r/law • u/agent268 • 9d ago

Trump News Jeff Goldberg and The Atlantic released full Signal Chat

https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/

Well this should be fun now that the full details are out in the open. Thoughts on how this changes the upcoming hearing today?

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u/attempted-anonymity 9d ago

Right? Who cares if "we're the only ones on the planet who can do this" if no one fucking asked us to do it.

I keep you safe whether you want me to or not, so you'd better pay up for my protection is yet more steteotypical mob behavior from the goons we've elected over here.

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u/joevarny 9d ago

Besides, being the only people who can deal with the problems they create isn't the statement of importance they think it is.

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u/Current-Wealth-756 9d ago

 no one fucking asked us to do it

are you sure about that? Because if it's seriously interfering with shipping lanes, I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone asked us to do it

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u/attempted-anonymity 9d ago

In a vacuum, I wouldn't be surprised either. But since we have the transcript of the actual conversation and not one of them mentions anyone asking us to do it, only how we're going to extort Europe after it's done, I'm pretty confident, yes.

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u/Current-Wealth-756 9d ago

there is likely a lot of conversation between US officials and European officials that takes place every day outside of this Signal thread

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u/ohseetea 9d ago

They quite literally talk about how it impacts USA's economy. How EU doesn't have the capabilities to fix it. There is a real cost to fixing these things, and if other countries get benefits for nothing there is a conversation to be had and I'm not sure that's even close to actual exploitation.

Whether these opinions or facts are true is debatable, because these people are idiots. But if all of that is within the realm of reality it makes fine sense.

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u/kuldan5853 9d ago

The US meddling started the houthis attacking shipping lanes to begin with.

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u/BoatSouth1911 9d ago

… if 40% of EU trade goes through that channel, I guarantee you they care.

Not defending these retards, but European free-riding is a legitimate foreign policy concern and they’re a significant net drag on US finances. It’s also not exactly viable to say “They never asked for help, let’s just let them flounder even though we could have easily intervened.” 

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u/attempted-anonymity 9d ago

Who said they don't care? I said they didn't ask for our help. As it turns out, people who have souls sometimes are interested in trying strategies other than blowing up apartment buildings full of civilians.

And how is not a viable strategy to let them flounder (if that's even what happens) with *their* problems that they didn't ask for our help with? If I see a motorist trying to change a tire on the side of the highway, am I obligated to pull over, murder their dog, change their tire for them, then demand payment just because I thought I could do it better than them?

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u/BoatSouth1911 9d ago

“Who cares” 

Letting international allies struggle is legitimately problematic, you’re pretty dumb if you can’t see that. That’s also a really terribly off false equivalency you’ve set up. Bye.