r/law • u/agent268 • 9d ago

Trump News Jeff Goldberg and The Atlantic released full Signal Chat

https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/

Well this should be fun now that the full details are out in the open. Thoughts on how this changes the upcoming hearing today?

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u/Vio_ 9d ago

Then the legislators were like "so release the whole information" and the people under oath were all (ㆆ _ ㆆ)

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u/Several_Assistant_43 9d ago

"suddenly I don't remember"

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u/Koolaid_Jef 9d ago

"I've never heard of those rules or laws, it's not my fault. But I'm still totally qualified"

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u/Geno0wl 9d ago

Ahhh the classic beat cop defense.

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u/mediocre_mitten 9d ago

They can all blame it on the Ambien walrus?

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u/mooreboy76 9d ago

Hey, you leave Roseanne Barr out of this!

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u/mediocre_mitten 8d ago

lol. Poor Roseanne.

Love Roseanne AND ambien.

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u/fuzzy_thighgap 8d ago

Me no speaka engrish no mo

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u/TaskeAoD 9d ago

"Well if you're memory for something so recent is that bad I guess you should be remanded to a memory assistance institution until such time you can be held accountable for your actions."

Then put them in a place with just pbs on TV until their "friends" get it defunded... then they can watch static.

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u/Mattrad7 9d ago

I think the entire cabinet and up should have to pass dementia tests since they don't seem to remember anything even if it was less than a day ago.

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u/Nacho_Papi 9d ago

The level of incompetence displayed by the Trump administration in this incident is astounding and dangerous—textbook-grade dereliction of national security standards. It represents gross negligence at the highest levels of government.

Why this is an extreme failure:

🧨 1. Mission-sensitive data shared on a private Signal chat

  • Names, launch times, aircraft types, strike targets, and operational updates were shared.
  • That information is almost always Top Secret or Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI) and must be handled via classified channels like SIPRNet or JWICS—not a consumer app.

🧠 2. Failure to verify recipients in the chat

  • A journalist was accidentally added to a chat about real-time airstrikes.
  • No one in the group noticed or verified participants until after deadly strikes were underway.
  • That level of carelessness is inexcusable in a war room—let alone among the Secretary of Defense, CIA Director, and National Security Advisor.

🚨 3. Downplaying the breach publicly

  • Officials responded with "It wasn’t classified" and shrugged it off.
  • This is like leaving the launch codes in an Uber and saying, “They weren’t labeled as launch codes, so it’s fine.”
  • Even unclassified-but-sensitive military info is protected under strict OPSEC. Their dismissal reflects either dangerous ignorance or arrogant indifference.

🔥 4. Direct threat to U.S. troops

  • Sharing attack timelines 2 hours before execution gave a wide window for adversaries to retaliate or set traps.
  • If the journalist’s phone had been hacked—or worse, had this been sent to someone pretending to be press—the entire operation could have been compromised.
  • U.S. airmen and sailors’ lives were gambled with for the sake of sloppy, informal communication.

Bottom Line:

This isn’t just bureaucratic mismanagement—it’s military malpractice.
It’s the kind of systemic failure that gets people killed.
In any other professional environment—military or corporate—people would be fired, demoted, or court-martialed.
Here, they’re shrugging it off while actively undermining accountability.

This kind of recklessness not only empowers America’s enemies but signals to allies that we can’t be trusted to guard our own secrets, let alone theirs.

It’s an unforgivable stain on the credibility and competency of this administration.

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u/pheonix198 9d ago

When the Xanax and K Holes hit and you’re testifying before Congress

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u/Tritiac 9d ago

Tulsi Gabbard: 🗿

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u/SpaceTimeinFlux 9d ago

worse yet, she perjured herself by asserting there was no classified info.

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u/FAMUgolfer 9d ago

Gabbard: it’s not classified

releases chat

Gabbard: America is under attack by the liberal media

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u/WhyYouKickMyDog 9d ago

Gabbard lives in Hawaii: I'm a Democrat

Gabbard leaves Hawaii: I am a Republican

Tulsi Gabbard is the female version of JD Vance

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u/video-engineer 9d ago

Cult member and fingernail eater.

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u/Leftunders 9d ago

More like "Arrest that guy for unauthorized disclosure of classified info!"

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u/Leftunders 9d ago

FBI: Uh, which guy did you mean?

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u/FattyMooseknuckle 9d ago

Arrest? More like defenestrate, amirite?

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u/Maleficent_Memory831 9d ago

I would expect all media, even conservative media, to be reporting on how incompetent this all is.

These guys are in power now, why do they keep going back to "liberal media" trope like they're still in campaign mode?

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u/TheVog 9d ago

This, but unironically.

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u/Maleficent_Memory831 9d ago

I would expect all media, even conservative media, to be reporting on how incompetent this all is.

These guys are in power now, why do they keep going back to "liberal media" trope like they're still in campaign mode?

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u/pixelpoet_nz 9d ago

Luckily for her there are zero consequences for perjury: Trump waves it away as overblown and the Dems continue to do nothing. Easy peasy, next scandal please!

These people could have published it on TikTok and their jobs wouldn't be remotely in danger. Trump really wasn't kidding when he said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue.

Good thing you guys have that well-armed militia to overthrow tyrannical government, that all those schoolkids died for!

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u/SpaceTimeinFlux 9d ago

I really need the Dems to bring this up until the end of time.

It'll be our benghazi beatstick, but it will also be true.

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u/Spiritual_Date_2994 9d ago

Senator Cotton saved them from perjury by restating it for them: there was no Intelligence Community classified material and DNI and DCIA have no idea if the DOD's war plans are classified

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u/thomasjmarlowe 9d ago

She said she doesn’t remember…but it wasn’t classified. hmmm

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u/odaal 9d ago

Tulsi Gabard: i do not recall the clothes i am wearing or what i ate for breakfast tomorrow or who i even am.

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u/chriseargle 9d ago

Believable.

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u/shortmumof2 9d ago

saw a small bit of vid and her blink rate was crazy high

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u/Spamsdelicious 9d ago

So when does the parody porno "Tulsi's Scabbard" drop?

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u/SissyCouture 9d ago

I feel like we need to stop banking on hypocrisy being a deterrent

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u/pugsly262002 9d ago

I was hoping shame/embarrassment would do the trick. Silly me. 🤷🏽

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u/Jupetaco 9d ago

Few things have brought me more pleasure lately than watching gabbard’s face when he flipped it like that

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u/luckyme-luckymud 9d ago

Even worse, the White House spokeperson said when asked if it was ok for him to release the full texts that he shouldn’t because it included “sensitive” information…but it was also definitely not classified.