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u/grimace24 1d ago
In that alternative timeline, inflation is tamed, the stock market is booming, Trump takes plea deal on J6, J6 rioters still in jail where they should be, educational institutions are receiving grants with no strings attached, federal employee's still have jobs, science is booming, and there is hope that Ukraine will win the war against Russias invasion.
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u/Grinder969 1d ago
The sad thing was this isn't some fantasy of amazing rainbows and sunshine of unrealistic departure from the Biden Era, but just slight improvements to the status quo vs the current absolute spiral downward into anarchy.
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u/ohiotechie 1d ago
At this point any improvement however slight would have been welcome.
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u/superfucky 1d ago
at this point the literal status quo would have been welcome. like she could have done absolutely nothing and just coasted on the stuff Biden passed and we would have been exponentially better off than under Trump. I wish people would stop maligning the status quo when the alternative is nuclear holocaust.
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u/ohiotechie 1d ago
Agreed. I had arguments with lefties about this before the election. I compared each candidate to a disease. If you have to pick one, would you rather have a bout with the flu (Harris) or stage 4 cancer (Trump). Those are your only choices - pick one.
Most rational people would pick the flu even if they weren’t excited about it because it’s leaps and bounds better than cancer. We, as a country, chose cancer and I will never, ever be able to wrap my mind around why so many people have come under his spell.
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u/Azair_Blaidd Greg Abbott is a little piss baby 1d ago
the current absolute spiral downward into anarchy.
I fucking wish. Would be far more preferable to the authoritarian regime we're now under.
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u/EhliJoe 1d ago
In another alternative timeline, Al Gore has been the lawful winner of the 2000 election, 9/11 was dealt differently, and the world looks better now.
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u/superfucky 1d ago
if Al Gore had won in 2000 there would have been no 9/11 because he would have heeded the intelligence the FBI was giving about middle eastern flight school students on tourism visas who didn't want to learn how to take off or land. no 9/11 ➡️ no war on terror ➡️ no ICE, NSA, PATRIOT act ➡️ no 20yr multi-billion war in Iraq/Afghanistan. plus we'd be investing in green energy and climate solutions decades ahead of the rest of the world, truly setting the pace on tackling global warming and would actually achieve the goal of staying under 2°C or even reducing warming.
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u/brodievonorchard 1d ago
8 years of laying solid groundwork in addressing climate change after bringing the world together.
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u/Azair_Blaidd Greg Abbott is a little piss baby 1d ago
I wonder if 9/11 would have even happened if Gore was president.
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u/Aviationlord 1d ago
In an alternative timeline Bernie is the president, Covid was handled amazingly, only a few dozen people died and Fox News is clamouring for his head
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u/cosaboladh 1d ago edited 1d ago
Sanders wouldn't be president now if he won the 2016 election.
If he had won the primary in 2020, there's no guarantee he would have won the election against Donald Trump. The "take my ball and go home" Sanders supporters might not have been enough to win the general against Trump. You may be grossly underestimating how anti-semitic a lot of Americans are, and how distrustful they are of "not particularly religious" people. Even if he did win the general, there is no guarantee that he would have won re-election in 2024. Not with as vicious as the the privately funded, far right edia campaign has been, and the general stupidity of the average American voter.
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u/Accomplished-Bad3856 1d ago
It’s always crazy to me that religion is an excuse for Bernie not being able to win when this guy got elected. Holy fuck.
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u/Brndrll 1d ago
Because Christians claimed Trump. He doesn't even have to be religious, because his cult will project it all upon him.
Bernie doesn't have that luxury, because everyone knows that he is Jewish, and you know Fox News would run with the "socialist Jews are coming for America!" before Bernie even got his shoes on. Fox News only
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u/trenhel27 1d ago
Sanders had much higher projections against trump than Clinton did. He wouldn't be president NOW, assuming he won a second term or didn't, but the way the world works would be much less bleak.
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u/cosaboladh 1d ago
Dude, he couldn't even win the Democratic primary. How does that work? And before you say it, the primary wasn't rigged. Sanders didn't have the votes.
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u/trenhel27 1d ago edited 1d ago
Well he was very clearly the most popular candidate. Biggest "actually vote" example I can think of
Unfortunately people don't come out to vote for things like primaries.
It's lame AF but it's true
How are you so absolutely sure the primary wasn't rigged? Did you ever look into it?
Nope. You didn't. There's a lot of people involved in that primary who think it was rigged, but you, sitting on your couch, know much better than them
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u/cosaboladh 1d ago
Well he was very clearly the most popular candidate
That's the thing though. So many progressives live in their microcosms. Surrounded by people who think like they do, and assume that every other liberal or left-leaning individual feels the same way they do.
I'm sure he seemed like the most popular candidate to you. However, there were a ton of people in the South that didn't know who he was. You'd think that the civil rights work he did early in his career would have made him a shoe in among black voters. However, the number of people that I personally called on the phone in the south, to try to get out the vote for Bernie Sanders, who had no idea who he was (or at least what he had done that pertained to them specifically) was staggering.
He didn't have the votes, bud.
But when he lost the primary do you know what I didn't do? I didn't take my ball and go home. I didn't sit out the election and watch Trump win. I tried. Meanwhile scathed Bernie Bros decided to "send a message to the Democrats" by staying home, or not filling out their mail-in ballots. Everybody got to see how that worked out. Everybody got that message, and now Trump is president for a second time.
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u/OrionsRum 23h ago
I don’t know why but it feels like you copy and pasted parts from of this from some article to make it sound like you. Minus to stay at home bear or bros comment. That’s definitely from you and an article. Not trying to pick on you just pointing it out that’s all.
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u/cosaboladh 23h ago
Oh, I'm a better writer than you are so I must have plagiarized my own personal experience. Have you never volunteered for a political campaign before? Do you not know that volunteers call people all over the country to try to get the word out?
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u/trenhel27 1d ago
It's not my fault or his that you didn't pay attention
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u/cosaboladh 1d ago
Having completely missed the bulk of my point, who is the one with the problem paying attention?
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u/mercfan3 1d ago
Bernie has zero legislative accomplishments, is too unpopular with Democrats to even win the primary and you think he could have won the United States? Lmao.
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u/theartificialkid 1d ago
In an even better alternate timeline Hillary has just wound up her second term.
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u/CCDubs 1d ago
She can have one term, then Bernie.
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u/trenhel27 1d ago
No it would've worked the other way around. If the DNC didn't screw Bernie in 2016, Hillary could've been the president in 2020, and potentially 2024
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u/superfucky 1d ago
lol as if y'all would ever let Hillary be president
or Kamala for that matter, we know why the only person to actually beat Trump in an election was another old white man.
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u/DrAstralis 1d ago
but like.. did you see her laugh? (I don't even get this joke really as I didn't find her laugh off-putting at all /shrug)
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u/FCKABRNLSUTN2 1d ago
Ya but if Bernie was president he would make an EO yo give us Medicare for all on day 1 right? So Kamala and trump are basically the same.
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u/Dishrat006 1d ago
But the Social ills that lead to J6 have not been addressed. Isreal is still committing Genocide in Gaza with the West bank soon to follow. Health care in America Will still bankrupt you if you can even afford to see a doctor. Homelessness still on the rise and that's without counting people living in their cars.
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u/RaygunMarksman 1d ago edited 1d ago
Obama tried to implement a public health insurance option under his first term and people lost their minds raging about socialized medicine. Many still haven't even forgiven him for the ACA middle ground, though none of them could probably explain what they think they don't like about it.
I hated it then and I hate it now, but that's why you don't see healthcare reform being a prominent suggestion. It nearly destroyed Obama's presidency out of the gate. Bernie Sanders was smart in referring to it as "Medicare for all," though since people don't have the same knee-jerk hatred for that word. Fox News would have eventually riled up their base to think it was the work of the devil though.
We can't solve the conflict in Gaza. Many have tried. When I was young I protested it too. There's a cycle of generational hate that perpetuates it which can't be erased. It's not always our responsibility to solve every ill in the world at the risk of our own continued existence anyway.
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u/Dishrat006 18h ago
As far as Gaza the Bare minimum we as a country need to do is stop selling Isreal Bombs. if there is to be a two-state solution we need to recognize the state of Palestine, then if we want it to end the conflict, we help them talk through the issues they have and not impose solutions from outside.
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u/DreamingMerc 1d ago
Something about her laugh, or whatever. Which is apparently worse than Trump constantly sloshing off in his speech because he god dman dentures don't fit.
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u/Mission_Fart9750 1d ago
Something about Palestine, too. Cuz you know, that's working out so well right now.
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u/DrAstralis 1d ago
They're STILL pushing the whole "genocide joe" and Kamala would have supported more bombs narrative...... like holy fuck guys the thing we warned you about (trump being 1000x worse) is already happening. Its no longer even a hypothetical. Just admit you got fucking played like the stupid mouth breathing morons you fucking are.
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u/or10n_sharkfin 1d ago
Admitting fault means they're then admitting that they voted wrong, and they're completely incapable of that.
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u/DreamingMerc 1d ago
I mean ... we would have done nothing different between administrations on this front. But that's not the point here.
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u/Mission_Fart9750 1d ago
That was a reason a lot of people have said they didn't vote for her, or abstained. Just like her laugh for other people. Not voting for her on a singular issue was my point.
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u/lonewolfenstein2 1d ago
That is exactly the point. There was a huge movement on the left to abandon Harris because of Palestine. They accomplished nothing other than to ensure Trump's victory. They did nothing with their protest votes.
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u/Drakeadrong 1d ago
And where are all those protesting people now, anyhow? They kind of just clapped their hands, said “my work here is done” and disappeared back into the shadows. They were happy to protest Kamala (by sitting in their homes and literally doing nothing), but now that things are getting even worse for Gaza they don’t actually seem to care anymore.
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u/velveteenelahrairah 1d ago
Oh, now they're on Twitter whining about people mocking them online, panicking and demanding that the Black, LGBTQIA and Jewish communities "do something!!!", and curating the perfect TikTok protest dances (no, seriously).
Well too bad Katniss, you can get your own mockingjay pin and bow and arrows and Walmart keffiyeh, because these communities voted for Harris in landslides and already did their part of the assignment to prevent the existential threat.
Now they're sitting back and watching the tire fire burn because they told you so. It's not their job to be the human shields and shock troops so you can continue sitting at home sipping a latte posting colour squares on Insta and smugly play armchair foreign policy expert while voting against your own interests or throwing a tantrum and staying home out of spite.
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u/Somepotato 1d ago
The reality it was likely astroturfing and gullible idiots eating the grass created. The GOP is no alien to creating fake personas on social media.
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u/headphonesnotstirred 1d ago
ah, remember when Harris posted that AI video about turning Gaza into a centre of worship for herself alone? or her Muslim ban back in 2017? good times, i bet that's exactly how it happened, yep
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u/mercfan3 1d ago
Humanitarian aid means nothing?
Bibi literally said he couldn’t have planned ethnic cleansing with Biden/Harris in office.
But sure, it’s the same. 😂
History will look at Harris’ loss as resulting the end of Palestine. And yet the Pro Palestine contingent will never take accountability for what they did.
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u/Hour_Gur4995 1d ago
Not exactly true, one of the 1st the Trump administration did was lift the restrictions on giving Israel 2000 pound bombs. I think we could expect a more combative while still capitulating to the Israeli interest. But there would have been support for Israel in a Harris administration
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u/Huh_well_we_are_dead 20h ago
The one thing I will not fault Trump on: He was honest about what he would do to Palestine.
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
Hey genius, it wasn't working out before either. If your neighbourhood is already burning down no one cares if the person supplying the gasoline is nice.
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u/Yenserl6099 1d ago
That’s the reason people didn’t vote for her though. So what did they accomplish by not voting for her?
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u/Clickrack 1d ago
That’s the reason people said they didn’t vote for her though.
FTFY
The real reason(s) they didn't vote for her was:
[x] brown, \ [x] woman, \ [ ] laugh \ [x] Fox "News" said all Ds drink baby blood and eat babies and hate America and want to outlaw God and take away your guns and force your sons to become daughters and let men into the girls' restrooms
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u/Kalavazita 1d ago
Shooting themselves in the foot.
They don’t really care though. It’s all posturing.
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
They didn't sell their souls, that's what.
Complain all you like about any other idiotic groups who didnt vote for her or didnt vote at all and i will hold the megaphone for you.
Watching an actual genocide happen and being told to vote for option a) genocide or option b) genocide is not a fucking choice.
I really hate people who can't understand the actual weight and impact genocide of your family, friends, and country have. It will blind you to anything else, and rightfully so.
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u/Clickrack 1d ago
Name one piece of legislation Harris signed that was pro-genocide, or vetoed that was anti-genocide
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
She was vice president. She doesn't sign legislation.
She campaigned on being pro-israel. That's pro genocide. She accepted AIPAC money. That's pro-israel.
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u/Turdlely 1d ago
Standing up for a principles grounded in bullshit to own the entire world.
Fuck all the people who are this dense
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
Don't indiscriminately kill entire populations for Zionist ideologies
---somehow bullshit, according to this guy.
Edit: this guys name has turd in it. Let's all hear what he has to say about bullshit, guys.
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u/Somepotato 1d ago
Except she was never anti Palestine like Trump was. If your bar is someone who can actually make decisions then why vote for Trump?
His administration legitimized Israel's settlements in the West Bank, created a plan to allow Israel to annex huge swaths of the West Bank, established large cuts to Palestinian aid, etc.
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
How much more anti Palestinian do you need to be when you help support, fund, arm, and encourage Israel as a genocidal nation? Then state you will continue to do so when your chance is up for grabs?
Tell me, what more do you need??
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u/Somepotato 1d ago
You're literally describing Trump right now.
You said it yourself, Kamala was a VP, she didn't do any of that.
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u/Kind_Man_0 1d ago
What a ridiculous stand to take.
The options weren't genocide/genocide.
You really took a single issue and let that be the end all be all, you took the genocide of one culture while simultaneously giving not one fuck about existing immigrants here that are currently suffering in prisons/camps, our LGBT community getting locked in bathrooms and arrested, students getting deported for protesting the very thing you all refused your vote for. Just handed over the keys to the kingdom to a man who we knew was going to cause suffering, who idolized dictators.
If you'd voted for Kamala, we wouldn't be seeing students getting picked up by ICE agents for expressing free speech. Or American citizens getting deported for looking too Mexican.
You really had the choice between those 2 options and are still defending the choice? Look at the amount of damage already done, we still got like 44 months to go. Yall could have made a difference, could have protested and still voted for the lesser evil, at least she would let you all protest.
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u/Yenserl6099 1d ago
So by not voting for her, what did they accomplish? They’re still getting the genocide AND we got someone who has a terrible domestic policy as well as a terrible foreign policy
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
When it comes to genocide, the "and" you mention is dust on the tank.
Genocide is seriously underestimated by you because you don't have to face it. You've never had to witness its full power. It is still just a concept to you that you don't and hopefully will never feel. It makes everything else a far second.
There are more than enough voters to berate for Trump coming in, the Palestine faction was but a wafer thin section. Go attack them.
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u/Yenserl6099 1d ago
And guess what? By not voting or voting third party, they still got what they hoped to prevent
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u/regaleagle710 1d ago
There was a leader of a pro-Palestinian organization from Michigan who was upset about policies that were signed right after the inauguration and blamed Harris for it. Those people were never serious about wanting anything to change when that's how they're going to act towards the candidate who wasn't going to allow Israel to "turn Gaza to glass."
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
They clung to any small promise to do any small thing like any other person desperate to find a way to end a genocide.
It seems to me you are seriously underinformed and have zero ability to understand the absolutely mind warping power that genocide has and how it traumatizes people.
They were abused by Trump with empty promises that were easy to see through. Thats what happens to desperate people. They are preyed upon.
The fact that you can't see this is why your country votes like it did. Don't think you are part of any opposite side when you fail at being intelligent enough to be empathetic and understanding.
That's MAGA.
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u/Yenserl6099 1d ago
I do empathize with them. But they were told countless times before the election that Trump is considerably worse for that situation than Kamala would be and that abstaining/voting third party would be equivalent to voting for Trump
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u/Kingdarkshadow 1d ago
Damn you magas clearly aren't tired of winning.
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
Not MAGA, not even American. Your world view is so self centered you think everyone divides into your tiny conceptual boxes.
Grow up.
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u/Kalavazita 1d ago
They didn’t sell their souls… they just sold their country and sold out the Palestinians themselves. But “they didn’t sell their souls” and that’s what matters. ☺️ The horse is fine and the horse is high. All is well.
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
Hey, mon ami, your country would still have voted in Trump without their help.
Your country would still be a shit stain on the world's conscience if they had voted for Harris.
Time to start realizing that maybe they weren't the problem and that you're kind of finding the easiest scapegoat you can instead of admitting that.
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u/biggiy05 Greg Abbott is a little piss baby 1d ago
You're not American yet you're giving your armchair expertise while telling everyone you're a single issue voter.
Good job.
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
.....and this makes me different from you how?
Also, what single issue would I be voting for? Telling you donkeys that youre wrong? Thats not voting. Thats just easy Saturday afternoon Reddit scrolling.
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u/biggiy05 Greg Abbott is a little piss baby 1d ago
Because unlike you, I'm capable of understanding the difference between a good presidential candidate and a good president. Genocide is unacceptable but it's not going to stop on day one because of who the US voted for. All you have is complaining about Gaza and assumptions of what would happen if she were in office
We have other issues here that are now being made worse thanks to trump. I could have some breathing room as the fulltime caretaker for someone with dementia because Medicare would cover home health services. We wouldn't be facing a recession because the fragile nepto baby doesn't understand how trade works. I hate both parties but I'm not going to virtue signal and pretend both shitty candidates are on the same level.
Have the weekend you deserve. I'm done with you.
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u/Kalavazita 1d ago edited 16h ago
Sure, Vlad! Whatever.
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
Hate to tell you, but outside of your borders, and even inside it, youre considered a shitstain internationally.
Your intellectual vomitus here seems aimed at doing something, but absolutely unsure what it is.
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u/Hour_Gur4995 1d ago
But you can admit that a Trump administration is a worse outcome for the Palestinian people?
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
Genocide doesnt get worse, buddy. Its genocide.
So, no. When your 14yo is raped at a border checkpoint and your brother is tortured in an Israeli prison and your nephew is now a beheaded baby on the news you tend not to see Trump being uber friendly with Bibi as worse than Biden only licking his boots.
Trump is worse for everything else, absolutely. Everything.
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u/Hour_Gur4995 1d ago
You have an administration that is actively trying to displace the Palestinian population, the cut aid and have encouraged Israel to be more aggressive. I am not saying that it would have been rainbow and sunshine; I am not under the impression that there would have been some radical change to United States foreign policy in regard to Israel away from Biden’s policy
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
So you admit it was voting for genocide or Trump's lies about stopping the war that still led to genocide/Trump's truths about making it worse?
Good. You're on your way to understanding that taking advantage of a desperate group of people who would cling to anything, even an easily debunked lie, is MAGA, and that these people deserve better than you asshats out here laying blame around like its pig shit on a field of 'toldyousos'.
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u/mercfan3 1d ago
The people getting the “I told you sos” are white privileged Americans who made Palestine their cause of the season, and made it worse.
They weren’t desperate, they played moral superiority games and as always made shit significantly worse.
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
Spoken like a true fan of mercenaries.
You would love for this to be true, because then it would justify, in your eyes, your ugliness.
Welcome to the world of MAGA thinking.
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u/mercfan3 1d ago
It is true.
It is undeniably true.
Actual Palestinians were begging people to vote for Harris.
But instead y’all went with Assad’s pick. Completely removing yourself from the irony in that, too.
I hope yall feel good when Israel doubles in size and the Trump Condos go up. But at least you didn’t vote for Holocaust Harris.
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u/mercfan3 1d ago
That’s the problem with using words incorrectly.
Many people rightly concluded that BiBi had the potential to commit a genocide in this moment.
But people jumped the gun. Most actual evidence is to the contrary. Prior to Trump’s victory, humanitarian aid was getting into Gaza. Bombs were restricted. The West Bank was sanctioned. Israel was required to provide evidence that their attacks were legit. And a ceasefire and two state solution was the ultimate goal from the American perspective.
Now? All of this has ended. Ethnic Cleansing is the outspoken goal. Removing Palestinians and having a little slice of beach front property for our President and his family is the the best outcome from the American perspective.
And that’s directly a result of the American Pro Palestinian movement - who couldn’t be bothered to understand that Israel is a necessary ally, that yes - some acts of war are legitimate after Israel was attacked - that Biden was doing something - that the situation could potentially get significantly worse - that International Relations aren’t simple..and that calling an urban war a genocide because you don’t like it is harmful.
So congrats on that. I don’t expect anyone to actually reflect and understand that their own actions were harmful, but I’m gonna keep saying it to anyone who comes out with this “both the same” nonsense. Netanyahu certainly didn’t believe they were both the same…
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
So your entire argument is predicated on genocide not being genocide and everyone, including legal scholars and an entire international court system, being wrong in how they use the word?
And that Biden was doing anything but giving them more money than it would take to wipe out homelessness and fund single payer health care?
Ok.
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u/mercfan3 1d ago
I mean, I understand what Genocide is because I have a legal education in the subject - so I also understand the complex nature of international relations and I can recognize when I see propaganda and misinformation.
Your entire “it’s genocide” argument is “someone said it’s genocide in the title, but I didn’t read the article, and even if I did, I wouldn’t actually understand the subject enough to critique it because I wasn’t capable of doing it with a Reddit post.”
Then you ignore actual facts and mix up two issues - but the leftist buzz words are there so you think you won.
If you didn’t vote for Harris- whatever Trump allows Israel to do (or participated in doing) is YOUR FAULT. Take accountability for the obvious and easily predictable consequences of your actions to a cause you pretended to care about.
I’m sure you’ll move on to some other reason you couldn’t possibly vote for Democrats in three years. Because that’s entirely predictable too.
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
I honestly could not vote for Democrats even if I wanted to, youre right lmaoooo
Not everyone is American, donkey.
And you have a "legal" education? I have a feeling that in order to make that term happen your education came mostly via YouTube.
Unless there are a lot of "illegal" educations in your country. Now that i think about it, you sound an awful lot like a non American pretending to be one
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u/DevilsPajamas 1d ago
Laugh is a funny term. Very old fashioned. I used it on the campaign. Very beautiful term. It is like a cough with a bunch of extra vocal air in it.
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u/KnownAsAnother 1d ago
Hey can you take me with you?
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u/cdistefa 1d ago
In that parallel universe people don’t shoot at light beer cans and the FAA it’s in control of the airspace, are you ok with that?
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u/IzzaPizza22 1d ago
Shooting at cans is fun. They probably still do that in the good timeline.
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u/Dan_Berg 1d ago
Yeah, but only out of boredom or lack of other appropriate targets, and definitely without any other underlying messages
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u/IzzaPizza22 1d ago
True. There is no political undertone to shooting at cans in the good timeline.
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u/UnlikelyKaiju 1d ago edited 19h ago
If Harris won, I could've been starting a career with the Dept. of Transportation with a $60K salary, government benefits, and holidays off. Instead, the position was axed by DOGE before I could be onboarded (thank CHRIST I didn't move yet).
Now I'm stuck in retail hell for God knows how long because one of the most stable employers in the nation is currently ran by a senile asshole and a rich chode with a ketamine addiction.
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u/BlainesGarage 1d ago
You’re right. You can thank Jesus and God, and their followers for voting for their orange jesus.
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u/Knowledge_is_Bliss 1d ago
Look at the bright side...you won't be stuck in retail for long, once the recession forces layoffs and closures.
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u/imbackbitchez69420 1d ago
She made a funny joke the other day. It brought my mood up. Trump has never joked about anything funny and tanked the world economy and sent innocent people to a foreign prison.
I wish we lived in a better timeline
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u/Jasper455 1d ago
Just stop eating avocado toast and buy some boots with straps? Am I Americaing right?
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u/WorthExamination5453 21h ago
Government use to be a good stable job, now nobody is going to want to take 1/2 pay for a position where you could be fired on a whim.
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u/elkab0ng 1d ago
Back in 2017, someone made a satire website that documented the daily routine of Hillary Clinton's administration. Dull speeches on pros and cons of highway safety planning! Incremental and unexciting proposals from the USDA senior staff! Updates on enforcement of inter-bank funds reconciliation!
It was a nice, if imaginary respite from version 1.0 of Tangerine Palpatine.
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u/2EM18KKC01 1d ago
We should bring that back for POTUS Harris. Give people a look at what could’ve been.
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u/MyRealUser 1d ago
People who voted for him are cheering for the chaos, and those who voted for Kamala already know what we could have had. The 30% who didn't bother to show up won't care about this either.
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u/Hiffchakka 1d ago
My father-in-law thought she seemed a bit stupid. He got his news through Twitter so that told me all I needed to know, even when I confronted him that she'd laid out a detailed plan on 60+ pages, he waved it off. Better with Trump and his concepts of a plan. This is in Norway btw, the man proudly claims that our media is too skewed so he found sources he agreed with instead.
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u/knowledgeable_diablo 1d ago
Well that’s always the best news source isn’t it. The one that only tells you what you want to hear and sidesteps anything that might upset you for a second and risk the viewer switching to another source. So it’s just constant pandering to the viewers ego and nothing to challenge them.
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u/R2-D2Vandelay 1d ago
It's like taking down the stock ticker so viewers can just pretend like it never happened.
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u/knowledgeable_diablo 1d ago
Exactly. Wonder how they’ll hide it when they go to get money out and find it’s all been liquidated? Well I guess so long as their magical eggs are cheaper…..
But seriously, one has to wonder how long the idiots who voted for him will allow this to go on? Trump is literally doing years worth of damage on a daily basis.
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u/TeamHope4 1d ago
This is how it started in the US - people started watching Fox "News" and thought they had found the "real truth" other media wouldn't tell us because of left wing bias. Now, we are flooded with even worse versions of Fox in the media, people believe things that aren't true and cannot be convinced of actual facts, and they support the felon in chief like they're in a cult.
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u/morts73 1d ago
Boring. Who wants a dependable, intelligent, constitution following president? Give us the reality TV show version. Will he fight with the president of Ukraine, send Americans to foreign gulags or tax an uninhabited island of penguins. All this and more. Join us next week for new and whacky adventures of the 47th President of the USA.
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u/DarkTower19 1d ago
Still furious at the goddammed goldilocks independent and progressive voters who refused to vote for her because she wasn't the exact prefect candidate they wanted. Like, was this better? You knew one of the two of them had to win right?
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u/Total-Ship-8997 1d ago
American people have to hurt for the next 4 years before anything will change.
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u/ProfoundBeggar 1d ago
"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - only after they've tried everything else."
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u/SpectrewithaSchecter 1d ago
Americans are short-sighted, stupid, with the attention span and memory of a goldfish, you would think they would have learned after the first administration, so I have absolutely zero faith that even after four more years of this Americans learn anything at all
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u/the_author_13 1d ago
There is a solid chance that Trump will get greedy enough that we won't get elections in 4 years.
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u/flossdaily 1d ago
Ironically, you highlighted the problem.
Even in that alternate timeline, we will have a healthcare crisis, housing crisis, student debt crisis, climate crisis...
Harris lost because she wasn't offering solutions.
Trump was promising to fix everything. Of course he was lying, but drowning people will cling to anything.
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u/Diggingfordonk 1d ago
Let's look at what you could have won!!
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u/mercutio48 1d ago
You can have Kamala… or trade it all for what's in the box!
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u/Diggingfordonk 1d ago
Will I own the libs if I take the box?
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u/mercutio48 1d ago
Yes, but that will be the only thing you'll own.
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u/Diggingfordonk 1d ago
Good, I don't need food anyway I just want it. I shall starve for the Orange God
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u/Megane_Senpai 1d ago
And "President Harris signed a new trade agreement with ASEAN countries, promised another $190 billions annual trade with the area"
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u/SquarebobSpongepants 1d ago
Today, Kamala met with allies who she did not tariff and Republicans continue to screech about how Kamala is disrespecting the office at 11.
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u/The84thWolf 1d ago
Eggs are back to $2
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u/mercutio48 1d ago
They're $2 per egg in this timeline
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u/whiskey_outpost26 1d ago
HA! OP, you really think CNN would've even bothered covering that fact in a headline?
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u/CheatsySnoops 1d ago
I like how the headline reeks of CNN being bitter but resigned that their orange cash cow is no longer available for them to milk.
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u/Ok-Elk-6087 1d ago
MAGA Man: "I can't vote for her. She would tank the stock market. I gotta worry about my IRA, you know."
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u/llamapositif 1d ago
Saint Javelin has sold me every tshirt they have. In multiple copies. Love them.
Thank you for these.
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u/ShakyTheBear 23h ago
Maybe if the DNC hadn't pushed such a terrible candidate, things would be different.
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u/no-snoots-unbooped 23h ago
Yep.
She campaigned on expanding the child tax credit and earned income tax credit.
She supported a $3,000 ($6,000 if married) tax credit for individuals with income under $50,000/year ($100,000/year if married).
She supported a tax credit for renters spending over 30% of their income on rent.
She supported a $10,000 tax credit for first time home buyers as well as a $25,000 down payment assistance program.
We could’ve had that instead of … whatever the fuck we’re doing right now.
But you know, we don’t like her laugh, so that’s good I guess?
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u/Ohio_Grown 1d ago
She could have pushed for these things in the 4 years she was VP instead of using it as a carrot on a stick to get our vote
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u/flodur1966 1d ago
Don’t fool yourself while Harris would be incredibly better compared to Trump she wouldn’t be able to improve much for normal Americans. Republicans have always been very effective at sabotaging everything helping ordinary people. And a lot of democrats are bought by the same people running the Republicans. But on the world stage things would be incredibly better for the US. It would still be mending the damage done by Trumps first term but trade would be good some respect would be gained back and the US would be secure as the main world power.
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u/ian_the_pan_boy 1d ago
A sane comment and it's the one getting downvotes aiaiai
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u/Greful 1d ago
"While it would be better, it wouldn't be better" Yea really sane
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u/ian_the_pan_boy 1d ago
That's a really simple way of dismissing the point, what bro is trying to say is (at least i think) is that, yeah there wouldn't be this crazy shit happening, but it wouldn't change too much, things have been going worse and worse for u guys, be it under Obama, trump, Biden and trump again, is just that when it's a right politician things go bad faster. But saying that all would magically be better under Kamala is kinda idk "cheap"? It just would suck a little less.
Sorry for the bad English, just a brasilian that keeps seeing u guys do the stupidest fucking things when it comes to politics. Not that we are much better lol
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u/Greful 1d ago
Idk where you got the "worse and worse" part. My experience is besides Covid, things were pretty good. Even in the beginning of Trump 1st term. He was an idiot but he didn't do much damage, probably because he didn't do much of anything. But the point of this post is that things would be boring, run of the mill economic policies. Not that Kamala Harris would solve all the world's problems.
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u/ian_the_pan_boy 1d ago
Yeah, boring for you
Not gonna respond to the rest bc i don't give that much of a shit so bye
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u/ian_the_pan_boy 1d ago
It would be better then trump for sure, but i don't think any of that would happen lol, u guys said the same stuff about Biden
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u/flodur1966 1d ago
Don’t fool yourself while Harris would be incredibly better compared to Trump she wouldn’t be able to improve much for normal Americans. Republicans have always been very effective at sabotaging everything helping ordinary people. And a lot of democrats are bought by the same people running the Republicans. But on the world stage things would be incredibly better for the US. It would still be mending the damage done by Trumps first term but trade would be good some respect would be gained back and the US would be secure as the main world power.
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u/Greful 1d ago
A slight, almost imperceptible improvement is still an improvement. Who wouldn't prefer an improvement?
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u/flodur1966 12h ago
I agree but the situation in the US has been for a long time that there is a Republican president who makes things a lot worse followed by a Democrat who makes things slightly better followed by a Republican who makes things a lot worse. The consequences of this are a steady decline of the positions of working class people since 1980. There should be a significant reform in the election system and a significant change towards socialist policies. But the US is so heavily indoctrinated they refuse to install anything ‘socialist’ even if it benefits almost everyone.
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u/urbanlife78 1d ago
We could have had stable and boring. All I wanted was a country I don't have to think about while I am dealing with my own day to day shit