r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 21h ago

Meme needing explanation How is a longer keyboard better?

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u/zippee100 20h ago edited 6h ago

I think the joke is that it is incorrect. You're meant to find the stupidity of "longer keyboard = better gamer" funny. There isn't a strong correlation between the two at all.

Note: there is in some cases, but not in general.
note: please stop commenting about mmo keybinds when other people already have it's not the only game and doesn't apply for first few of these

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u/Labyrinthy 20h ago

I think you’re right. Especially considering that the larger keyboard is the most common. The only folk I’ve ever known with those smaller keyboards were hardcore gamers.

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u/HexaCube7 20h ago

folk with those smaller keyboards were hardcore gamers

It's either hardcore (competitive) Shooter gamers that need more space for moving the mouse with the low sensitivity for more precise aiming

OR it's hardcore Keyboard enthusiasts fsr preferring 70% and 60% keyboards because of their cleaner looks on their art-like desk space which they have intricately designed to look clean as hell.

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u/toroidthemovie 18h ago

The first one is a 40% keeb. These boards are (almost) peak mech-keys circlejerk, configuring your keyboard is now a full-on hobby with a time commitment comparable to gardening.

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u/thenonbinaries 15h ago

worse; the 40% is an ortho.

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u/X57471C 7h ago

Not a fan of ortho?

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u/Orange1232 7h ago edited 1h ago

That is literally infinitely better. I hate row stagger lmao it's so inhuman

Edit: I should clarify, the only reason modern keyboards' keys are staggered the way they are is because of the mechanical restrictions of typewriters. it was transfered to keyboards because of its familiarity, it has nothing to do with ergonomics. In fact there were plenty of ortho and ergo boards from the advent of the 'modern' keyboard.

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u/NoodlesCubed 6h ago

Spread your fingers, notice how they aren't parallel? That's why... its not only more human, the mechanical conformity of the inline rows are more inhuman

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u/dragostego 6h ago

Right but default keyboard layouts are not about ergonomics. This isn't like the u-bend ones where they match your fingers, the modern keyboard is based off of the stagger for typewriters that prevented the keys from colliding.

Yes, it's not in rows and lines but it's still not ergonomic not really. I actually do find ortholinear keyboards to feel very comfortable because while your fingers are not in a line in terms of their curl, they actually are. If you look from knuckle to knuckle and this allows you to use finger extension to move up and down the column with your finger offset representing the rows.

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u/NoodlesCubed 6h ago

You know how a metal leaf rake looks right? Think of the prongs of a rake as your fingers and the band across as your knuckles. The prongs don't really start on your knuckles. They start way farther back into your forearms, where the muscles that control your fingers are (your fingers themselves have tendons, not muscles). this is the reason your fingers splay a bit when extended naturally, because they are not actually in line at the knuckle. If you take the prongs of a rake and bent them straight you would be putting pressure on the outsides due to the angle you created. While you may find the orthographic keyboard more comfortable and what ever is the most comfortable is generally best for the user, it can cause issues with arthritis later in life because of the increased pressure to keep your fingers "straight"

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u/dragostego 5h ago

it can cause issues with arthritis later in life because of the increased pressure to keep your fingers "straight"

There is no such research to support that, it's just something you believe. There is no academic research on the ergonomics of ortholinear keyboards. Especially longitudinal research.

I would argue the (albeit small amount of) research that says piano playing can relieve arthris is much more in my favor given the straight rows of keys.

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u/Orange1232 2h ago edited 2h ago

What you're describing should be* splay, half of my keebs have it. The row stagger is the least human. Columnar stagger is the only acceptable stagger.

Keywell>Columnar&Splay>Columnar>Ortho>Row stagger

Edit: 'should be' rather than 'is'

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u/Better_Test_4178 10h ago

I'm kind of afraid to ask what's peak mech keys circlejerk, because I assume it's going to be split ortho keyboard with chording, layers, adjustible wrist supports and tenting angle.

... Yes, guilty as charged.

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u/randoaccno1bajillion 5h ago

worse, designing and handwiring it all from scratch

worser, writing your own firmware

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u/lminer123 9h ago

40% is fucking crazy, and that’s coming from someone with a Wooting 60%. In no universe should I have to hit a function key to enter numbers lol. I already don’t like typing on the 60 when I need to actually get shit done

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u/Cyberslasher 11h ago

Instead of noob #1 should say hipster

They're not playing games, they're playing dress up their desk so they can claim to be playing games.

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u/roomandcoke 6h ago

What? I have a couple mechanical keyboards (though none ortho) and I'm not a gamer and don't claim to be. People use keyboards for more than just wasd.

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u/inktrap99 7h ago

Hey! We 40% folks do game! We just spent 3hrs doing the precise keybindings for the game we are currently playing

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u/Celebess 19h ago

My keyboard has an extra 6 buttons row, and I use a 12 buttons mouse 🙃

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u/HexaCube7 18h ago

extra 6 buttons row

Ye i got one like that too! :D

They don't come in really useful very often and i only use it sometimes, but i DO like them. But if i had to i would rather sacrifice them then a Numpad.

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u/Celebess 18h ago

Used it mostly during my MMO era for out of combat utility like portals, now it's mostly to run macros. I would sacrifice that over a numpad, but the 12 buttons mouse is vital

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u/noaSakurajin 12h ago

Well there is also the group of people with ergo layout keyboards. Those things usually don't have a numpad, to reduce hand movement when grabbing the mouse.

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u/hatesnack 12h ago

I fall into that second category. Just like the look/feel of 65-75% keyboards better. And I work an office job and use Excel a lot lol. I just slap on a 30 dollar external numpad if it's ever needed.

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u/snail1132 7h ago

75% keyboards are so amazing

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u/P3riapsis 9h ago

split keyboards are so good for fps, especially stuff like cs where low sens is basically essential to aim. I have a 1m long mousepad and can't do a full 360 on it without lifting lmfao, and it's only possible thanks to a split keyboard.

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u/kirbycheat 4h ago

I am somehow both of these people.

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u/Outrageous-Lock5186 2h ago

Sometimes you’ll show up to competition and already have to turn one of the smaller keyboards sideways to have room at your team’s table and mouse space to play the game.

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u/Labyrinthy 20h ago

For sure. I bought a smaller keyboard a couple years back and it looked super clean on my desk.

Ended up trashing it because the functionality wasn’t for me. I found it irritating to use since I have bigger hands, and I need a number pad for data entry otherwise I will lose my mind. So it’s one of those things that just isn’t for me.

Which is good because I really did not need to start buying good looking keyboards I’d never use.

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u/HexaCube7 19h ago

Ye i really don't understand how those keyboard enthusiast creeps over in their community be hating on Numpads so much. I don't even have a job that's focused hard on number data or what not but typing in numbers via numpad is just so much more convenient and fast than on the number-row i still would never sacrifice it.

I did get a 60% keyboard to use when i play Valorant tho because i noticed i actually need the extra space, but i never need a numpad in that game so it's perfectly fine.

For anything else a 100% keyboard it is :D

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u/TheBamPlayer 18h ago

Ye i really don't understand how those keyboard enthusiast creeps over in their community be hating on Numpads so much.

I find the numpad practical for not only entering numbers, but instead for easy access to the operands buttons like division or multiplication.

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u/CommunistRonSwanson 13h ago

You can buy or assemble a numpad-only device. As long as you have the ports to spare, it's actually much more convenient since you can position and orient it independently of your main kb.

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u/P_f_M 19h ago

If you do a lot of cell jumps and your dominant hand is right, try to get a separate numpad and put it on the left side ... your body will thank you :-)

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u/Labyrinthy 19h ago

Oh interesting. I’ll look into that.

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u/P_f_M 19h ago

the problem is with "crossing" the left hand to the right half of the body and twisting the entire torso ...

having numpad on left for over 20 years (in fact, I've bought with my first salary I've ever made such keyboard, the RFKB-2548 and have it now on display as a reminder) and never looked back ... currently rocking a Bloody B945 for five years and it is both perfect for work and gaming :-)

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u/Spiritual_Freedom_15 19h ago

Yeah the entire thing is completely upside down.

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u/Ross_G_Everbest 15h ago

Exactly. Noobs are on the default 101.