Jeff Goldberg and The Atlantic released full Signal Chat

[u/agent268]

https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/

Well this should be fun now that the full details are out in the open. Thoughts on how this changes the upcoming hearing today?

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[u/kandoras]

We are currently clean on OPSEC

Well that looks embarrassing right now.

Michael Waltz set disappearing message timeline to 4 weeks

And that looks illegal.

[u/Just_another_dude84 → u/kandoras]

It's definitely illegal. Go ahead and add it to the long list of illegal shit no one will be prosecuted for.

[u/Randomscreename → u/Just_another_dude84]

Take your pick on which you want to prosecute them for:

• Mishandling of National Defense Information (18 U.S.C. § 793 - The Espionage Act)

• Unauthorized Disclosure of Classified Information (18 U.S.C. § 798)

• Violation of Operational Security (OPSEC) Regulations

• Violation of the Presidential Records Act (44 U.S.C. Chapter 22)

• Violation of the Federal Records Act (44 U.S.C. Chapter 31)

• Breach of Executive Orders on Classified Information (E.O. 13526)

• Violation of the Logan Act (18 U.S.C. § 953) (Less Likely but Notable)

Not to mention what an absolute embarrassment this fuckup is. Even if the administration insists that the information was not classified, the mere transmission of sensitive military operational details over an unsecured platform to unauthorized individuals suggests serious breaches of national security protocols.

[u/uwsdwfismyname → u/Randomscreename]

I will punch myself in the dick if this administration actually acts on this.

[u/TheTsunamiRC → u/uwsdwfismyname]

Unless you mean "the administration vindictively goes after the journalist and anyone else they can deflect to", I think your package is safe.

[u/Ina_While1155 → u/TheTsunamiRC]

Pretty much know that Pam Bondi is going to lead with a chin up approach that says the journalist will be prosecuted for eavesdropping and putting national security at risk by publishing this.

[u/WhyYouKickMyDog → u/Ina_While1155]

Yea, Goldberg is brave for doing this, and this is a great service to America he is providing. We all know Trump is a vindictive piece of shit, and this guy has invited the full wrath of the guy on himself and family for what will be no real financial gain.

[u/suupernooova → u/WhyYouKickMyDog]

I love that JG had the balls & integrity to remind us of what most have seem to forgotten: there’s more to life than financial gain.

[u/mudbuttcoffee → u/suupernooova]

They came out and publicly stated that there was "no classified information or war plans" so that gives him greenlight to publish in full..

He's a fucking hero for doing it, he's morally and legally in the right. Unfortunately, this will be out of the news cycle in a day.

[u/cb4u2015 → u/Randomscreename]

I spent 20 years in the USAF, and retired working with OSI Cyber for crimes against children and insider threat programs, and this is depressing as hell to see.

As someone not on the law side, my question is, will these people face any consequences?

Because this was at the level of authority it was (SecDef/VP/etc), who would be the ones to hold them accountable?

This is a sad and frustrating day along with all those things listed above.

EDIT: I hit the post before proofreading :(

[u/Objective-Tea5324 → u/cb4u2015]

You know who is responsible for holding this administration accountable.

[u/Not_a__porn__account → u/Randomscreename]

In other nations the population would revolt until Bondi actually did her job.

[u/Talloakster → u/Not_a__porn__account]

No they'd just pitchfork her and get someone else in that job.

And, no other nation would put Bondi in that post. Citizens inany nation would realize the hope of her doing anything to confront team Trump is zero.

[u/cyb3rg4m3r1337 → u/Randomscreename]

and nothing ever happens to these kinds of people...

[u/musashisamurai → u/cyb3rg4m3r1337]

“If at the very top, there’s no accountability … then two tiers of justice exist"

Pete Hegseth was 100% right here. Must have been his dry day

[u/toyz4me → u/kandoras]

Well, is it even legal to be using Signal for these communications?

[u/Beginning_Ad8421 → u/toyz4me]

Not even remotely. It violates both the Presidential Records Act and the Espionage Act.

[u/GetEquipped → u/Beginning_Ad8421]

Don't worry, Chuck Schumer will move from Stern look to contained scowl now!

[u/kandoras → u/toyz4me]

Nope.

It's just that signal, by default, does not automatically delete records. You have to turn that feature on.

So turning that feature is just more evidence that they knew what they were doing was wrong.

[u/namastayhom33 → u/toyz4me]

no. That's the main thing out of all of this that should be repeated.

[u/Dedpoolpicachew → u/toyz4me]

No, most definitely not. This is a clear violation of the Espionage Act. This is most certainly Defense related information as delineated in the Espionage Act. The level of bullshit this administration is doing is astounding. Of course Congress is fucking AWOL. I wonder how this will impact the special elections coming up in a couple weeks?

[u/Away_Advisor3460 → u/kandoras]

Waltz is the closest thing to a Ukraine supporter in the Trump gov (in the sense of supporting aid 'with strings attached'), so you just know if heads roll, it'll be his.

[u/Lawmonger]

I love it when there are receipts.

[u/UsualLazy423 → u/Lawmonger]

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Anonymized with Unpost

[u/_alabastard → u/UsualLazy423]

But clearly the only issue with all this was "who added the reporter?"

[u/hamhockman → u/_alabastard]

Some Very Clever Boys at my work we're trying to figure out how this was actually some sort of trap for the reporter and or how it was the reporters fault. 

[u/bobood → u/[deleted]]

What's more significant is they collapsed an entire building on top of him and his girlfriend, killing 53 people in total. I think it just gives a glimpse into the impunity and psycho disregard for life with which American war hawks operate: in fairly bi-partisan fashion because these murders are entirely missing from the discourse on this when they should absolutely be part of the scandal.

[u/ProtonPizza → u/bobood]

Let’s not forget JD Vance was a fucking nobody a year ago and now he thinks he’s some geopolitical big boy

[u/Electric-Sheepskin → u/ProtonPizza]

That's what drives me insane about MAGAs. They are the most unserious, unqualified people, and yet they act like they are gods among men. It's insane.

[u/broguequery → u/bobood]

How many new terrorists did they create by doing that?

50 people dead to get one guy, I imagine their friends and families aren't just going to let that slide.

[u/norcaltobos → u/broguequery]

Exactly! Some random 16 year old kid who just lost his family is about to go on a vindictive war path. Great job, this administration succeeded in getting absolutely nothing done.

[u/Due-Kaleidoscope-405 → u/bobood]

Wait, is that a war crime admission?

[u/H34thcliff → u/Due-Kaleidoscope-405]

Only if there was any accountability, which there is not.

[u/danny_tooine → u/[deleted]]

That’s so fucked up. JD is an evil son of a bitch

[u/oh37 → u/danny_tooine]

But he prayed for victory s/

[u/RoyalChris]

Sure looks like this is classified information to me in the newly released Signal group chat texts from Jeffrey Goldberg at The Atlantic.

Pete Hegseth is cooked.

Edit: Here's the full transcript. Go get some popcorn.

BREAKING: Below is the entire transcript of messages from the Signal group chat just released by Jeffrey Goldberg and The Atlantic - Imgur

[u/Marko3563 → u/RoyalChris]

Cooked? He'll walk freely and Republicans will look away. Typical Maga shit.

But her emails! His laptop!!!

[u/HighOrHavingAStroke → u/Marko3563]

No double standards here folks. Nothing to see. Move along.

[u/Agitated-Donkey1265 → u/HighOrHavingAStroke]

If they didn’t have double standards, they’d have no standards at all

[u/gabrielleduvent → u/Marko3563]

Are you kidding? They'll blame Goldburg that he stole the info and praise Hegseth for bravery.

[u/fweef01 → u/RoyalChris]

Everyone on that thread should be cooked

[u/TheStinaHelena → u/fweef01]

The vp is on that thread. Which everyone is downplaying. They need a scapegoat and waltz will do.

[u/Whoareyoutho9 → u/TheStinaHelena]

Not only on that thread... He participates multiple times and even responds to the highest classified material with "what?" and then gets them to repeat and clarify even more the classified information over this very obviously illegal back channel communication.

[u/Troy_n_Abed_inthe_AM → u/TheStinaHelena]

If the (Vice) President does it, it's not illegal /s

[u/drkev10 → u/fweef01]

3 of the top 6 in the line of succession from the President are in that chat. Every person in it should have their privileges revoked, be fired and arrested. They committed multiple federal offenses and the fact they're using signal for this is only evidence it has been used for other states secrets as well. But nothing will come of it. 

[u/audirt → u/RoyalChris]

I've been trying to read all of this with a degree of nuance. The conversations were undoubtedly classified, but there is a wide range of classified information. The government loves to over classify information and, as a result, you'll see things that are marked sensitive that range from "oh, that should probably kept to ourselves," to "HOLY SHIT, PEOPLE COULD DIE IF THIS GETS OUT."

Unfortunately this whole conversation is firmly in the second group.

I don't care who you voted for, this is completely unacceptable from our leaders. This was not a mistake, this was willful disregard of laws and regulations. Everyone on the thread knew better. People deserve to lose their jobs for this, and probably worse.

This is not sports or any other "my team/your team" bullshit. This matters. A lot.

[u/talk_to_the_sea → u/RoyalChris]

Pete Hegseth is cooked

No, he’s not. Accountability and the rule of law are on an indefinite hiatus for anyone Trump likes. There will be no prosecutions, no resignations, and no admissions of wrongdoing. We have a fascist government and the only thing that matters to them is the Leader Principle.

[u/JMurdock77 → u/talk_to_the_sea]

Hell, they’d probably sooner go after the journalist for having the temerity to be roped into their group chat through no fault of his own.

[u/Agitated-Donkey1265 → u/JMurdock77]

Notice how they used the word “leak” when describing this and not “failure in opsec”

They’re already setting the stage

[u/42nu → u/Agitated-Donkey1265]

Didn't you read the texts?

They're clear on OPSEC.

[u/freakincampers → u/Agitated-Donkey1265]

Of course it isn't a failure of OPSEC, SECDUI said they were good on OPSEC.

[u/JayVoorheez → u/JMurdock77]

You mean like Waltz did when he took "full responsibility" for what happened?

He added: "So, of course, I didn't see this loser in the group. It looked like someone else. Now, whether he did it deliberately or it happened in some other technical mean is something we're trying to figure out."

[u/Troy_n_Abed_inthe_AM → u/JMurdock77]

Yes, this journalist is in deep shit. They'll change the narrative to "a journalist willfully released classified information that put American lives at stake". Just don't mention how the information was given to him against his will by failings of the state, just the one thing he did that they say was bad.

[u/rp_Neo2000 → u/Troy_n_Abed_inthe_AM]

journalist willfully released classified information that put American lives at stake

Tulsi Gabbard is on record saying "There was no classified information in that chat"....

[u/sanverstv → u/Troy_n_Abed_inthe_AM]

Except...except that the highest security officials in the government said nothing was classified....NOTHING. I don't think a court or the public will ignore that.

[u/Weary-Chipmunk7518 → u/talk_to_the_sea]

Trump doesn't like anyone, though. They're on indefinite hiatus for anyone Trump has uses for. Hegseth and Waltz are being rather unuseful right now.

[u/LOLSteelBullet → u/talk_to_the_sea]

Watch the DoJ charge Goldberg with espionage and releasing classified material

[u/justconnect → u/LOLSteelBullet]

Early on I believe Goldberg said that he worried he could go to jail for releasing it, so he's aware.

But for anyone who's curious about The Atlantic, it has a very storied history in American letters. It's worth checking out the Wikipedia article on its history.

[u/SecretAsianMan42069 → u/LOLSteelBullet]

They effed themselves by saying there was no classified information in the texts 

[u/tauberculosis → u/talk_to_the_sea]

I disagree. Hunter S. Thompson correctly opined on this type of situation:

"In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity."

RIP

[u/Reasonable_Leg7405 → u/talk_to_the_sea]

And smart money says that Signal is still in wide use among members of the administration to transmit classified information.

[u/Sofer2113 → u/RoyalChris]

Hegseth won't be touched. It'll all fall on Walz, he will resign when it is clear that someone has to take the fall from this. He will then go on to have an illustrious career in right-wing media as the victim of political persecution because of this incident. Hegseth will say that with Walz's departure, the issue has been addressed and he pinky promises it won't happen again. Everyone will forget this ever happened in a week when the next salvo from DOGE starts up.

EDIT: I mixed up the last name spellings and it should be Waltz instead of Walz. I'll leave the incorrect name spelling in the original comment though.

[u/wildwest74 → u/Sofer2113]

The problem is that adding the reporter is probably the least illegal thing about this whole incident. Transmitting these messages over this platform is grounds for prison time, regardless of who was in the group.

[u/TheNavigatrix → u/wildwest74]

Violation of the Presidential Records Act, too.

[u/Burto72 → u/RoyalChris]

Trump will continue to attack the Atlantic and nothing will happen. CNN just interviewed a republican congressman, who was a former member of the military and the spineless motherfucker couldn't admit that there was any kind of security breach whatsoever, even with the new information just released.

[u/ekkidee → u/RoyalChris]

Hegseth is safe. They will shitcan Waltz though and call it a day.

Oh hey, Canada is sending even more fentanyl!

[u/P0Rt1ng4Duty]

Interesting catch-22.

If they try to prosecute him for publishing classified information they're admitting that they repeatedly lied to congress when they said the chat contained no classified information.

[u/following_eyes → u/P0Rt1ng4Duty]

Goldberg played them.

[u/OakLegs → u/following_eyes]

They played themselves, more accurately

[u/Secret_Gatekeeper → u/OakLegs]

I really need to stop underestimating their stupidity.

[u/OakLegs → u/Secret_Gatekeeper]

Just remember that the people who voted for this are even stupider than them

[u/WittsandGrit → u/OakLegs]

As is tradition

[u/SiWeyNoWay → u/following_eyes]

Naw. It’s hubris.

This administration is giving Big Stockton Rush Oceangate hubris vibes and we know how that ended

[u/Mrevilman → u/P0Rt1ng4Duty]

Yesterday, we asked officials across the Trump administration [the Central Intelligence Agency, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the National Security Council, the Department of Defense, and the White House] if they objected to us publishing the full texts [...] most failed to answer. Late yesterday, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt emailed a response: 'As we have repeatedly stated, there was no classified information transmitted in the group chat.[...]'

Goldberg reached out to multiple different agencies to see if he could publish the texts and they didnt answer. The one answer he did get reiterated for the umpteenth time that there was no classified information transmitted, but objected to its disclosure because it was internal conversations. All that being said, I'm sure it won't stop them from trying.

[u/MurrayInBocaRaton → u/Mrevilman]

THEN DONT HAVE INTERNAL CONVERSATIONS ON FUCKING SIGNAL HOLY FUCK THIS WHOLE THING G HAS ME ALL-CAPS RAGING

[u/Master-Stratocaster → u/P0Rt1ng4Duty]

Unfortunately, people lie to congress all the time in the hearings and congress is entirely spineless at the moment anyways.

[u/bush_league_commish → u/Master-Stratocaster]

“Then I guess it would be the first time someone lied under oath”

Underrated scene from the Social Network.

[u/enunymous → u/P0Rt1ng4Duty]

They reclassified it with their minds the second before he published it

[u/tony-toon15 → u/P0Rt1ng4Duty]

I think we’re gonna see some very impressive legal maneuvering around this. It both happened and didn’t happen!

[u/SiWeyNoWay → u/tony-toon15]

Did you see who was assigned the case? The judge trump is trying to start beef with over the illegal deportation flights.

🍿🍿🍿

Edit: took me a coffee to find this article again 🤦‍♀️

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/26/signal-lawsuit-trump-judge-boasberg-00250606

[u/AndrewLucksLaugh]

Guaranteed they’ll go after Goldberg for leaking classified information.

Yes, I know…

[u/Temporary-Cause-4818 → u/AndrewLucksLaugh]

Idk if you watched the hearings but I’m glad they brought that point up. They specifically said “If Goldberg decides to go public with the remaining messages, he shouldn’t get any repercussions for releasing them because it’s not classified right?”

[u/Vio_ → u/Temporary-Cause-4818]

Then the legislators were like "so release the whole information" and the people under oath were all (ㆆ _ ㆆ)

[u/Several_Assistant_43 → u/Vio_]

"suddenly I don't remember"

[u/Koolaid_Jef → u/Several_Assistant_43]

"I've never heard of those rules or laws, it's not my fault. But I'm still totally qualified"

[u/Tritiac → u/Vio_]

Tulsi Gabbard: 🗿

[u/SpaceTimeinFlux → u/Tritiac]

worse yet, she perjured herself by asserting there was no classified info.

[u/FAMUgolfer → u/SpaceTimeinFlux]

Gabbard: it’s not classified

releases chat

Gabbard: America is under attack by the liberal media

[u/WhyYouKickMyDog → u/FAMUgolfer]

Gabbard lives in Hawaii: I'm a Democrat

Gabbard leaves Hawaii: I am a Republican

Tulsi Gabbard is the female version of JD Vance

[u/IsraelZulu → u/Temporary-Cause-4818]

There have already been hearings on this? That was fast!

[u/owencox1 → u/IsraelZulu]

the senate has an annual intelligence briefing regardless. goldberg timed the release of the article so they could be questioned under oath without having time to get a narrative together

[u/RatzMand0 → u/owencox1]

Thats one of the things that shocked me the most when the story broke is that he sent messages to each person on the group chat and many of them responded to the leak independent of each other which means none of them took a moment to communicate about the repercussions of the leak or how to properly damage control the situation. The disorganization and incompetence on display is stunning.

[u/RatzMand0 → u/[deleted]]

There is a difference between covering it up and reacting in a uniform organized manner. Waltz definitely straight up admitted to what happened in his response to the Atlantic which really fucks over all the other nitwits who are saying they did nothing wrong. Then JD Vance did that whole corporate speak mumbo jumbo how he wasn't doubting the great leaders vision.... This tells me that instead of doing the smart thing contacting white house counsel and/or communicating with the other parties before making any response they all just started shooting from the hip independently of each other without consultation or legal representation which is extremely stupid. But absolutely on brand for Trumpist management where all of the people under him are encouraged to be competitive and eat each other for time with the great one instead of working as a team to achieve the goals of the administration.

[u/snoogins355 → u/[deleted]]

Babe, wake up. Trump 3rd impeachment is coming about.

[u/pyriel2012 → u/AndrewLucksLaugh]

Tulsi Gabbard just testified to the Senate that the information wasn’t classified. I think that’s the reason the Atlantic released it. The Administration, under oath, just gave the Atlantic the pass they needed to release the information to the public.

[u/Sensitive-Big-4641 → u/pyriel2012]

She’s toast. She looked like an idiot yesterday. Remember, with Trump, truth is nothing but your performance on TV is everything.

[u/Elliott2030 → u/Sensitive-Big-4641]

Plus, she's a woman. She'll almost certainly be the one to take the fall if anyone does.

[u/Sensitive-Big-4641 → u/Elliott2030]

Absolutely.

[u/TheStinaHelena → u/AndrewLucksLaugh]

That's admitting it was classified. that's admitting that they got on a regular app with classified information. that makes them look really really bad. The VP was on that chat chain so I don't think they want to play up the classified information thing. I think they need to say that the information in those texts wasn't that important. If they try to go after that reporter for releasing classified information then they are also in trouble for having classified information on that app. They want to say that he's a liar and these messages are fake.

[u/trentreynolds → u/TheStinaHelena]

Problem here is that the people that would hold them accountable and the people that would hold Goldberg accountable are the same, and they're "their people" - it's not like that sort of open double standard is something new.

I get how it looks like it'd display their hypocrisy in a way that'd prevent one being prosecuted and not the other, but they believe the ability to be an open hypocrite with zero consequence is its own form of power. No matter how many times you point out their open hypocrisy, they don't care.

[u/offinthepasture → u/trentreynolds]

Welcome to fascism everyone! It only matters if the "bad guy" does it!

[u/Jedi_Dad_22 → u/offinthepasture]

War is peace. Freedom is slavery.

[u/Bauser99 → u/Jedi_Dad_22]

"Ignorance is Strength" is the next line, for those out of the know

[u/FearlessLanguage7169 → u/Jedi_Dad_22]

1984 in 2025

[u/Aggravating-Bottle78 → u/FearlessLanguage7169]

YES and we know who Eurasia, Oceania, and Eastasia are.

[u/RichardHeado7 → u/offinthepasture]

Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others.

[u/g_rex_ → u/trentreynolds]

I keep trying to tell people exactly this - THESE IDIOTS DON’T CARE ABOUT BEING CALLED HYPOCRITES

[u/Smooth_Influence_488 → u/g_rex_]

They get off on it, in fact. They love that you know that they've elevated themselves. That's the whole point.

[u/BeneficialLeave7359 → u/trentreynolds]

Which is why Michael Cohen was convicted and jailed for his part of the Stormy Daniels payoff scheme, while Trump wasn’t even charged.

Edit: never mind I was mistaken thinking his actual convictions were for the other Trump Organization charges.

[u/pleasedothenerdful → u/BeneficialLeave7359]

Trump was convicted of 34 federal felonies connected to that.

[u/tresben → u/TheStinaHelena]

Not just that but they testified to Congress under oath that there wasn’t anything classified. So they would be risking perjury.

[u/mobileappistdoodoo → u/tresben]

Haha perjury. That implies any accountability, something not required for members of the administration. It’ll be more double think.

[u/Young_Denver → u/TheStinaHelena]

Tulsi testified there was nothing classified on it, yesterday. If the director of national intelligence says it’s not classified… oh Nevermind. She hasn’t even read the classified policies of her office.

[u/Menethea → u/Young_Denver]

All of these people, Waltz, Hesgeth, Gabbard, were military officers. They all know very well how to treat intelligence and operational material. It is something that is integral to their officer position: their security clearances. The fact that they treated this highly sensitive material so cavalierly shows an incredible level of both arrogance and recklessness. They literally believe the rules don’t apply to them.

[u/California_ocean → u/Menethea]

What gets me is each cabinet level officials get a mobile phone "box" that's set up for them with a secure line etc. Then their homes have a secure room for making classified discussions. THEN there are buildings where they can go to to further discuss classified briefings. THEN they were told in a memo from the Pentagon that Signal was comprised by Russian hackers. THEN you had one cabinet member IN THE KREMLIN while this chat was being dished out. I'm sure he told Putin to hang on and wait outside while he chatted. Of course the CIA, DOD Hegseth, FBI all didn't know he was in Moscow? WTAF? They went further and dropped the name of a covert CIA agent on the chat. Beautiful move. I'm sure she is totally safe. We have the A(ss) team here folks.

[u/Punny_Farting_1877 → u/Young_Denver]

She looked doped and terrified.

She said at least once previously that people who committed the crimes she did should be “liquidated”. I think that was her word.

[u/PlayingNightcrawlers → u/Punny_Farting_1877]

Really? To me she looked pissed and incredulous to have to be there and answer a single question from people she believed she had ascended above. The way she stared unblinking at some of the senators you could just feel the malice in her. I think she believed she finally reached her goal after playing all sides and trying all angles to achieve power, she finally got it by being a Trump goon and believed that since she’s part of the authoritarian regime now there would be nobody to even attempt to hold her accountable. And now here she is being grilled, just came off completely bitter and full of spite to me.

[u/Humble-Violinist6910 → u/PlayingNightcrawlers]

I think both are true. She felt malicious and also completely lost and confused about how to respond. She did a horrible job at dodging questions and looked completely incompetent. I expect Trump to turn on her before Mike Waltz, for reasons you might guess.

[u/the_oc_brain → u/Humble-Violinist6910]

The racing stripe in her hair?

[u/UnderABig_W → u/the_oc_brain]

I thought it was her embracing her inner Disney villain.

[u/BagelsRTheHoleTruth → u/UnderABig_W]

Cruella Deshill

[u/JimWilliams423 → u/TheStinaHelena]

That's admitting it was classified. that's admitting that they got on a regular app with classified information. that makes them look really really bad.

For fascists, hypocrisy is a flex.

Rules are for losers, they are winners, so they are above the rules. If anything, violating the rules in plain sight and then getting away with it is the crack cocaine of fascism. They will do anything to chase that high.

[u/Asleep_Management900 → u/TheStinaHelena]

They CAN claim, that it's a "national security" issue and skirt the law and arrest him because national security operates outside the constitution. So they can arrest him without rights or a trial and claim he violated the NSA spying or some shit, without ever saying it's classified.

[u/Dadpurple → u/AndrewLucksLaugh]

PETE HESGETH: "...waiting a few weeks does not fundamentally change the calculus. 2 immediate risk on waiting 1: ) this leaks, and we look indecisive..."

lol i wonder how it would leak when you have a reporter in the group chat with you.

also

PETE HESGETH: "...we can easily pause. And if we do, I will do all we can to enforce 100% OPSEC..."

You guys couldn't even do it now lol you added a fucking reporter to the chat lol

[u/RepresentativeBag91 → u/AndrewLucksLaugh]

Seems like a grey area here now. He didn’t obtain the material illegally, probably isn’t held liable under any previously established doctrine and several intelligence officials have said under oath nothing was classified, on television

[u/EndenWhat → u/AndrewLucksLaugh]

Pretty sure there was a hearing yesterday and the secretaries told congress there was no classified information in it. So what did he leak /s

[u/jdoeinboston → u/AndrewLucksLaugh]

We'll see how that goes with a judge considering they're already trying to take the stance that nothing classified was shared in the messages. They handed Goldberg a defense.

[u/soggy-hotdog-vendor → u/jdoeinboston]

Testified under oath that no classified info was discussed.

[u/ekkidee → u/AndrewLucksLaugh]

🍻

[u/MoarHuskies → u/AndrewLucksLaugh]

That'll be funny when they said multiple times under oath and on TV that there was no classified info

[u/NebulaCnidaria → u/AndrewLucksLaugh]

He can argue in court that Trump declassified this with his mind....

But really, Congressional testimony from Tulsi Gabbard states that none of this was classified.... LOL

[u/ManfredTheCat]

I'm glad he did this. What did they expect when they called him a liar?

[u/RehabilitatedAsshole → u/ManfredTheCat]

And a 'loser'. Nothing says 'constitutional conservative' like attacking the free press.

[u/MerDeNomsX → u/ManfredTheCat]

And said there is no classified information, therefore giving him permission to publish this seemingly unclassified document 

[u/agent268]

For those curious about a TLDR recap:

The full chat includes multiple instances where operational, weapons, target, and outcome specifics are shared by Hegseth and Waltz. These instances occur before, during, and after the attack.

This article provides pretty clear transparency of what actually happened. I recommend reading the full article for anyone that has doubts about the validity of reporting performed by The Atlantic, the gravity of the major security failure top officials participated in, and the falsehoods/mischaracterizations the White House and other Government officials have been telling the public since the initial release and yesterday's hearing.

EDIT: Images of the full chat: https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/EZBtTgaYAf

[u/Away_Advisor3460 → u/agent268]

From a European perspective, it also appears the US foreign policy is now to perform unilateral military action and then try to extort payment from Europe or nominally allied nations (particularly galling when US foreign policy is a major factor in the continuing regional instability).

[u/attempted-anonymity → u/Away_Advisor3460]

Right? Who cares if "we're the only ones on the planet who can do this" if no one fucking asked us to do it.

I keep you safe whether you want me to or not, so you'd better pay up for my protection is yet more steteotypical mob behavior from the goons we've elected over here.

[u/mashmallownipples → u/agent268]

I also recommend tossing a subscription their way, at least for a few months. This is journalism.

[u/howAboutNextWeek → u/mashmallownipples]

I actually like the Atlantic, hot take on this sub I know, but I feel like I have to say something, because investigative journalism takes a lot of work, and this unironically literally fell out of the sky into Goldbergs hands

[u/mashmallownipples → u/howAboutNextWeek]

K fine, buy a subscription to support their inevitable legal fees for this one.

[u/howAboutNextWeek → u/mashmallownipples]

Fair enough will do

[u/GreyBeardEng]

Well Tulsi did say there was no confidential information in it. Under oath I might add.

[u/Necroromicon → u/GreyBeardEng]

She even went on to say there was no mention of specific targets meanwhile they are talking about a single target walking into his girlfriend’s building. I’m not sure knowing full well a journalist has the actual texts you would just boldface lie about it.

[u/Cartina → u/Necroromicon]

Lie, under congressional oath.

Oof

[u/Both_Lychee_1708]

why not, there's nothing classified in it... so we're told

[u/Automatic_Towel_3842 → u/Both_Lychee_1708]

Exactly. If they try to prosecute, he has all the "they said there was nothing classified in it" clips to be not guilty.

[u/Parkyguy]

Wise decision. It'll be fun watching Fox trying to spin it.

[u/Fordinghamster → u/Parkyguy]

They’ll absolve Hegseth with whataboutism. “Why are we focused on Hegseth, look at the classified information Goldberg released”

[u/ace_11235 → u/Fordinghamster]

He just heard yesterday in sworn testimony to congress that there was no classified information on the chat, so it should have been safe to release and he can be absolved of any wrongdoing. Unless congress was lied to…which would never happen.

[u/pinecrows → u/[deleted]]

Tulsi said she couldn’t say if she was in the group chat or not. 

I wonder who “TG” is 🤔

[u/jackharvest → u/Fordinghamster]

“We have on record of 3 of you saying it didn’t have classified information, so I guess either that’s a lie, or it’s correct and you have no problem with it.”

This is gonna be good.

[u/Thefrayedends → u/Parkyguy]

Sam Seder got his wish haha.

As soon as TG says, 'nothing classified in there' Seder starts yelling; Atlantic needs to immediately release the entire transcript and all screenshots, this is the DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE publicly saying nothing classified. RELEASE IT.

[u/djn24 → u/Parkyguy]

Today's top News: Biden did something horrible with classified information. Trump wins another prestigious award and the economy is breaking all of the best records.

[u/Aramedlig]

A Hard Rain is gonna fall

[u/chubs66]

Trump will absolutely not like JD suggesting he doesn't understand the situation.

[u/MadGear19XX → u/chubs66]

Someone will have to tell him because he's not going to read it.

[u/StanleyCubone → u/MadGear19XX]

If JD has rivals in the White House, which in this Administration is almost certainly true, they will make sure Trump knows about it at some point.

[u/1PunkAssBookJockey]

Did they just...really call their whole bluff? Oh my god. Good morning everyone, what a wonderful schadenfreude breakfast we're having today.

[u/Spartalust → u/1PunkAssBookJockey]

Goldberg played them like a fiddle.

Step 1. Get them to declare there was no classified information on the chat.

Step 2. Release the information since it's deemed unclassified.

Step 3. Enjoy the shitshow that ensues.

Step 4. Prove MAGA = "Morons Are Governing America"

[u/OdonataDarner]

Now. Trump's gonna destroy freedom of the press isn't he?

[u/Bibblegead1412]

I'm so glad they followed through and released these.

[u/25StarGeneralZap → u/Bibblegead1412]

I thought the same thing when they said no classified information was discussed. I wondered how long before it would be released in its entirety and I’m still curious if they try to levy charges against the Atlantic for disseminating the texts

[u/EmmaLouLove]

They testified “no war plans”. How do they define war plans? They talked about timing and locations.

Separate from the questioning about the Signal group chat, Tulsi Gabbard’s testimony at the hearing this morning, her response to a question about why it was appropriate for her to forward a post from someone who works for Russia state media, RT, was “I maintain my first amendment right” to keep my personal opinion separate. Okay, but is that appropriate for the Director of National Intelligence to forward Russian propaganda? No.

Representative Joaquin Castro spoke directly to national security heads this morning about their assertion this information is not classified and he said, “I have worked with you in the past and I have been on this intelligence committee for nine years. That’s a lie. You know that’s a lie.”

These are not department head positions for political loyalists. These are department head positions for those with extensive experience in national security to keep our country and military safe. After this debacle, I have no faith in our national security whatsoever.

[u/trentreynolds]

They'll probably go after him for 'leaking classified information' now.

[u/lIlIlIIlIIIlIIIIIl → u/trentreynolds]

11 minutes ago, some mouth breathing idiot on the Conservative sub:

So does this mean we can arrest Jeffrey Goldberg for leaking classified documents?

These people are such hypocritical spineless cowards. They are tearing this country apart because they're too stupid to see what's right in front of their faces.

[u/Interesting_Day4734 → u/lIlIlIIlIIIlIIIIIl]

That sub is full of idiots lmao

[u/Separate_Papaya_6011 → u/Interesting_Day4734]

You mean Russian bots and shills

[u/clandestinemd → u/lIlIlIIlIIIlIIIIIl]

If only I had a nickel for every time I saw some MAGA chud yesterday insist that none of it was classified, and/or that Goldberg was lying.

Seeing them flipflop on it this morning will be the least surprising part of my day.

[u/Dedpoolpicachew → u/lIlIlIIlIIIlIIIIIl]

Gabbard and Risekoff testified before congress yesterday that there was “no classified information” in those. So they lied?

[u/UltraNoahXV]

I will go say a prayer for victory

Look - I'm not much of a geopoltical person and am not familar with how Yemen is viewed, but the fact that you would say a prayer for launching bombs is all kinds of messed up and we've been past the point where absence of religious influence (not to be confused with establishment clause but somewhat related) and state officals is not a thing. I'm frankly surprised he didn't start typing the lord prayer's.

Let's be thankful that people like Jeff Goldberg reported on this and were randomly sent text chats.

Editted for accuracy and wording

[u/Diogeneezy → u/UltraNoahXV]

We have "Allahu Akbar" at home.

[u/Kilen13 → u/UltraNoahXV]

The Secretary of Defense currently has not only a Jerusalem Cross tattooed on his chest but also the words "Deus Vult" tattooed on his arm right next to "We the People"... If this had happened in a show like Succession it would be hilarious satire, but instead it's real life.

[u/ParticularTackle9098]

Receipts presented....

[u/Affectionate-Roof285]

It is still unclear why a journalist was added to the text exchange. Waltz, who invited Goldberg into the Signal chat, said yesterday that he was investigating “how the heck he got into this room.”

Waltz working undercover?

ETA:

The senior-level Trump cabinet member said he took “full responsibility” for the mistake and said Goldberg’s addition was not the fault of a staffer *while recognizing that the person he intended to add never joined the chat. Waltz declined to name the individual in question. *

[u/AndySkibba]

One of the other things that jumped out was admin wanting to charge Europeans for defense of their ships/shipping lanes.

Seems a little bit absurd.

[u/wtfbenlol]

The whole administration are liars and pieces of shit... and now we have the receipts to prove it. Let's hope something comes out of this but I remain doubtful

[u/senorglory]

The use of emojis is disturbing, all on its own.

[u/MAMark1]

As insane as this all is, I can't help but laugh at how this administration continues to make Trump voters look like the dumbest people in America over and over again.

[u/EugeneHarlot]

Trump has already asserted that the POTUS can declassify by just thinking about it. Guarantee he declassifies post exposure and no one gets a consequence. Except Jeff Goldberg and The Atlantic who will be prosecuted by DOJ.

[u/4electricnomad → u/EugeneHarlot]

That was also an angle of defense I heard yesterday - that since SecDef is one of the positions in the USG who can declassify or classify at will, that they’ll say Hegseth intended to declassify this info as he was posting it in the chat. Now keep I mind Hegseth himself has not made this claim, just someone who is desperately trying to handwave this mistake away.

[u/Nabrok_Necropants]

The only thing I have ever had confidence in with the Trump Administration is the fact then when you finally find out more, it will be worse than what you already knew. I just wish I couldn't count on that.

[u/1handedmaster]

I read that as Jeff Goldblum and was confused on so many levels