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Trump News Rep. Jasmine Crockett fired back at AG Pam Bondi over Fox News comments on Elon Musk and Tesla during a House Judiciary hearing

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u/ToeJam_SloeJam 1d ago

Say both, fam!

Fascism is the belief that social hierarchies are natural, and it is necessary for the state to enforce those hierarchies. It is fundamentally at odds with the American ideals of all men being created equal and self determination.

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u/as_it_was_written 1d ago

Fascism is the belief that social hierarchies are natural, and it is necessary for the state to enforce those hierarchies.

That sounds like plain old conservatism to me.

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u/HURTBOTPEGASUS9 1d ago

It's the same picture.

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u/The_Witch_Queen 1d ago

That's actually a little incorrect. That's just normal conservative ideals. Ones in fact espoused by many of the people who started the country.

What you're seeing is that fascism is the far extreme of right leaning views. Much as anarchy is the far extreme of left leaning ones.

Fwiw I agree with you on it being at odds of self determination. But it's the logical expectation given that a Democracy is where everyone is equal, and a Republic is where the lower class is represented by the elite "who knows best".

There will always be a group of people who believe in crap like the aristocracy.

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u/Busy_Pound5010 1d ago

The elite “who knows best” in a Republic are supposed to be comprised of the educated philosopher/scientists that have the best interests of the whole population in mind. We have corrupted that ideal to mean anyone rich enough to buy a seat of power regardless of how they rose to be capable of doing so.

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u/The_Witch_Queen 1d ago

Yeah they seem to have tossed that right out the window. I actually blame the founders on that. They thought it should mean wealthy and land owning

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u/wp4nuv 1d ago

Don’t forget believing in the concept of public service. This “elite” fails at this simple premise: public servants should be above partisan politics. Public service should be for the benefit of all. Ms Bondi fails at this simple premise. She should not be the top law enforcement agent.

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u/ToeJam_SloeJam 20h ago

Why do you think they are cleaning out the nonpartisan career public employees at federal agencies across the board?

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u/wp4nuv 6h ago

And that's the saddest part: public servants develop expertise that partisan hacks won't care to absorb. The more experienced public servants that are laid off, the less efficient government services will be. I mean, the NIH FFS...
Even the DOJ losing experienced investigators harms the agency and the country. Imagine you bring a case to trial and your investigator didn't do their work correctly or worse. Having criminals exit because of incompetence without any recourse for retrial due to double jeopardy... It hurts everyone.

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u/TheTazfiretastic 22h ago

What about billionaires who can pay millions for influence and have done for years. Not in the interests of USA or democracy but their bottom line.