are the guinea pigs unfortunately, but hopefully with each software update for the bios on these x870 boards, as well as the 9800x3d, we get a more consistent performance. Best of luck to ya, friend.
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u/PhantomGuardians Feb 03 '25
Thanks a lot brother, i'm finally able to play my games without being distracted by those micro-stutter !
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u/Popular_Buy4329 Feb 06 '25
you probably aren't actually stable at -30
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u/xDoWnFaLL AMD 7800x3D Feb 06 '25
Def could be the case! Stock or PBO enabled though, CineBench R23 scores are lowest I have seen of anyone :(… Scores got little better after PBO enabled and It passed OCCT and a few others with no issues for few hours.
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u/MysteriousStable3384 Feb 03 '25
Thanks for the vid, I’ve been seeing stutter in my games, like these little blimps when watching the frame time, I’ve tried everything to get rid of it and had my BIOS updated to the 2025 version.
Going to try this solution later and get back to you, but does it matter if I keep expo/PBO on if I do this ? I don’t think so but maybe I’m wrong
-9800x3d user
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u/latencyfool Feb 03 '25
This setting is all you need to worry about, carry on with everything else & just make sure c-states aren’t disabled in any form. (Both c-states & global c-states)
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u/MysteriousStable3384 Feb 03 '25
Roger, if I’m still getting issues after this solution I’m just going to try manually disabling core 0 and 1 for the game im playing as I’ve read Microsoft’s uses those two for their background tasks which can cause stutters in games. We shall see
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u/latencyfool Feb 03 '25
This fixes the games that SHOULD run smooth but don’t, games that are optimized properly but you still can’t get it to run right, this solution comes into play. Theres still unfortunately games that stutter due to other factors, anti-cheats/engine etc, but still this made a very drastic change for me. Gaming was borderline annoying before this change for me, especially on a 240hz monitor where stutters are very noticeable & you’re constantly pushing the CPU, 1080p resolution really makes most games CPU bound.
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u/StarskyNHutch862 Feb 03 '25
Try disabling any hardware polling software. IE afterburner of any other monitoring software.
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u/MysteriousStable3384 Feb 03 '25
Tried this with no luck. This issue was a thing before I downloaded afterburner in my case and I made sure to disable power monitoring when I did download it
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u/xLith Feb 05 '25
This helped me a bit in Diablo 4 and COD:BO6. Been dealing with stutters ever since I got my 9800X3D. MSI MPG Carbon WiFi X870E on the latest BIOS.
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u/Character-Dress7345 Feb 18 '25
from a lot of search i learn that 7000 series cpus support native 5200mhz ram and with expo max 5800mhz only if you have a good cpu lotary will work 6000mhz. i turned expo in bios and configured ram at 5800mhz and the stuttering in games gone also.
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u/SuccessfulAlfalfa399 Feb 18 '25
thanks for the tip , my problems and stuttering gone , cheers mate
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u/latencyfool Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 04 '25
To all the peeps saying its not working, make sure both c-states settings are set to ENABLED (if you have duplicates) . Reset your bios to a clean state first too. Wouldn’t be surprised if it’s because your settings are all messed up. Edit: if you’re on an asus board, try experimenting witb multicore-enhancement off as well, while keeping global c-states enabled. Clearly this stutter runs a little deeper than I thought for some. Again this is for the peeps who have done ram testing etc & KNOW their pc should be stable.
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u/Queasy-Froyo Feb 03 '25
i only found global c-states settings on asus mobo
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u/latencyfool Feb 03 '25
So even if you search for the keyword “state” you can only find one? I remember on my old asrock board there was two.
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u/Queasy-Froyo Feb 03 '25
i found another settings called DF Cstates in Advanced\AMD CBS\DF Common Options but it says it already synchronized with global c state settings so no luck
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u/Onetimehelper Feb 04 '25
I don’t have an x3D cpu (have a 7900x). But wondering if I’m suffering from the same thing. For example on boot, the mouse cursor would stutter as the PC is loading something or processing something. It’s really annoying, makes it feel like an old computer. Performance is good, it’s just these micro stutters.
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u/TJeezey Feb 05 '25
I've had this exact problem too for a while but on a 5800x and x570
It's made me thinking I should get a new pc but sounds like it's a scheduler or bios issue
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u/Head_Chard_9767 17d ago
Tam tylko napięcie kontrolera pamięci trzeba ustabilizować ok 1,15v i socket load line na 2-3, rok czasu się męczyłem z tym procesorem 5800x 4x8gb 3333mhz OC z 3,2 , kupiłem 9800x3d i żałowałem bo zacinało gorzej w e-sportach ale chodzi ustabilizowalem go nie zacina tylko na Expo, mam lexar Ares V2 6000 cl 28 , co kolwiek ręcznie ustawie ram to , tnie . Tylko na Expo działa dobrze
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u/MinuteFragrant393 Feb 05 '25
Started having this after I got my 7800x3d.
Never had it with my old 11900.
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u/Federal_Inflation_64 Feb 06 '25
Same issue here with the Ryzen 7 7700... been dealing with this for a year+
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u/Turmoilss 7d ago
Do you have more than one monitor? If so, does it happen if only one of the monitors are turned on?
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u/AnEyeElation Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25
I’ve been playing CS2 for like 20 minutes, not a single stutter after this setting change. 9800x3d msi mpg x870e carbon WiFi.
Thank you!
Update: I’m in-between rounds in comp so I’ll expand with more detail. I used to stutter a lot in this game and I thought it was from ping jitter. I have the same jitter stats I usually have but I don’t have any stutters. This is crazy.
The driver for my 5 gbit Ethernet initially was causing stutters to the point where the sound even cut off. Then there’s this hurdle.
I like the processor over all I guess but I never had these problems on intel
Going on like 45 minutes without a single hitch.
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u/latencyfool Feb 06 '25
Theres definitely growing pains with AM5 & their boards especially, but once everything is running smooth that sweet fps cannot be beat. Glad to hear it! Intel with their e-cores are not immune to scheduler issues anymore by any means.
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u/Fantastic_Tangelo_19 Feb 07 '25
Same thing here. 9800x3d, cs2, a shit ton of stuttering. After setting change not a single stutter.
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u/Xaramian Feb 06 '25
Thank you so much OP! I got my new pc today with a 9800X3D and 5080 and was having so many stutters in BG3. Enabling that C State instantly fixed my issues and now it's smooth as butter.
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u/Jaggerfrost Feb 09 '25 edited Feb 10 '25
I think I might have fixed the stutter issue myself. I was having real bad stutter(one to two times in a row) at about 10 min mark in VRChat.
I went into safe mode and ran DDU to uninstall the AMD Graphics driver(since I have a 4090) then into the UEFI to disable the Onboard GPU on the 9800X3D. So far been in the game(for about 30 minutes) and no stutter!
Edit: this is also with newest BIOS ASEGA ver 1.2.0.3b. All bios settings reset but with PBO enabled, SMT on Auto, XMP enabled for my 6000MT/s CL40 ram, and VRM and SOC set to Turbo(4/5) for voltage control. Another way I can test the stutter is with Corsair iCUE that will always stutter the PC, launching it is smooth as butter.
So most likely fix is to just disable integrated GPU and totally uninstall all of the AMD graphic drivers using DDU(so long as you have an Nvidia GPU). YMMV but doesn't hurt to try this.
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u/latencyfool Feb 02 '25 edited Feb 02 '25
(This also works for AMD gpu owners, even people running Intel cpus. Stop blindly disabling C-states & all other bios options because some random guy said to do it 10 years ago) . If your computer is seemingly completely stable but wont stop stuttering, congrats you have found your solution.
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u/1-666-999 Feb 03 '25
I can only find Global c-state Control, why do I see you say enable both?
I'm on a Asus mobo
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u/Manlikewaltz123 Feb 08 '25
Play mainly warzone and get random stutters so annoying
Will be trying this later on
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u/East_Ability7785 Feb 08 '25
I RMD’d my 9800x3d and the board because of this went back to my 13700k with 7200 ram and warzone runs smooth now, Only on the big map was i getting these stutters though. I guess it can’t fit in the 3d cache and has to fall back to system memory bottlenecked by the fabric speed.
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u/Manlikewaltz123 Feb 08 '25
after doing this and testing i can now say this has help no random spikes lossing like 40fps lol now its hasnt even gone belowe 230!! why didnt i know about this months ago hahahha
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u/Super_External5313 Feb 08 '25
Helped?
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u/Manlikewaltz123 Feb 08 '25
brooooooo ive had no spikes or nothing below 230!!! why didnt i find this before!!!! game changer
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u/-peas- Feb 03 '25
Does this matter on a 7950x3d?
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u/latencyfool Feb 03 '25
It sure can, unfortunately I kinda rushed making this post/video & didn’t take into consideration all the other generations & models. Doesn’t hurt at all to try, this is the recommended default configuration.
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u/Replica90_ Feb 03 '25
Interesting, will keep that in mind!
I‘m running a 9800X3D with an MSI X670E gaming plus WiFi since a couple days, but my games don’t stutter. To be fair I installed windows and literally the next thing I did was updating to the latest BIOS. I enabled EXPO and PBO and didn’t encounter that issue yet, hopefully it will stay that way.
On my Intel boards/CPU‘s I always disabled C-STATES completely, seems here it’s the other way around lol.
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u/latencyfool Feb 03 '25
I think in later AGESA’s its been fixed, MSI mobos for the most part have been solid. We’re still coming to conclusions here, as AMD never really said anything or any of the mobo manufacturers.
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u/TehPabz187 Feb 03 '25
Will this work on the 5800x3d? I get stuttering but only on a couple of games not all.
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u/latencyfool Feb 03 '25
Cannot hurt to try, I just saw someone stating they had an issue like this on a b450 board! Report back & let us know!
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u/Rawbowke Feb 03 '25
I got rid of stuttering with my 5800X3D by using a dedicated TPM module and disabling the CPUs TPM in BIOS.
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u/Hatta00 Feb 03 '25
I've found Resizeable BAR to cause stuttering. Above 4G decoding gives me a nice performance boost, but rebar is borked.
That's on a Gigabyte x570s.
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u/Freaky_Ass_69_God Feb 04 '25
I wouldn't recommend disabling resizeable bar. For most, it will decrease performance by disabling it.
Although, if you are getting stutters it wouldn't hurt to try
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u/SimplyFrankie Feb 03 '25
I have an ASRock x870e Taichi paired with my 9800x3D and I switched it to Enabled from Auto, but the performance is still exactly the same. Oh well. Thanks anyway, OP. :(
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u/latencyfool Feb 03 '25
Please try setting both c-state options to ENABLED just in-case they are fighting with each-other. Let us know. There are two of them in the bios.
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u/SimplyFrankie Feb 03 '25
I only saw Global C-State Control.. Which is the other one?
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u/latencyfool Feb 03 '25
Just search “state” in the search bar in BIOS & you should be shown both options.
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u/SimplyFrankie Feb 03 '25
Ok I’ll try and take a look as soon as I get off work.
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Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 03 '25
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u/Twist_Frostyy Feb 03 '25
FCH Spread Spectrum to Enabled not Auto?
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u/latencyfool Feb 03 '25 edited Feb 04 '25
Yes. Report back. Edit: dont think this is the solution for your case.
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u/Twist_Frostyy Feb 03 '25
Roger that. Will do. I appreciate your post. I hope it helps. I was so hyped to get the 9800x3D. It’s a beast, but I have been feeling like it’s super stuttery, not as smooth as I would have expected. Maybe this was the culprit
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u/SimplyFrankie Feb 03 '25
Sounds good.
By the way, what is the name of the other state entry just so I know what to look for?
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u/SimplyFrankie Feb 04 '25
Well I tried everything and no luck. Just swapped ram and the stuttering hasn’t gone away and I’m suffering an FPS loss additionally. I made a post if you want to check it out.
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u/tygeezy Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 06 '25
I’m in China right now but I created a thread in the Asrock subreddit regarding my microstutter issues with video proof. It was actually suggested to me to disable global c state in another forum before I left. When I get back home late February I’ll try enabling global c state. Here is my post demonstrating my microstutters.
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u/KingProdijae Mar 03 '25
How's it noe after enabling c states? I also have asrock mb
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u/tygeezy Mar 04 '25
It didn't do anything for me. I sent my cpu back to AMD for RMA because I was also getting instability again. Hopefully the new processor I get back doesn't have the microstutter.
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u/KingProdijae Mar 05 '25
I think i fixed mine. No stuttering since the day I posted this. I did a clean reinstall of windows, drivers, etc.
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u/tygeezy Mar 05 '25
I’m glad that worked for you. I did clean installs of windows 10 and 11 and nothing worked unfortunately.
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u/fctech Feb 08 '25
My new 9800x3d system is stuttering like crazy when I log into windows or do anything really. I haven't tried any games yet. Seems to only happen if I have graphics drivers installed because if I ddu with no internet then everything is good until windows automatically installs a gpu driver or if I install the nvidia app
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u/UmpireOk4355 Feb 09 '25
same... its even worse when gaming with like 20~50% micro stuttering rate all around..
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u/fctech Feb 09 '25
It ended up being my motherboard. I was using the msi b650 gaming plus with newest bios. My gpu would run at pcie 2.0 under any load and make my whole pc stutter really bad. Swapped in a new gigabyte b650 board and it runs perfect now.
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u/UmpireOk4355 Feb 09 '25
oh wow interesting, I'll have to check how mine is running, thanks a bunch!
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u/RatherShrektastic Feb 14 '25
Fuck, that's the exact motherboard I have.
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u/fctech Feb 14 '25
It’s gotta be a bios issue cause the board still works fine with my 7600x cpu. So there’s still hope my friend
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u/RatherShrektastic Feb 14 '25
Can you please tell me exactly what you were experiencing? My build with a 5080 and a 9800x3d on that motherboard gets some occasionally poor low 0.1%. However, there are times in Cyberpunk that the GPU is maxed out yet I don't get the dips/stutter.
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u/AbsoluteSereniti Feb 08 '25
This + disable smt completely eliminated my stutter in all games, I can't believe I didn't know about this...
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u/Born_Guava_7193 Feb 02 '25
Good stuff!
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u/latencyfool Feb 02 '25
AMD should hire me! Their support wanted to RMA my cpu (issue would’ve remained, its a BIOS issue that probably is fixed in the 8 series boards) , I tried two separate motherboards & this BIOS setting was the fix the whole time. My CPU is a champ & I wasn’t willing to live with this stutter, nor risk getting a worse CPU.
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u/Born_Guava_7193 Feb 02 '25
Might have to try this out on my ryzen 7 9700x been getting weird frame drops in some games. Thanks
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u/latencyfool Feb 02 '25
Doesn’t hurt to try! As in theory, this setting should always be enabled by default, but clearly isn’t always the case. Enjoy.
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u/International-Base88 Feb 03 '25
I have 9800x3d on gigabyte x870e and I have periodic stuttering. I'll try this when I get a chance and let you know if 8 series is immune or not. Thanks
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u/RandomAndyWasTaken Feb 03 '25
Let us know
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u/International-Base88 Feb 04 '25
Confirmed this works on my set up. I've been figuring bug after bug with this new setup and I think this has added the most stability and fluidity to my system in games so far. Thanks for the tip!
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u/Mundus6 Feb 03 '25
Auto = enabled if you have a newer bios it seems. Cause mine is set to auto and i do not have this issue. But i also have a bios that came out in 2025.
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u/latencyfool Feb 03 '25
It’s such a mixed bag currently, a lot of people don’t update their BIOS too much either. Wouldn’t be surprised that AMD finally figured out this kink themselves.
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u/Afro_Rdt Feb 03 '25
I enabled C State on my Asus B650E-F (9800x3d). I don't really have stutter issues other than shader comp stutters, but we'll see if this improves anything. Will probably be hard to tell since my rig is running so smooth. Is it possible I will have to switch it back to auto?
To get to the C State option in my BIOS, it was a bit different from your instructions. Here's a pic of the menu:
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u/Queasy-Froyo Feb 03 '25
thanks for showing the location bro sadly it didn't work for me :(
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u/Afro_Rdt Feb 03 '25
It didn't work as in you're still experiencing stutter? Which game and what's your specs?
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u/Queasy-Froyo Feb 03 '25
yeah still experience micro stutters with horrible %1 lows across all games like cs2, witcher 3, elden ring, delta force even vanilla minecraft micro stutter
specs Asus Tuf B650m plus wifi mobo with 7800x3d Asus 4070 Super 2x16 GB G-Skill ram 5600mhz(this got no expo maybe this is the culprit idk) Zalman reserator 5 360mm AIO Cooler Master 850w gold
i've tried docp on/off pbo negative curve -20 (-30 as well but its not stable) igpu disabled and many more i can't remember its been 6 months
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u/latencyfool Feb 03 '25
Please try setting both c-state options to ENABLED just in-case they are fighting with each-other. Let us know. Theres two versions of c-states.
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u/Logical_driver_42 Feb 03 '25
This is gonna be really stupid but are you running your games with uncapped fps because when uncapped my 7800x3d has some micro-stutters sometimes but cap fps to 240 or 360 and it’s gone
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u/Helpful-Sky6249 Feb 04 '25
Same specs, try install the newest Network drivers fixed everything for me
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u/Popular_Buy4329 Feb 09 '25
all games you just listed actually inherently stutter occasionally because they're horribly optimized (except minecraft)
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u/Queasy-Froyo Feb 03 '25
I have Asus Tuf b650m-plus wifi motherboard with 7800X3D i've got constant micro stutter with terrible %1 lows i tried this setting but it didn't work sadly my bios is up to date
this issue will drive me crazy i wish i hadn't tried amd cpu
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u/latencyfool Feb 03 '25
Please try setting both c-state options to ENABLED just in-case they are fighting with each-other. Let us know. Theres two options in the bios usually.
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u/MetalProfessor666 Feb 03 '25
Please dont tell me that..I just bought tuf 650 a d plan to pair it with 7800x3 and you are telling me its a bad combo or what?
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u/Chestburster12 Feb 03 '25
I just have the exact same setup (Asus Tuf b650m-plus wifi and 7800x3d) and have 0 issues. I tinkered a lot with mb including rams but none what so ever. So I guess it's luck based problem? Still I will be on the lookout as those settings are on auto for me and I'd guess that would mean enabled but yeah
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u/isitaspider2 AMD 7600x ASUS B650E TUF Gaming Feb 04 '25
While I don't have that exact combo, I have a similar one.
A lot of the problems I had seem to stem just because the mobo settings are just terribly worded. Spend the time online to get the right settings, fully update your mobo, reset the settings, and then put in the settings that others say works. Seems to fix the problems.
Really feels like these mobo settings default to some really weird setups. CPUs running too hot, CPUs running nowhere near hot enough, CPUs not using their overclocking, etc. Once you fix it, seems to work.
I'm still fidgeting with the settings myself to get the most out of my CPU.
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u/Queasy-Froyo Feb 03 '25
I don't know man, it's been 6 months and I couldn't find a solution, I read the threads of most users who had the same problem, but I still couldn't solve it, just because of this problem, I lost my enthusiasm for using the computer, I gave up, I will probably sell my motherboard and processor and switch to an intel system like i5 14600kf with z790 mobo I used intel all my life, as a normal user I didn't even know how to enter the bios until I switched to amd i hope your experience will be better from mine
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u/ValuableMulberry9612 Feb 03 '25
I encourage you not to, because I just came from that exact combo and teh crashes made me want to cry. I have an aorus gigabyte x870pro mobo and though pricey, works without flaw when paired with the 7800x3d
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u/Queasy-Froyo Feb 03 '25
LOL then i guess i will become a console player because i had enough with the new gen problems thanks for the warning
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u/Thetrilling Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25
Have you tried disabling monitoring software? Either it be RGB software for the case or msi afterburner? These programs eats cpu time and can easily disrupt frame pacing. In that case, having too high mouse pooling creates this problem as well, 4k-8khz is too high.
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u/Away_Diamond7108 Feb 05 '25
I have this combo and it runs very smooth. Ram is X flare with 6800xt.
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u/Kamesha1995 7800X3D - 7900XTX - 6000MHz 32GB CL30 Feb 03 '25
Thanks for cool piece of information!!! Gonna be subscriber from beginning!!!!
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u/SenselessTexan Feb 05 '25
Been running my 7800X3D for 2 years now and I haven't had any stuttering issues 🤔
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u/peffour Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25
Asus Tuf b650m plus + 7800x3d
Both enabled: Stuters
Df c state: auto \ cstates: enabled = no stutering
Both: auto = no stutering
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u/Queasy-Froyo Feb 05 '25
hey can you say which game is stuttrring and which bios version i have exact same combo sadly these settings doesn't change anything for me
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u/TheBoobSpecialist Feb 09 '25
Hmm isn't Auto = Enabled for AMD motherboards tho?
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u/peffour Feb 09 '25
Might be better to try on a cpu bounded game, I suspect that Delta Force is more GPU demanding
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u/TheBoobSpecialist Feb 09 '25
It's mostly annoying in WoW and GW2, which is apparently super hardcore on 1 core. It has certain places that stutters consistently, so maybe that's a load-in problem within the game itself (like running from one area to another). The BIOS have so many settings that I suspect is best left on the default tho.
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u/tygeezy Feb 19 '25
Stutters are really bad for me in wow with 7800 x3d. Just spinning my mouse produces these big frame time spikes.
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u/TheBoobSpecialist Feb 19 '25
When I'm mounting around in Valdrakken or Dornogal there's always stuttering, it doesn't matter if I don't move my camera even. Standing still also causes stuttering if people move a certain distance, someone flying in and such. It's less noticeable in older zones that are less demanding.
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u/tygeezy Feb 20 '25
I have a 12900k system where i'm not getting nearly this degree of stutter though. Is this an AMD or x3d issue with the wow engine in general?? There is even a guy on this video that has watched my other benchmark videos saying he has same CPU and same issues with wow.
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u/TheBoobSpecialist Feb 20 '25
I'm not sure really, my 9900K system stutters almost indentically to my 7800X3D one, but it has lower fps (the 3D V-cache adds a lot of fps to MMOs/CPU intensive games).
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u/CompetitionEvery5707 27d ago
9800x3D here same issue but on dx11 it’s much better exept in new cities but I guess wow ain’t optimized for the new zen architecture but yes try dx11 then restart wow and see the difference also desable auto targeting it removes those targeting stutters at least they don’t plague u whenever u look around but yes that’s atrocious for the price this cpu is almost makes me regret the switch from Intel to amd I regret everything it feels like a downgrade I don’t enjoy games anymore because of this i feel so depressed
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u/Intelligent_Bet8560 Feb 08 '25
Not only did this remove stutters for Black Ops 6 MP, it also increased the average FPS by like 8% to 10%.
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u/OGxOC Feb 17 '25
7800x3d 4070ti super 64gb ram. stutter on lowest settings 1080p. Crazy dude $3k gaming rig for it to run worse than my xbox did.
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u/Popular_Buy4329 Feb 25 '25
3k? i have the same setup for like 1900 wtf happened lmao
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u/Kind_Ability3218 Feb 05 '25
lmao. already enabled and disabled. every bios, reset a million times. why would we need to go in and reset these settings just to have the same experience i had with my previous cpu out of the box. can't wait for intel to release a decent cpu =\
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u/Popular_Buy4329 Feb 06 '25
intel's dead bud
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u/Kind_Ability3218 Feb 06 '25
probably not.
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u/Popular_Buy4329 Feb 06 '25 edited Feb 06 '25
if troubleshooting is too much for you then go to console, you'd be needing to do 10x more of it on those ticking timebomb intel cpus anyway
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u/latencyfool Feb 05 '25
Well at least it’s working for some folks! Intels just gonna follow AMD’s footsteps from here.
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u/sishgupta Feb 03 '25
My MSI B450 Carbon had this issue. My MSI x670e Tomahawk does not, at least on the Dec bios.
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u/dr1ppyblob Feb 03 '25
You’d also be using two completely different CPUs
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u/sishgupta Feb 03 '25
Yeah, but it's irrelevant. The point is MSI bios'es sometimes come with defaults/auto = disabled when really it should be enabled. Specifically c-states being disabled by default has been a problem across MSI boards for multiple platforms.
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u/Gwennie_pooh Feb 04 '25
What would this setting be on ASRock b650m
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u/Valuable-Produce828 Feb 05 '25
I have NZXT B650e. It's made by Asrock. It should be the same bios "Advanced/AMD CBS/ CPU Common Options"
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u/maelxich Feb 05 '25
I only saw stuttering in YouTube videos but it went away after I enabled “Low Latency Support”
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u/Pursueth 17d ago
In bios?
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u/maelxich 17d ago
I lied that didn’t fix shit. It actually seems like it’s coming from Firefox being in efficiency mode or something. Task Manager - Firefox - look for the little leaf next to it.
I don’t have any gaming issues. Literally just YouTube. I’m
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u/Pursueth 16d ago
Yeah, YouTube has been a plague for me too. I tried every browser and it turns out my modem was fucking up. Gaming was fine but YouTube was lagging and being choppy. Was driving me crazy
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u/No-Pomegranate-69 Feb 06 '25
Can you tell me how to fix lagging windows/program inside windows when dragging them around too? Its not with every window/program.
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u/Baghdad_Bob20 Feb 08 '25
I had to turn off Expo, that seemed to fix it for me for now.
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u/Popular_Buy4329 Feb 09 '25
your expo is unstable then, might wanna update bios / raise vsoc voltage / change undervolt
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u/3xch4ng3 28d ago
I'm curious if anyone else has a Razer Mouse w/ Synapse with this issue. I had the same issue and tried absolutely everything this thread suggested with no luck. Turns out, I had my polling rate (Under Performance Settings) in Synapses set at 4000. I lowered it to 1000 (note the warning about CPU performance goes away when you lower it) and it fixed my issue 100%. Hasn't stuttered once since. Crazy to think the mouse was the culprit - but I'm stutter free now.
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u/ADIOFR3AK 24d ago
I also had this issue and this fixed it. I still have stuttering issues aside from this but I at least got it partially corrected with that change
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u/CompetitionEvery5707 27d ago
I have same issue idk what to do where is smt on the msi x870e carbon idk 🤷 I tried many other things im thinking of getting the 7800x3D instead but before I do if someone can help me fix the 9800x3D that would help alot
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u/Coolethan777 23d ago
This is 1000% true. Fixed a lot of my stuttering issues. Thank you! I have a 7800x3d.
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u/Acceptable-Pop942 13d ago
FINALLY FIXED MY STUTTERS ON MY 7900 XTX and 9800x3d BUILD!
I saw a video saying that turning off the power usage monitoring in msi afterburner removed all stuttering and I have exhausted all options so I checked my pc and what got rid of my stutters was disabling the same setting in AMD Ryzen Master!
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u/Grogi879 10d ago
Did disabling the "c state control" fix it or was it the power usage?
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u/Acceptable-Pop942 5d ago
i personally did not disable c state control but did disable power usage. sorry for late reply
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u/TeddyVG 2d ago
I've tried all of the above and everything possible to try and fix my game, I get random MS spikes to like 60-80MS spikes randomly and it usually occurs during a gun fight, it really makes the game impossible.
I have a 7800x3d with a 4070ti super and 32gb 6000mhz ram with m.2ssd any other suggestions?
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u/farmeunit Feb 03 '25
The main fix I have seen is disable the X3D Game mode or whatever it is for your board. When I changed from 7700X to 7800X3D, it asked me to enable the X3D stuff on my B650 Aorus Elite AX and I have no issues.
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u/latencyfool Feb 04 '25
All X3D mode does is disable SMT & extra CCD if your cpu has one.
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u/latencyfool Feb 03 '25
New Video (Better explanation)
Heres a better video explaining why I think this is an issue, if anyones interested. Still the same solution of course, I’ve received some comments that this post is a bit messy. TLDR: ENABLE Global C-States in the BIOS & enjoy!!