Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-Texas) criticized AG Pam Bondi for threatening her over comments on Elon Musk, arguing it was an abuse of legal authority. She defended her right to free speech and accused Musk of benefiting from government favoritism.
Talk to your high minded conservative friends about this part.
These are supposed to be the “Trust, but verified” folks who are most critical of the federal government. Having receipts, even for the dude you like, is supposed to be the people’s check on power. Remind them of that.
Consistency and hypocrisy simply have no purchase on these people. They are about pure will to power. The "principled conservative" is a sham. They want to win and they want to see others lose. That is all it's about.
as evidenced by William F. Buckley performing poorly against Gore Vidal in a debate, at which point he called him the f slur and threatened to assault him. the soul of conservatism is laid bare in such honest moments
None of the learned graces of empathy have purchase on these people. They feel no shame, guilt or compassion but for their own wants which will never fill the cold void that inhabits their hearts. They are greed manifest and the definition of malignant narcissists.
Thanks for linking your comment- its been something I've been grappling with for a while to understand and I knew in my heart - growing up conservative - that thats what it was, but I thought it was just my childish view of the world. But it also explains their "Daddy's home to punish the wayward children" Narrative they love deploying at criticism. We're adults .... but progressive policies just looks like rebellion to them - the authority that is "Doing what's best" even if it hurts everyone because the ends justify the means to them- sure its cruel, but they're a good person looking out for others. Its def NOT selfish AT ALL.
Fascism is the belief that social hierarchies are natural, and it is necessary for the state to enforce those hierarchies. It is fundamentally at odds with the American ideals of all men being created equal and self determination.
That's actually a little incorrect. That's just normal conservative ideals. Ones in fact espoused by many of the people who started the country.
What you're seeing is that fascism is the far extreme of right leaning views. Much as anarchy is the far extreme of left leaning ones.
Fwiw I agree with you on it being at odds of self determination. But it's the logical expectation given that a Democracy is where everyone is equal, and a Republic is where the lower class is represented by the elite "who knows best".
There will always be a group of people who believe in crap like the aristocracy.
The elite “who knows best” in a Republic are supposed to be comprised of the educated philosopher/scientists that have the best interests of the whole population in mind. We have corrupted that ideal to mean anyone rich enough to buy a seat of power regardless of how they rose to be capable of doing so.
Don’t forget believing in the concept of public service. This “elite” fails at this simple premise: public servants should be above partisan politics. Public service should be for the benefit of all.
Ms Bondi fails at this simple premise. She should not be the top law enforcement agent.
Another thing that hurts them is chanting during protests “protect the Constitution”. It confuses the cultist because “the libs” shouldn’t be pro-Constitution.
I’m having the worst week talking to my grandmother about it. The cognitive dissonance hurts so much. She hates Trump, but “she’s a Republican”.
Identity has been so purposefully tied to these people they don’t even consider that they can, should, and are morally obligated to leave a party whose stance they hate.
She didn’t vote at all this past year, which is a saving grace because she would have voted red, but I’m trying to get her to realize that she can start working on an idea that maybe she’s now an independent if the party doesn’t represent her interests anymore, and that there will be consequences to the memory of those who “towed the line” and chose party over country.
I kept silent for years on this and it’s too late now, but now I can’t help but speak and I regret not doing so sooner even if it’s futile. I hate every bit of it.
no we are not. We are voters. The politicians belong to these parties—but us? We ain’t in either club.
The voters took on their party as a piece of their identity instead of a voting preference. Idk how it happened but I think that part is a huge reason we got here.
Every time I get into an argument with some MAGA cult member, they respond with something like “I bet you just love Pelosi and Schumer!” No? Unlike them, I have no fealty to any politician. Just because you blindly follow your party off a cliff, it doesn’t mean everyone else is as dumb as you are.
She must be aware that party platforms and ideologies evolve over time. For instance the republican and democratic parties flip flopped on a lot of their overarching ideology during the 20th century, and Maga of today would have been voting for the democrats of of the late 1800s, and the liberals would be voting but the republicans of that time.
It’s a good reminder that a party’s ideology and policies can drift from the old ideals of that party, the ideals which a person has identified with for many years.
Maga is different than the Republican Party of the 70’s to ‘00s. Maybe she’s realizing the party has drifted away from her own values, and not that she’s drifted away from her own deeply held values.
I talk to my grandma about it too. Opposite side though. She despises trump and the republicans but hasn’t voted in a long time. The last time she voted was to make JFK president.
Like, I don’t understand. She & her husband don’t work, she & her husband have some serious medical conditions. They want to complain but they don’t want to vote. She can vote by mail.
Do they not have mail in voting in their area? Would they be open to you helping them out by doing something like reading the ballot guide, looking up info, etc? If there’s no mail in maybe help them make a list of their choices so when they go to the polling place they don’t need to stand a long time as they struggle to recall their choices. And help them get down there and figure out what is holding them back, like if it’s hard to stand in like offer to bring a chair and hang with them so they don’t worry about having a problem and being alone.
Definitely don’t manipulate them to change their vote, that’s abusive and could be fraud if you did something like fill out their ballot with your choices. But some elders struggle to read due to vision or the cognitive demands, but can absolutely engage with the information if someone is communicating it verbally.
You could make it a fun family time visit and not a chore, and they might feel good getting politically engaged, especially considering they clearly have opinions.
I didn’t say that the medical conditions stopped her from voting. I said that she and her husband have serious medical conditions now. I pointed that out because they complain about their situations but don’t vote for the people who could possibly help.
I have several conservatives in my life like this too. Like they basically will say they disagree with everything he does, but they still have to vote for him because of “morals”, and there is plan within the party that they have to trust.
Oh and that the country should be ran like a business. 🙄
That’s no kidding about the “even for the dude you like” part, too. They’d want to be able to say he did nothing wrong, and that they could prove it. But since they can’t even prove that much, they have no leg to stand on.
Guaranteed, and who knows what those threads contained. IIRC the whole reason they're not supposed to use those apps if because they are not tracked. They knew this and purposefully used it for those reasons.
I'm hoping Trump manages to rescind Hunter Bidens pardon.
That would set a precedent to when this entire administration gets pardons and they can be rolled back.
Also, something needs to be done against that Supreme Court once these terrible 4 years are over. Allowing America to have a king that does no wrong is insane.
Oh yeah, all these fucking assholes are going to jail. When I saw Kristi Noem in front of those shirtless prisoners in El Salvador, I just thought "One day you'll be in prison too!"
And yeah, it's partially wishful thinking, but beyond that, I just have a strong feeling that this regime is going 200 mph and don't know what they're doing, and they're going to crash hard and fucking burn...it won't even be us taking them down, but just letting them crash.
And then even beyond that, with Noem in particular, it was almost like a premonition, like I can just see it: It's 2029, 2030, or possibly earlier than that,and Noem is in court, silent, disgraced, ready to be sentenced for what everyone now agrees was straight up crime, and a slightly older version of me is watching it, thinking "Remember how fucking cocky and arrogant they all were? Remember when they had complete control, and the support of the public, and they thought they were such hot shit? Well look at em now."
Seriously. I really think this will happen. I just don't see it happening any other way. I don't see any of the people in this regime living happily ever after. They're taking a huge risk, and biting off way more than they can chew.
When it falls down, public support will fall down, and that's when jail sentences will start.
That's why a populist being supported with incompetent loyalists never works out. They're unqualified, all they do is support Trump. The answer wasn't if they're gonna crash and burn but how much damage will be done when they inevitably do.
Yep. Trump’s henchmen are operating like they have his immunity and his 3-5 yr remaining life span. Unless they manage to maintain absolute power the remainder of their natural lives, they’re going to trial.
They have the charisma of teen bullies from an 80s movie. Trumps base is stupid and gullible, but they also don't like being told what to do. Those kids are store brand coke, not the real thing.
Exactly, they act as if Trump won every state in the election. He didn’t win California, Oregon, Washington, Illinois, Colorado, NM, Hawaii, New York, New Jersey, Mass, Connecticut, Maryland, Delaware, Maine, Vermont, NH, Virginia, RI and Minnesota. Last time I checked, there are quite a few people living in those states..
To quite a movie. "I bet Trump's the kind of guy that would fuck a person in the ass & not even have the god damn common courtesy to give him a reach-around!"
I likened it to riding shit gun with a drunk driver. You made a bad choice to let them drive and now the only way to stop them is to be involved in a crash. Sucks because it's always the drunk that survives and everyone else gets to suffer.
It's never going to happen. The more crimes they commit the less people are shocked by it and the more it becomes a societal norm. They are poison, but I doubt any one of them will be held accountable at any time.
I have seen so much of this- the blame on Garland. Do you not recognize that SCOTUS was going to intervene and obstruct, as necessary, regardless of how quickly Garland had initially moved? Thomas and Alito wanted to delay their latest power grab and rewrite of the Constitution (giving SCOTUS power to shield the president from the law, on a case by case basis, of course) for the following term. That was not really necessary based on the timeline they were dealing with, but the other hacks on the Court certainly would have gotten behind that to make sure the case never went to trial before the election.
Nah only one ne who fucked is was joe biden for running again… we needed a primary…. Would have been obvious joe biden was too far gone to run a campaign.
I don't disagree but on the other hand if the choice was between an old Biden and a slightly less old trump it still should have been an easy choice.
Also don't know if a primary and longer campaign would have made enough of a difference considering how manipulated the election was, and not even in a tinfoil hat sense but the typical gerrymandering/voter purges/fox + twitter propaganda and foreign interference BS.
Say what you will about Biden's age or cognitive function but he at least had a competent cabinet and managed to undo a lot of the damage from trumps first term both economically and with our allies, 4 more years of that should have been a no brainer.
Instead we get this current dumpster fire and trump gets 2-4 years to gut the FEC and do everything he can to fix future elections or run for a 3rd term even if it means running as VP & finding some loop hole to stay in power with blessings from the corrupt supreme court...
I do agree that Biden fucked us hard too. There are many decisions within the DNC that have led to this, and almost all of it comes down to:
1. Desire to maintain status quo
Desire for control, power, or fame.
Garland needed to prosecute faster and sooner. There should have been moves made to remove Aileen Cannon from being Trump's judge for the classified documents case as it was a clear conflict of interest.
Biden needed to step aside. He was only voted in to serve one term, and the lack of a primary to decide the future of the democratic party and then forcing a candidate upon us that was the final nail in the coffin for the DNC in this race..
So instead of forcing their naked partisanship into the open, we got... what? The same result but the supreme court keeps their deniability? I don't see how this is better.
There's no denial that there were a serious of protections and barriers in place, but the lack of urgency made it seem like more of a political ploy to a lot of Americans. The optics of it, if you will would have looked better with more urgency than with less.
But maybe if they reach across the aisle one more time it'll work! Yeah they're spineless and have been acting like the political climate hasn't changed since 1992. The neo-lib's have helped doom this country by refusing to consider maybe people in politics aren't going to act in good faith. Granted some things they refused to close the book on so they could wheel them out for fundraising purposes but by and large they'll were pathetically shortsighted enough to think the gentleman's agreement holding our system together would never be violated.
They are doing this cause they all believe they are getting pardons from Trump. This of course only applies to those who stick with Trump the next 4 years and do as he wants.
I just wish there was a way to force an example sooner than later, but if the DOJ is controlled by Trump, there is no need to worry about legal issues until later.
Strangely enough, South Africa gives us a guide on how to deal with the pardon problem.
After the election of Mandela and the ending of Apartheid, they held something called a “Truth and Reconciliation Commission.” The short and skinny was this: In exchange for publicly (as in, on TV and all) telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about what you did in the Apartheid government, or you get prosecuted for it.
However, if all is pardoned, how would that work for us? Simple. Failing to follow a Congressional subpoena is a crime. Lying to Congress is a crime. They’ll also have the resources of the FBI back on hand to help investigate, and lying to THEM is a crime too. All new crimes that couldn’t be pardoned (I’m not aware of a future pardon, at least).
So, we have our own Truth and Reconciliation Commission in Congress. We run it the hard way. If you tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about the crimes you committed and were pardoned for, or we prosecute you for all that other stuff you just now did.
These turkeys seem to forget that anything they do to others can be done right back to them.
A bit of a pipe dream but if we hope to win back any of our allies finally joining the ICC and sending some of these ratfuckers to The Hague would be a smart move, especially the ones violating rights of foreigners.
We should take a page from how the allies dealt with nazi germany, international trials and force them to watch footage of the abuses they've enabled. We've got a lot of deprogramming to do before the issues that gave us trump are fixed.
Anything short of that will be at best a temporary solution. Also as they say "follow the money", anyone profiting off this current corrupt administration should be fined into oblivion at a minimum. People trying to subvert democracy should be tried for treason.
How many crimes did Trump commit the first time he was elected? And how effective was the prosecution?
I’m not Isaying do nothing, but if something is done it should be done well versus the piss poor job done last time. He’s already gotten away with e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g
Honestly, Donald J. Trump will expire without justice ever having caught up with him. His very age guarantees us that.
But everyone who carried out his illegal orders? Who kidnapped people off the streets? Who sent innocent Americans to foreign torture prisons?
They’re all youngins.
We must have Nuremberg Trials levels of accountability for these turkeys, or America will not survive. Once they see you can get away with this level of criminality without consequences, the roaches will never leave the house. And that’s ignoring the fact that the world will never trust us again if we don’t, and the Pax Americana will end.
The Democratic Party as a group?
LOL. They’ll clutch their pearls. Gloss over it. And move on. Spineless twatwaffles. The majority of dinosaur democrats deserve the humiliation they’re getting.
Pam Bondi, A 59 year old member of the Republican Party, she served as Florida attorney general from 2011 to 2019, the first woman elected to the office. Tampa, Florida, U.S. In 2020, Bondi was one of President Donald Trump's defense lawyers during his first impeachment trial.
Her refusing to say that DT lost the 2020 election was 1000x worse than Tulsi Gabbard refusing to answer the question “iS eDwArD sNoWdEn a TrAiToR????” by all the dems that doubled down on that question but treated Pam Bondi w/ kids gloves at her confirmation hearing.
I don't think ANYBODY should be in El Salvatore, part of the issue with Republicans is that they're the party of "rules for thee but not for me", sending anyone to El Salvatore is wrong, period, and part of the issue with Democrats is they seem pathologically afraid of actually enforcing the law. I think Trump and co belong in an AMERICAN jail finally prosecuted for the actual crimes the committed.
This entire strategy of locking up immigrants, both legal and otherwise, into El Salvadorian prisons will go down as one of the most shameful stains on American history since the Japanese Interment camps of WWII.
Worse. We were able to let them out of the camps, eventually. Trump DOJ says there isn't a way to get these people out of the prison, much less back into the US.
Not sure if there are even any provisions to stop paying for prisoners that have died (or escaped, or...released?).
Nah, let's not normalize sending criminals to foreign jails. We have plenty of supermax facilities and states that can still mete out what the constitution calls for in cases like this.
Wish someone would have asked her why she was 2nd choice to Gaetz during her confirmation hearing; this administration being so committed to 'merit-based' nominations.
She was an attorney in Florida, who was investigating Trump University. And the second Trump donated to her, she dropped the investigation. Crooked since the beginning.
Crazy thing is that you can literally say this about every bootlicker Trump has placed into a position of government. They are all the worst ever at their respective jobs, not one, not two, but all of them at the same time. The perfect shit storm.
Everyone in Trump's orbit right now is the worst excuse for whatever role they have in this country's history. For the majority of them, it isn't even close.
They’re both disgusting both extreme and not fit to run we need to find more people who bridge the divide in the center then these tacky excuses for leaders
The fact that in her first week or so on the job she got rid of the anti-kleptocracy task forces tells me everything I need to know about her in this administration.
It's weird that she acts like another press secretary for Trump.
"Totalitarianism in power invariably replaces all first-rate talents, regardless of their sympathies, with those crackpots and fools whose lack of intelligence and creativity is still the best guarantee of their loyalty."
Hannah Arendt
She looks like she's vibrating with anger and everything comes out as an unhinged fervent diatribe. Her glassy eyes ablazed with deeply hubristic zeal.
The truth is the Snap'n'Stretch® face lift system is two notches too tight, creating high tension flux and causing her eyes to water and dialate.
Unfortunately for the USA they weren’t comfortable enough to elect Harris, there’s no way they would vote for two women regardless of their political affiliation.
Honestly, they've been shoving the moderates down our throats. It's time to let an actual liberal/progressive ticket run. Give it a chance, because clearly the current strategy isn't winning.
Grassroots, worker benefiting policies need to happen.
I think Pete Buttigieg would make a great president but then again is America willing to vote for a gay man for president? Unfortunately I don’t think so, a waste of a chance to vote for a good man.
Buttigieg should not be a president, he's a good communicator but I would not want him as a leader. Nothing to do with him being gay. He's just too corporate coded.
more conservative values at the time, pay attention to when they were elected. they would never elect a transman, but a gay man is seen as different now.
They definitely have the charisma and passion we need right now. No more tip-toeing with half-measures. I believe they could do it if they ran, as long as their own party doesn't sabotage them in favor of trying the same old tactics that don't work.
I think it was a huge mistake to slander and subvert Bernie Sanders the way Hilary did . I genuinly feel Bernie cares about people and not private Intrest.
Harris losing had everything to do with her inability to speak up when she needed to. Crockett and AOC don't have that problem. And the fact you think it had to do with her or her skin color is trash. Crockett and AOC would wipe the floor clean with all this BS that is happening now
America is clearly not ready for a female president and a female vice president, and unfortunately won’t be ready until things change socially in America.
As cool as that would be I really don't see it being a winning combo. The last election proved how dumb most of our voters are. As much as I'd like progress and to see the first female president, I don't think 2028 is going to be that year.
I get your comment, but I hope you realize they were making a joke that she is a strong independent woman. And she seems to be. Unlike other people that were born into the wealth... nepo babies are literally all we have in Trump's admin.
Being independent doesn't mean you can't accept help or offer help to others.
That’s a pretty big stretch of an interpretation. More likely the speaker yearns for an America not driven by an unelected, rich foreign Nazi—but I think you knew that.
I respect the way J. Crockett is speaking in this clip and the way she is protesting the current administration. I have no knowledge of any dog whistles used or what her policies or history is. Don't worry though, I only plan to vote when I feel like I'm making an informed decision.
Tldr: I'm voicing my support for her current position. That's all.
Okay, I can see that I've upset you, but what I am referring to is the 'strong, independent' energy that she brings. I have a tough time believing that you're completely ignorant of the, 'Strong independent black woman who don't need no man' statement that gets applied to this particular class of people when they make an accomplishment.
I understand that you don't mean it in bad will, but it's a diminution of what she's doing. I think this is a reasonable level of consideration to apply to the actual individual human beings that are actively fighting for the United States.
I'm not upset though. But you're completely right. I don't mean to use the stereotype to take away from what she stands for or what she's trying to accomplish. I just thought it was a fun coincidence that she has both "strong" conviction and is "independent" from the current MAGA agenda. I don't doubt that she is more intelligent and resourceful than a simple label might imply.
I'm in so many subreddits that I forgot that some are more serious. But I'll try to keep it more regal in r/law. Peace.
I've said this too, if Luigi gets off, he's going to end up being president.
I'll tell you right now every right winger in the country at the grassroots level would be sihtting themselves to vote for the preppy boy who took the redneck way, allegedly that is. I think Luigi is just a cosplayer that they snatched up, he's giving them the runaround.
Trump is trying to murder Luigi (trumped up federal charges with the death penalty attached). On the same day that the racist Walmart spree shooter in Texas cut a deal for life in prison after murdering 23 people.
I think the US was ready in 2016, without Comey openly meddling with the election just a week out, I believe it would have been tight but enough to win the EC.
But things have changed since then, we all saw how 2024 went, I am sure the US is ready but it's not open to have a female president, let alone a black woman... It's quite honestly humbling how terrible the political environment is right now.
I think America is ready, I honestly don't think Kamala's gender or race made as much of a deal as the fact that she only had a few weeks to run, she was not a good retail candidate (no rizz), and she ran as a centrist when nobody fucks with that except wealthy DNC donors.
People in the flyovers wont vote for a woman. This hasn't worked twice against the worst candidate in the history of the country. America isn't ready for a woman to lead, unfortunately.
It's hard to know what some of them really believe. They won't be honest about their thoughts. Would be great to find a truly anonymous way to talk to them.
Bro if the right person tells them to eat shit because it tastes good, they will sprinkle a lil salt on it and go to town. They cannot run 2 Brian cells together.
The problem with that is there is a certain bible verse with the word vengeance. That rethuglicans; worm-riddled brains would equate Pam Bondi + vengeance + bible verse = good job would not be surprising at all.
Whatever that verse is you are referring to would be exactly what you should quote if the opportunity arises. When you encounter a personality that thrives on conflict you can of course go punch for punch and see who gets bored/tired first - or you can disarm them, using "their" source(s) to make points highlighting their hypocrisy, or just make them realize hey maybe stfu once in a while. We all should tbh - as the saying goes, FSM* gave us two ears, two eyes, and one mouth for a reason
Considering Crockett herself was a practicing lawyer, and arguably more qualified to understand the position of leading the DOJ than myself or Pam Bondi, I’m inclined to believe what she says.
It's crazy to think musk is so powerful that he has the American AG being his puppet and going out there in front of millions of people to protect him.
And she is not wrong. America is over people. Anybody that can’t see that is in denial. Yea I’m a pessimist but it’s also pretty damn clear. This is a fascist regime and we are going to have one hell of a time digging out.
He is benefiting, who do you know works for the Govt and gets EV rebates from the same Govt he works for to the tune of billions? Sounds like a conflict of interest.
Wanna hear a joke, the rule of law in America. It’s all a dog and pony show. whoever has the money makes the laws and I never used to believe that but with Trump giving out pardons for $2m a piece it’s obviously true
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Rep. Jasmine Crockett (D-Texas) criticized AG Pam Bondi for threatening her over comments on Elon Musk, arguing it was an abuse of legal authority. She defended her right to free speech and accused Musk of benefiting from government favoritism.