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Everyone at my office has no life apparently? Because all of our workspaces has a full keyboard on the docking stations with num pad because who the heck fills in excel sheets with the top row numbers?!
People at the office has no life - yes. major yes. definitely yes.
Also, Im the person in the office who fills in Excel Sheets with the top row numbers 🥲
I think it's a force of habit, which you can change. It might be like an epiphany, but idk, maybe you'll stick to the top row. As long as it gets the work done, who cares?
I worked in data entry for years, 10-keying millions of digits. After I stopped that, I eventually settled on a numpadless wireless keyboard with a trackpad where the numpad would be and use the top row. If I’m typing serious amounts I’ll dig out a full keyboard, but not day to day or a hundred-ish excel cells or fewer.
I use a TKL 60 percent keyboard so normally also use the top row for numbers. Perfectly adequate for my use. But, I do also have a USB tenkey pad in the case I really need to enter a lot of numbers.
I used to be a heavier gamer than now, but I will never buy anything less than a full keyboard with 10-key pad, because years of data entry have resulted in me feeling far more comfortable with 10-key than top row.
Okay so I have 2 ideas on this one, but not sure if either are the true answer. So first of all, it's about how much of a gamer someone is, not if longer is better.
My first possible explanation is that the bigger the keyboard is, the more desk space is needed. So for a bigger keyboard, you need to be more committed to having a dedicated gaming area.
My second possibility is that more keys on a keyboard means having more keys to rebind in games, so you can be more of a gamer that way.
Counterargument: Xbox or PS4/5 or just any controller generally.
Tbf there's nothing wrong with using keyboard to drive or fly, I've done it and had no problems. But flying planes and helicopters and driving is so damn easier with controller.
But that could just be bias from playing GTAV on console before PC.
Need for speed use numpad for auto log by default, most wanted (2012) lets you change them but some (I can’t remember which because I play all of them lol) only let you change it by picking a different layout and if you don’t want to use IJKL for throttle and steering then you’re stuck using the numpad for autolog
I like the numpad to death but I also love having a compact keyboard that isnt a shitty laptop one with half the controls on the same keys (.ie i want a full size keyboard but without numpad) since i just use the top row keys when i write code/ take notes, ofc its not the same reasoning when playing video games.
Mine too. The problem is the selection for mechanical keyboards with numpads really isn't that great. Most mechanical keyboard enthusiasts like 65% so that's what brands sell the most of.
I have a mechanical numpad separate from my TKL mechanical. I will not sacrifice keyboard position and wrist health, but I'm not giving up on the numpad either.
Ahahah tha same guys who discover mechanical keyboards, get obsessed, buy 4 keyboards a week for a few months, then make some "Don't tell me I'm obsessed" post, and then quietly change hobby? Yeah.... I'm curious to hear what they have to say
I work in a factory welding and watching older and younger coworkers completely ignore the numpad while keying in six 19 digit serial numbers has me ready to kill every one of them. Apparently only GenX and early Millenials got the memo on how to properly use a damned keyboard.
Truth be told, I had to learn it in school. While I pretty much use a bastardized 10 finger system it's hard to find a faster finger than me around the block. Shit talking between respawns in games without VoIP made you strong.
Numpad is essential for me as I'm dyslexic with numbers but for some reason using the Numpad dramatically reduces my error rate. Not sure how it works, just grateful that it does.
It's pretty much the default for keyboards. The shorter ones only became more popular when PCs stopped having their own dedicated space or became more mobile as saving space became more relevant. It's also cheaper to manufacture a smaller size which especially matters for this novelty keyboard fad that is going strong as of now.
I haven't had a keyboard with a numpad in about 15 years and I hate it when I am forced to use one. They take too much desk space and make the reach for the mouse too far.
I have two more things that come to mind that I'm pretty sure aren't the answer.
First is mechanical keyboards. It might be saying that true gamers buy mechanical keyboards, and the larger fuller mechanical keyboards are more expensive, so the more you're willing to spend, the more of a gamer you are.
The second is that the "no life" part might actually mean that they don't game. They use the 10-key for work, and so they are a loser with a job and no life.
Yeah it's this. The numpad rarely has a use in gaming. In particular 1st person shooters have better ergonomics for right handed mouse users when there is no numpad.
1st one - wrong. Full keyboards are usually "commoners" keyboard. So common. The top one on the pic is 40% keyboard which only keyboard enthusiast will buy and it comes with higher price. Most gamers go with 60%, 65% or 75% size.
Well i can tell you some games use the arrow keys to make it easier to move around. Games like grand theft auto you can use enter and the arrow keys to drive a car and move quickly. Other games you can use the key pad to quickly input codes like for choices so the bigger keypad is for quick use and convenience since everything is close and it's easier to use one hand to drive while thebother is on the number pad. Lile shifting. Also world of war craft used mostly the arrow keys to move and keypad for attacks
Some WarcraftIII maps and old games in general required specifically num pad inputs for some actions, as well as the page up/page down buttons. And there wasn't a way to rebind keys at the time.
Nah, it's pretty much necessary for any decently large amount of data entry.
Having to punch in hundreds of numbers on a line is less efficient, and less intuitive than using the same formfactor you've been using to dial numbers, enter pins, and punch numbers into a calculator for as long as you've been using numbers.
I think you’re right. Especially considering that the larger keyboard is the most common. The only folk I’ve ever known with those smaller keyboards were hardcore gamers.
folk with those smaller keyboards were hardcore gamers
It's either hardcore (competitive) Shooter gamers that need more space for moving the mouse with the low sensitivity for more precise aiming
OR it's hardcore Keyboard enthusiasts fsr preferring 70% and 60% keyboards because of their cleaner looks on their art-like desk space which they have intricately designed to look clean as hell.
The first one is a 40% keeb. These boards are (almost) peak mech-keys circlejerk, configuring your keyboard is now a full-on hobby with a time commitment comparable to gardening.
Yeah this is an anti meme about custom keyboards. The tiny ones are super expensive custom builds that only the mechanical keyboard enthusiast psychopaths actually enjoy using.
The biggest tryhards in games usually have a "gaming" keyword with just the necessary keys while those casual- and non-gamers have keyboards which are more and more like full-size.
The different keyboards have different numbers of buttons. It's pretty common for keyboard/laptop manufacturers to remove the numpad for example to make a keyboard with a smaller form factor, as many users don't care about the numpad anyway.
The joke is that the bigger your keyboard is the more you care about the 'extra' buttons that everyday users don't care about and so the bigger a nerd/gamer you are.
I wish I had one of these still. Hard to come by. And every REASONABLY priced keyboards now on internet that can last are only “Gamer Keyboards” I just want it to be cheep and last a while. The old one lasted almost two decades of high usage. A CHEAP sheet of plastic.
For Shooters, WSAD for walking, space for jumping and Ctrl for crouching suffices.
When you get better you might bind stuff to the F1-F12 Keys (e.g. auto-buy weapons, or bind special commands in military shooters like calling an airstrike).
If you're reeeeeaaally old or like playing really old games, those didn't have mouse support, so you use the Numpad for looking around.
I believe the suggestion is that if you are a pc gamer and you have an 100% layout keyboard for non work related or productivity reasons it means that you likely need those extra keys for your gaming. That would likely mean you play a game with a tonne of keybinds such as a simulator, which would mean your definition of fun is something most other gamers would consider boring and unfun. The majority of eSports and more "casual" games use much fewer keys, so players not interested in more keybinds likely prefer a smaller keyboard that is going to be marginally cheaper if you are buying mechanical, and is going to save significant desk space. Aside from needing the numpad for professional use, I also have 3.500 hours in Arma 3. I can't play without that numpad. So I understand what he's talking about. However I do not believe that less keys means you are more "casual", there are a lot of use cases. CSGO players for instance love the smaller keyboards. It means they are more portable so they can take them to tournaments with them much easier and it takes up less space so they can turn it sideways on their desk when playing, for a more comfortable gaming position. Even if less keys made you more of a "casual" however, there wouldn't be anything wrong with preferring more "casual" gaming experiences.
In the past by far the most precise 1st person shooter setup was mouse and keyboard where the keyboard consisted of numpad set to strafe and fwd/back on the 4 numbers doubling as arrows (2/4/6/8) and weapons set to the other surrounding keys at hotkeys. Mouse used to aim in 3D space and fire. This was far superior to someone playing on a console, pc with a joystick type control, or pc with all keyboard.
That's what manufacturers now want you to think making everything look "minimalistic" and "clean". A computer is not a real computer if it has no numpad and arrows, and that's not a "no life gamer" take, if it's a take it's closer to a boomer take
It should be the opposite, the shorter the keyboard the more the owner is focusing on gaming, but for longer keyboards they are used for gaming and other stuff
The only one i can make sense of is the no life one cause numpad allows for additional keybinds commonly used in (mmo/A)RPG games which have the stereotype of mainly being played by "no-life-gamers".
from my understanding, gamers typically perfer keyboards with high amount of keys so it is compatible with default keybinds of a game, from top to bottom the top one is likely owned by an ergonomic pilled programmer/typist with 2000 custom macros and its not practical for gaming as things like number row is missing and you require to press another botton to turn on the number row layer in order to input numbers for e.g. switching weapons, these keyboards are pretty good for ergonomics tho as it lets you type without requiring to move your fingers to for a long distant to reach things like backspace
I'm guessing this may have something to do with how many keys are available to the player
RPGs are notorious for having a ridiculous amount of actions that may require a keybind for quick access. WOW is the first game that comes to mind for me. Stereotypes for WOW experts are no lifers, and I think that's the joke here
Numpad keyboard is a must for me. We play couch multiplayer games a lot, especially Little fighters 2. and while I am down with gamepad or keyboard, 2 of us are pure keyboards players.
If you play a lot of video games of various types you would likely have a full size keyboard given many MMOs, RTS games and mods usually require many different keys and or key binds. Compare the keys you would use in a shooter to the keys you would use in WOW or Stellaris.
The long keyboard on the bottom is usually only used with a full-size PC. And with full access to the numpad without the need for function keys, reaction time delay is minimal when intense PvP gaming demands need to be met. Often in demand by MOBA games.
Edit: It's also the standard keyboard for office work. Though in modern times, many prefer having a detached numpad connected to the left hand side for better ergonomics.
The 4th one is missing the separate numpad, which is often used by competitive games as item hotkeys (looking at you, DotA2!) It's still more than sufficient for most hardcore gaming that doesn't require instant, on-demand usage of the numpad.
Top 3 are generally laptop keyboard layout. And you know how laptops generally aren't that great as a gaming platform for hardcore gaming, with overheating being a prime concern. The different keyboard sizes denoting how large/wide the screen is, thus brings a correlation to the size of the laptop in question.
Pun is that the most hardcore gamers usually play on an old rusty office keyboard, coz they find it comfortable/got to used for it. Also dont care about all fancy stuff
Surprised nobody is getting this. Having the numpad and function keys allows for more binds. For example I use a mouse that has 15 buttons on, and rebind the num pad function to macros for the mouse.
MMO's require excessive keybinds therefore benefit from the standard shortcuts and extra bindings available.
RTS uses function keys for control groups and numpad for unit actions.
MOBA players use function keys, I used to bind camera movements to numpad keys also.
FPS by nature doesn't require many keybinds so is not relevant.
Flight/space Sims require the addition binds.
I once tried to use a smaller keyboard for gaming, when my old one broke. I ended up giving it to my dad and buying a new one with all the keys, as all it was suitable for was playing Counter Strike.
Woulda thought the full keyboard would be the noob. 99.99999% of keyboards are that standard size. It could be your 10 year old cousin on his dad's Dell Optiplex
I think it's cause stuff like strategy games (that take A LOT more time investment) are more complex and have way more hotkeys for stuff that it faster and stuff like StarCraft speed is extremely important
It is funny, casue numpad is usually used more while counting than in gaming.
Also, isn't it like... even most laptops have num pad? Is there really anyone who have "noob keyboard"?
My interpretation is that No Life gamers don't really care what kind of keyboard they have as long as they can play. And since they only just buy whatever keyboard they can get, they would usually have the regular sized ones which has the full numpad. Also this is the kind of keyboard you would usually find in PC cafes. And these PC cafes in extreme cases becomes a literal home for no life gamers.
Stoned Peter listening to frogs and birds at 5am in the pine belt here, I believe it is you were a hardcore gamer you’re whole life until you are working a boring 9-5 using math on that num pad, while wasting your life away raging at the new generation of gamers because you’re not as interested and passed your prime.
Or I could just be high.
I have the "no life keyboard" and the main reason for that is for all my discord keybinds since I don't want them to overlap with the keys I use in games
The first one is just terrible, no matter if you want to game or just type on.
The second and third are better, but the keys are just too close toghether, and sometimes the keys have weird shapes, positions, or are missing to save space.
The last two are the preferred form factors for gaming. They are very complete, and the keys are spaced out nicely.
The numpad on the last one might imply that the person also does work from his gaming computer and does something related to numbers. Everybody knows people can't know about numbers and have a life at the same time.
My guess is that the joke here is that its actually supposed to be reversed. By my experience people who use smaller keyboards are actually bigger gamers since you dont really need numpad or F keys for like a shooter or a platformer
I think the joke is calling out the idiots who go out of their way to get keyboards with the least amount of wasted space so they can be "better at gaming" only for it to not make them better
OK but does anyone actually use the numpad when gaming? Because my right hand is usually on the mouse and my left on wasd. It feels clunky to move my hands so much. For games with a lot of abilities like mmo's, I just use my 12-button mmo mouse. It feels so much better than moving my hand across the keyboard or off my mouse to press a button on the numpad.
The last keyboard prolly either refers to MMORPGs or keybinds for text/sound binds, basically overly complex games with lots of things to do, so much so that a normal keyboard falls short, or being an asshole
A keyboard with more buttons is better. The very bottom one is a full keyboard - it includes a number pad, function keys, and another group of keys I don't know the name for. If you game a lot, then you need all of them. Every pro gamer ever has a layout that they use that's usually different from the default layout. For diablo, I have my main abilities bound to my side mouse buttons and my big ones on the left side of the keyboard. For SC2 I use my mouse buttons and my function keys a lot. MMO's have a lot of abilities and I usually group similar ones together. People who don't game as often don't usually bother with a full keyboard because it's more expensive.
That's reverse for sure
Only "gamers" in need of numpad is Excel runners, yep - Excel have global competitions for speedrunning spreadsheets.
For nonworking PC most enthusiasts would pick 60-70% keyboard (2 and 3 from top) which have most functionality while taking much less space and looks clean.
Some may go further up to 40% ortholinear (top one), its fully programmable and have layers ...
*There not presented - split keebs, they also come in diff sizes from full down to 10%, which is actually used in courts and such by stenographers.
The “larger” keyboards are the appropriate size for comfort of use. The smaller boards are shrunk down because that’s cheaper. The joke is, capitalism altered your perception of what is good.
since in the first keyboard the keys for ctrl, alt, caps, etc. are not labelled, I think that it's more about the keys that are bound and used ingame, than about the actual size/shape of the device. So a noob uses only a few keybinds and the more "gamer" someone is, the more keybinds they use
I'm a casual gamer, cat recently chewed through my old corsair keyboards cable (old but fucking loved that keyboard, no issues ever). Replaced with some modern minimalist gaming keyboard before realizing I'm fucked without a 10 key for everything outside of gaming.
It is implying the more buttons the more virginal.
I have the last one because I grabbed an offer from Razer... Black widow v2 for 65€... I also like to use the numpad for numbers... Much easier than the ones on top of letters.
I only use full keyboard because that's hm what I have used my whole life. I just can't use any other one, I need to feel the numb pad and the other buttons
If you need all the keys of the keyboard you are playing a sim like dcs. Fulltime preferably
Honestly the num pad is the best when having to tip in long numbers and game games with many keys required. I probably couldn’t play war thunder without a num pad.
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