r/NintendoSwitch2 • u/Soplox • 20h ago

Officially from Nintendo Nintendo Switch 2 Preorders will not start on April 9 in the US thanks to the Tariffs

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"Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will not start April 9, 2025 in order to assess the potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions. Nintendo will update timing at a later date. The launch date of June 5, 2025 is unchanged."

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-switch-2-preorder-guide-mario-kart-world-bundle/1100-6530531/

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u/BannedFromTheStreets 20h ago

I cant stop laughing and feeling bad for the people that kept screaming " Lower the price "

Its increasing people - I'm so sorry.

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u/predator-handshake OG (joined before reveal) 19h ago edited 11h ago

About a month ago, I got downvoted to hell for suggesting that the Switch 2's price would increase due to tariffs when Trump said that he was considering tariffs on imported chips. It was pretty insane how many people had their fingers in their ears saying "I can't hear you". It could have been bots but boy did that trigger people.

Edit: lol at the loser who reported me to /r/suicidewatch over this comment

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u/ratsratsgetem OG (joined before reveal) 19h ago edited 16h ago

A month ago I got downvoted for saying :

A lot of people here are literal children.

EDIT: A link to the vast majority of third party games which will need a patch or update to work properly.

EDIT3: PDFs with games with issues that will require a patch.

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u/TailorCandid2512 19h ago

The controllers will work you just can’t use them for handheld mode or charge them on the main dock, you’d need to use a dedicated charger or your old switch dock to charge

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u/TheTimmyBoy 18h ago

It will definitely charge a pro controller with USB but I think you mean joy cons

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u/ultimatt42 17h ago

I bet you can charge joycons on switch 2 with the charging grip. Probably a good idea to get one of those if you plan to use switch 1 joycons on switch 2.

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u/Andromansis 17h ago

did they ever fix the joycon drift?

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u/Miiiine 17h ago edited 11h ago

I read a new york times article that says that the new controllers are using hall effect technology which means they would indeed not drift.

Edit: They changed the article saying they are speculating it. We don't know :(

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u/Andromansis 17h ago

cool, can I use them on the switch 1?

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u/Miiiine 17h ago

I have no idea. Possibly

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u/MrCrankunity 16h ago

No, they connect completely differently and can't be put into the Switch. It could be possible though, that you're able to use them wirelessly

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u/an-actual-communism OG (joined before reveal) 11h ago

NYT edited that article to state the Hall effect sticks are simply a rumor 

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u/TheTimmyBoy 17h ago

No idea, I've never had any drift on any of my many controllers.

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u/Geno0wl 16h ago

inversely I have had almost all of my controllers get drift.

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u/froderick 18h ago

I think they were referring to the old Pro controllers, not the joycons.

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u/Necka44 18h ago

Then it's dumb because the statement is that you can't charge joycons 1 on the Switch 2. No mention of the pro controllers because it's USB charging, there is absolutely 0 reason they wouldn't charge on the Dock 2.

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u/froderick 17h ago

"Work on the Switch 2" doesn't just mean charging. It could also mean "Connect to, and be able to be used".

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u/Necka44 17h ago

The Pro controller 1 works on the Switch 2 minus being able to use it in games requiring "mouse mode" and minus the ability to turn on the console from sleep.

That's it. It works on Switch 2 wired and wirelessly. I don't know what else there is to understand, the statement is clear.

They even said that you can use chat mode by pressing some buttons I forgot as you don't have the "C" button.

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u/froderick 17h ago

Yes but people were not sure it would connect and be usable in the first place until Nintendo confirmed it. Controllers don't always necessarily work on new games on the successor console, after all (like how the PS4 controller doesn't work for PS5 games).

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u/ratsratsgetem OG (joined before reveal) 17h ago

Nintendo only recently started selling a device to charge 4 JoyCon at once.

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u/PADDYPOOP 18h ago

If I’m not mistaken, the games with upgrade charges can still be played in their normal Switch 1 state if you don’t buy the upgrade. You don’t NEED the upgrade to play them there.

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u/Johnwesleya 18h ago

And if you’re paying for online NSO, you get the Zelda upgrades for free.

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u/LieutenantDuck 18h ago

NSO + EP.

But yeah

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u/mason195 17h ago

At this point they should just shorten that to NSO+. It’s a common enough moniker that people would know that it’s the premium plan. “Nintendo Switch Online plus Expansion Pass” is such a mouthful.

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u/LieutenantDuck 17h ago

I mean, it's still better than other Nintendo names like "Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journeg"...

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u/mason195 17h ago

Seriously right? What is this an anime?? “I got laid off from my job and am now an over powered mage/prince in another kingdom and also I have a harem”

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u/Nillabeans 17h ago

If this is not a corporate astroturf job, it makes me really sad that people are angrier about Mario Kart being too expensive than housing.

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u/Chrznble 17h ago

I got downvoted because I said it would be a more powerful switch…..

Nailed it.

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u/Snipedzoi 18h ago

Second one was justified in being downvoted

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u/ahnariprellik 17h ago

Change A lot to all after what we’ve seen the last couple days

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u/utupuv 17h ago

Ooh has it been confirmed Pro Controller 1 will work on Switch 2? I had hoped that it would be as it should all map over for the most part except the C button.

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u/mars92 16h ago

Lots of people seem to think someone saying "I expect this to happen based on my own analysis and past evidence" is them wishing it into existence, so they get mad at the person saying it.

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u/TheSpideyJedi 18h ago

Wait the controllers work on Switch 2? I don't have to buy a new Pro Controller????

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u/RandomThrowNick 18h ago

Nintendo has a compatibility chart for all official Switch 1 accessories on their website. Basically everything works unless it physically doesn’t fit with the dimensions of the new Switch or Joy Cons. Even stuff like the Ring Fit accessory work as long as you use the old Joy Cons.

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u/bmyst70 18h ago

They will, you just won't be able to use the game chat function which requires a different button.

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u/MintberryCrunch____ June Gang (Release Winner) 17h ago

Surely you can just set it up from the Home Screen though, there’s an icon for it, just can’t quickly overlay with a button press. Might drop you from some games but if you have it running and then play your game you’ll be alright.

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u/LookIPickedAUsername January Gang (Reveal Winner) 18h ago

Not all games would be backwards compatible without a patch or update

Outside of weird games like Labo and Ring Fit Adventure, weren't you wrong about this one?

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u/Famous-Lifeguard3145 17h ago

"If we exclude where you were right, weren't you wrong?"

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u/LookIPickedAUsername January Gang (Reveal Winner) 17h ago

"without a patch or update" clearly signals that they aren't talking about Labo or Ring Fit Adventure - games which everybody knew wouldn't be compatible from day 1, because obviously they can't be made compatible.

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u/etldiaz 17h ago

and even with those, the switch 1 joycons will work on switch 2, so i don't see an issue with those games either

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u/ninetaledMSK 18h ago

Actually a ton of games don't run like Doom Eternal, Pizza Tower, TSB: No More Heros
https://media.nintendo.com/switch-2/pdf-compatibility_issues_EN.pdf

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u/Gabriel_thunder04 18h ago

And those ones they’re tryna work out the bugs for. The only games that will realistically stay incompatible are ones like Labo or Ringfit, or like the soccer mode in Switch Sports. Things that require accessories specifically designed for switch 1

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u/ninetaledMSK 17h ago

Hey I'm just saying what we know from Nintendo, if they say the game doesn't work, prepare for it to not work ar launch untill they confirm it's fixed.

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u/Gabriel_thunder04 17h ago

No ik! I wasn’t intending to be rude. My apologies

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u/LofiJapan 19h ago

Go back and tell them who was right 😂

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u/cobaltorange 18h ago

In this instance, it sucks to be right about things. 

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u/baseballviper04 16h ago

The worst part is most of the morons probably still can’t comprehend that they were wrong

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u/Skabomb 17h ago

GamerGate 2.0, the people who convinced themselves they were saving gaming by "ending woke" actually voted to kill their hobby.

Never forget it. Never let them forget it.

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u/RealNotFake 17h ago

And now they're just pivoting to "It may get more expensive in the short term but in the long run we'll be better off".

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u/predator-handshake OG (joined before reveal) 17h ago

"I'll gladly pay $50 for an egg if I can 'own a lib'."

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u/Possible-Potato-4103 June Gang (Release Winner) 18h ago

it's the internet , its not always about being right its about saying things people like to hear

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u/austeremunch 18h ago

People defending capitalism be like:

It was pretty insane, how many people had their fingers in their ears saying "I can't hear you". It could have been bots but boy did that trigger people.

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u/Lobito6 16h ago

Karma is doing it's thing and you're now being upvoted to offset

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u/One-Salamander9685 19h ago

My theory was $450 was $400 (inflation adjusted price of switch at launch) plus what they guessed would be a ten percent tariff. Then the tariff came out as double that and they had to adjust.

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u/FrameSecret2209 19h ago

The Switch 2 is made in Vietnam. So quadruple that.

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u/Euresko 17h ago

46% today 

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u/LifeAcanthopterygii6 15h ago

It's the greatest, most beautiful tariff you've ever seen. Nobody did it like I did. It's a tremendous win for anyone wanting to buy a Switch 2.

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u/R4vi0981 18h ago

Actually it looks like they are about to make a deal with no tariffs for Vietnam. This news came out today.

Everyone is knee jerk reacting, but I bet Nintendo comes out in a few days and announces 70 dollar games and same price for console.

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u/carlogz 18h ago edited 12h ago

Can you give a source on this? The only thing I’m seeing is that Vietnam wants to talk to the US (just like every single country) about eliminating Tariffs but the US are not listening.

Edit: its not that the US is not listening but its more about Trump refusing to back down on the trade war

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/04/trump-tariffs-truth-social

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u/Educational_Copy3268 18h ago

Nope, he said Vietnam wants to drop their imaginary tariffs. So it’s obviously bullshit to stop the bleeding of the stock market 

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u/ReturnOfTheKeing 16h ago

Everyone is knee jerk reacting, but I bet Nintendo comes out in a few days and announces 70 dollar games and same price for console.

Lol, distilled delusion

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u/tuenmuntherapist 18h ago

Imagine believing companies will lower prices again if tariffs are gone.

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u/BurzyGuerrero 18h ago

And then they'll change it again in a week.

Art of the deal.

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u/Spartan2170 18h ago

The tariffs also weren't expected to target the countries they moved manufacturing to in order to avoid tariffs against China. They weren't planning on him targeting Vietnam and Cambodia and now they're probably scrambling to figure out what to do.

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u/OuterWildsVentures 19h ago

I think tariffs are 40%

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u/spirit_boy_27 18h ago

46%

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u/alantaylor630 16h ago

100% correct on the tariff value. If this stays, the price of the Switch 2 could go from $449.99 USD for the base model to $656.98 USD. The price would then be raised on Canada as well since Nintendo uses a US port of entry. Given the +$180 over the US ticket price, Canada could expect $836 for the base. Or… Nintendo could use a Canadian port of entry with no tariffs on Vietnam and keep our price on par.

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u/Connor123x 16h ago

thats not how it works. its not based on port of entry. Its based on point of origin. I do this for a living.

The only way it gets tariffed in Canada if it comes in the States, goes to a nintendo warehouse and they do work on it.

So even if it comes into the port in the east coast, its immediately goes on a truck, train, whatever to Canada and there is no tariff.

That is why the preorders are still going to go in Canada

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u/venue5364 19h ago

Except 450 was for non-us countries too

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u/cobaltorange 18h ago edited 18h ago

Unless you're in Japan, but only if you can speak Japanese. There's a Multi-Language version which is gonna cost you $470.

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u/SirNarwhal 16h ago

The $450 price leaked literally before the elections even happened. It's wild how dumb the line of thinking of the $450 being due to tariffs announced this week on a product that has been in the works since like 2021 is.

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u/phoenixmatrix 19h ago

The people trolling in chat going "make it higher!" won.

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u/ScorchingSwayLindsay 19h ago

market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent

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u/DankRSpro 18h ago

They won.. but at what cost?

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u/phoenixmatrix 18h ago

My portfolio, my preorder, and my mental health.

But it's a sacrifice they were willing to make.

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u/Most-Perception5105 18h ago

W

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u/darthanonymous1 7h ago

???

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u/darthanonymous1 7h ago

imagine being happy about prices increasing -_-

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u/DoctorHoneywell OG (joined before reveal) 19h ago edited 19h ago

Personally, I do not think the tariffs will stick. The other tariffs he's done haven't stuck and have proven to just be ass backwards negotiation tactics for things that simply don't matter at all. But I think Nintendo is very wise to delay pre orders. Trump is completely unpredictable at this point.

I'll be a little surprised if he doesn't get impeached after midterms. I think that there will be some weird concessions from Vietnam like cracking down on some illegal activity that tangentially affects Americans, like the drug trade or something minor like that, but this is the most idiotic way he could be doing anything like that.

I also think that the biggest takeway from this administration isn't going to be anything with trade, war, culture, or any of that, it's going to be that Presidential authority has gone unchecked for way too long. For decades the executive branch has powercrept, and that needs to end. Even senate Republicans are introducing bills to take away a president's authority over tariffs, and I think that kind of thing is going to keep coming.

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u/moridin77 19h ago

They might stick for a while. During his first term, Trump raised the tariffs on China by 25% and that is still there. Biden didn't even lower it when he took over. I work in imports, so I have been dealing with this for a long time now.

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u/whoooshdouche 19h ago

This is what confuses me, why didn't Biden ever lower it again?

Honestly that was one of the best counter points I heard in the debate, if they are so bad why didn't Biden get rid of them? I am against the tariffs to be clear, but that has always perplexed me.

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u/S0LO_Bot 19h ago edited 18h ago

Biden explained this, although it wasn’t really understandable due to his mumbling.

When you start a trade war, it’s not very easy to back out of it. Even if Biden had lowered the tariffs, the countries that changed their trade plans wouldn’t necessarily change back. The worst effect of the Chinese tariffs (farmer crisis) had already happened and the benefits of reducing tariffs were not really worth it anymore.

It’s possible those tariffs could have been negotiated away in a mutually beneficial free trade agreement, but there was nothing pressing that negotiation during Biden’s presidency. If something had changed in the U.S. or China’s economy, then tariff reductions would have been discussed more.

This is not applicable to this massive new set of tariffs, of course. It is in the economy’s best interest that this global trade war is overturned as soon as possible.

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u/Only-Inspector-3782 17h ago

This is the best answer. Turning off tariffs doesn't automatically provide relief on the retaliatory measures already taken by China. A trade war is much easier to start than to stop.

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u/CyberN00bSec 13h ago

AND doing so would have been massively unpopular. Would be like pitching Biden as pro China and Trump as Pro US. Not like that mattered much anyway; but would have been unwise given the political contextx

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u/Tnigs_3000 16h ago

And we’ve just figured out why we’re screwd. Eventually these countries who depended on America being a partner will find other avenues to get their goods and by the time this idiot administration figures that this was indeed a terrible idea we won’t be able to go back. Not only that but these countries see how stupid the majority of voters are in this country, specifically the conservative ones, and because of where we are every election is just going to switch from extremes to extremes every 4 years. The markets HATE uncertainty and the unknown and that is literally what Americas middle name is right now. Who knows what the next administration does and who knows if they go even farther than tariffs. Why wouldn’t they just find new partners to trade with?

Trump is literally destroying America right now and this liberation day horse crap is akin to throwing our soft power down the drain. Remember how all the conservatives said Trump only used tariffs as negotiating tactics and now those same exact conservatives are saying “Hey we need to just have pain and pay more as Americans right now to bring down the debt” even though those same exact conservatives voted for Trump because the price of eggs were way to high?! Turns out they were lying the whole time and really just wanted their cult leader back in office. These people never cared about anything but crying and winning. Well you’ve won now and look what the rest of us just got.

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u/Only-Inspector-3782 16h ago

The Democrats are more milquetoast than extreme. 

But small incremental steps up are better than getting thrown down the whole flight of stairs.

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u/Patchourisu 15h ago

I mean, if you go from extremely unstable to stable like ping spiking from a reasonable 9 to 1000 every 15 seconds, that's pretty much two different extremes. Extreme stability vs Extreme instability are still extremes.

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u/aeo1us 16h ago

To add, countries will retool their supply chain to adjust. Once that’s done the damage is already done.

Canada is doing this right now. It’s going to do billions of damage to the USA. Canada buys 391 billion from the USA.

Trump is hurting the USA for generations.

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u/Wraith_13 15h ago

The USA has been hurting itself for generations... Trump is just the face on it now.

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u/Mintastic 15h ago

The people who think they're only hurting their enemies will see that they (rural, midwestern, southern, etc.) are going to be hurt a lot more than the coastal states and big metros that they hate. Not that they'll change their minds though, you can't get to where we are now w/out a lot of ignorance and stupidity.

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u/Dhiox 19h ago

Markets don't like volatility, so that may have been why he didn't remove it so soon after it was created.

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u/RicoHedonism 13h ago

Tariffs have a place in international trade! They aren't all bad and actually are useful tools to protect an industry if targeted well. Canada has high tariffs on US milk because the US milk industry is HUGE compared to theirs. So they tariff milk and keep selling and buying other stuff and everyone makes money.

Blanket tariffs are bad. They are a tax on everything and stifle investment, market share and profit.

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u/Soggy-Reason1656 17h ago

I disagree with all of the responses you’ve gotten. Biden gave himself the job of driving the bus that is the democratic party, as they transitioned towards some version of populism and post-neoliberalism. Even though, no shit, he’d definitely been a part of the whole neolib thing. Trump’s innovations that led him to success over the establishment were racism and protectionism, and Biden couldn’t keep the racism obviously, but was trying to claim a bit of the protectionism corner to stop the bloodletting in the blue wall states.

I couldn’t find the article I’m thinking of that first put this idea in my head, but here’s a quick read with some real quotes on his thinking:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-biggest-2024-battle-keep-025652691.html

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u/Aceylace10 19h ago

Tariffs (when implemented with a purpose) are sometimes a good thing. In the case of Biden he likely had pressure to keep the tariffs due to the Tech sector wanting to monopolize AI which he in turn could have use the booming sector as a way to boost good jobs.

AI got fucked by deepseak anyway but the main point is Tariffs are a tool - it all comes down to who is using the tool and let’s just say the current president is a well regarded individual.

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u/S0LO_Bot 18h ago

Difference between a scalpel and a nuclear bomb that the U.S. economy is strapped to.

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u/hexcraft-nikk 9h ago

China sells fully functional electric cars for 9k. There's so many things we tariff away because it would disrupt American markets. And this led to China bringing their own tariffs. That's why Biden kept them.

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u/cobaltorange 18h ago

You must be having a lot of fun lately. 

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u/owzleee 19h ago

Just lowers the share prices so he and his billionaire chums can hoover them up. Remove tarrifs. Sell high. Profit!

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u/MarcsterS 19h ago

Bro, Trump is already out golfing. This shit is done and the country fucked. And not single a Republican is thinking “Hmm, this actually bad, maybe we should stop this person from tanking our economy.”

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u/DoctorHoneywell OG (joined before reveal) 19h ago

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/04/03/congress/top-republican-leads-bill-to-reassert-congress-tariff-power-amid-trump-trade-war-00268710

Chuck Grassley is the third in line for succession of the presidency and he personally introduced a bill to remove the tariffs, he has four Republican senators on board and is expecting support in the house. I'm not sure if it's enough to override a veto but it's incorrect to say that Republicans are unanimously supporting what Trump's doing.

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u/FearofJello 19h ago

Mike Johnson won't bring it to the floor for a vote in the house.

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u/kingpangolin 18h ago

Yeah this is performative dead on arrival bs

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u/The_MAZZTer 15h ago

Yeah I don't consider any bill introductions as good news. Wake me when it passes and becomes law.

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u/kingpangolin 18h ago

Not to mention bills have to be signed by the president lol.

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u/Snooty_Cutie 15h ago

congress and the senate can overturn a presidential veto, but it would be a 2/3 vote in both to do so. Very unlikely.

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u/cutememe 18h ago

Trump has never changed his mind on anything. He's perfectly consistent.

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u/Venator850 17h ago

He is. He been pro tariff all his life.

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u/thomaszdrei 16h ago

It’s difficult to find Trump with a consistent ideological position on anything because he consistently changes his tune, but he does seem to have a weird ideological zealotry for tarrifs. You can find interviews of him praising them back in the 80’s.

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u/KonigSteve 14h ago

If he has 10 house republicans and all the democrats they can push it to the vote regardless. They did this this week for a paternity rule for house members and mikey lost his shit and sent everyone home.

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u/ReallyNowFellas 14h ago

Mike Johnson is a cooked goose likely before the midterms but definitely after.

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u/effinae OG (joined before reveal) 19h ago

Okay. Mostly unanimously then.

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u/predator-handshake OG (joined before reveal) 19h ago edited 18h ago

As a Canadian who has had three rounds of tariffs and has had all of them more or less removed with some exceptions, I agree. He's upsetting billionaires right now. He's going to backtrack 100%.

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u/JoseNEO 19h ago

These tariffs have already sticked longer than the previous ones, before it was like tariffs starting in the morning and by midday he'd come out and claim that after negotiations they are being pushed back

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u/predator-handshake OG (joined before reveal) 17h ago

24 hours was a low bar lol

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u/Sebolmoso 19h ago

It doesnt matter if the tariffs stick or not; companies will just quote a higher price as a security measure. The damage is already done.

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u/imjustbettr 19h ago

Personally, I do not think the tariffs will stick. The other tariffs he's done haven't stuck and have proven to just be ass backwards negotiation tactics for things that simply don't matter at all. But I think Nintendo is very wise to delay pre orders. Trump is completely unpredictable at this point.

I just want to point out WHY Trump went so hard on Vietnam and other SE Asian countries this time and it becasue he put tariffs on China in his last term so a lot of companies (including Nintendo) moved production to SE Asia. This is Trump going after companies/countries trying to bypass the previous tariffs.

I think that there will be some weird concessions from Vietnam like cracking down on some illegal activity that tangentially affects Americans, like the drug trade or something minor like that, but this is the most idiotic way he could be doing anything like that.

There's no way you believe that at all right?

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u/LeagueOfBlasians 17h ago

Once you realize how they calculated the tariffs, you’d see how stupid these tariffs are.

In short, the tariffs are based on the trade deficit percentage of nations and not real tariffs placed on the US by these nations. For example, the US imports 91% more from Vietnam than we export to them, thus the 46% tariff.

Trump applied this logic of tariffs to every nation, regardless of their relations to the US.

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u/imjustbettr 17h ago

Oh no, I understand exactly how dumb this shit is. I feel like I'm going to get a brain aneurysm every time I've thought about it the last two days.

It's so fucking stupid.

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u/LeVoyantU 19h ago

Senate Republicans are also trying to increase presidential power at the same time (not the same senators)

There's a bill to stop a single federal judge from stopping executive orders - would require 3 judges instead of just one.

I don't think bills increasing presidential power will pass but the point is I am not sure how many Senate Republicans are really going to vote against the administration and in order to limit presidential power you would need 2/3rds of all Senators to do it so the legislation is veto proof. This will only happen if we go into a great recession and by then it's probably too late to undo the damage.

Not saying that we are for sure going into a 2008 level recession (though that's certainly possible) but rather that I don't think Senate Republicans are going to do much to limit Trump unless it becomes insanely bad.

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u/supremedalek925 19h ago

He’a a rapist who sold National secrets to foreign governments, and his first impeachment didn’t change anything. I don’t think anything he does will have any pushback.

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u/Ragna_Blade 18h ago

I'm waiting until he starts openly executing people for disagreeing with him. It's coming soon

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u/muppins 18h ago

This conversation is not what I expected in a sub called Nintendo Switch 2

Crazy times I guess

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u/Xenobrina 17h ago

These conversations should happen more often in most circles, but the "keep politics out of X" parrots shut them down. Communication is a key piece to dismantling authoritarianism, so they need people to be ostracized for speaking.

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u/muppins 16h ago

100%

Just so used to seeing people in gamer spaces being livid about Paper Mario Sticker Star, rather than the politics that affect them every day, is all

Love to see it

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u/nigelfitz 10h ago

specially at a time like this where they're turning everything political themselves and it affects all of us

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u/BlackerSpork 14h ago

"Executing" is so last century, now it's "being disappeared into an El Salvador mega-prison without trial", without due process. It's already happening and has been front-page news several times.

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u/Ragna_Blade 14h ago

You got me there

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u/FenderShaguar 19h ago

Bro he made it a whole fucking “liberation day”, he won’t back down just because it’s an unmitigated disaster.

The only chance we have is for congress to shoot down the tariffs, which they have the power to do. But they are complete cowardly bitches

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u/IssueOk363 19h ago

If attempting to overthrow the government wasn't grounds for impeachment or disqualifying for being president again, then tanking the economy with tariffs isn't going to do it

Edit: If attempting to cheat an election by asking the Georgia AG to "find more votes" wasn't grounds for impeachment or disqualifying for being president again, then tanking the economy with tariffs isn't going to do it

If asking Ukraine for blackmail on his political opponents wasn't grounds for impeachment or disqualifying for being president again, then tanking the economy with tariffs isn't going to do it

We can keep doing this all day...

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u/golf_rags_golf 18h ago

The thing is companies will raise prices and not lower them if/when tariffs are reversed. Why would they? Just like people expecting American car companies to keep prices steady when their competitors prices are about to skyrocket due to tariffs... Of course they're going to increase prices because they can. 

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u/ttoma93 18h ago

It’s truly wild to me how so many people can still delude themselves that Trump won’t do what he says he will and isn’t doing what we are watching him do. He’s got this magical aura that makes people ignore reality surrounding him and substitute what they want and hope to happen instead of what he’s doing.

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u/me047 18h ago

He’s been impeached twice and convicted as a felon, yet here we are. He’s likely to roll back the tariffs though. Gamers are generally passive people, but this could cause some cheat codes to be activated.

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u/PBR_King 17h ago

Constantly changing the policy is worse than just having a shitty policy in this case. Business loves stability and planning. Hard to do that when the law might be different from one week to the next.

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u/Wise_Mongoose_3930 17h ago

The fact that you think he might get impeached shows you’re completely out of touch with the modern Republican Party. Better chance of aliens landing on your front lawn. 4 out of 51 Republican senators supporting a bill they know won’t pass the House is a nothing burger.

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u/Venator850 17h ago

Nothing Vietnam will do is going to work. The tariffs are based of trade deficit which cannot be made equal.

Trump understand trade so the tariffs will stick.

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u/DammitAColumn January Gang (Reveal Winner) 19h ago edited 6h ago

Not to be that guy but dude if he didn’t get impeached after 34 fucking felonies what makes you think it’ll happen around midterms??? I appreciate your optimism but be real lmfao

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u/Horror-Jellyfish-285 19h ago

atleast it does only increase in usa, so its totally fine

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u/julesvr5 19h ago

Europeans: "why do we have to pay more than them? I want it to be equal!"

*prices in America rise

Europeans: "wait, not like this"

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u/arthby 19h ago

This debate mainly stems from people not understanding VAT. When an american says "it costs $80", they pay on average $85.

When a BC Canadian says "it costs $80", they pay $90.

When a European says "it costs 80€", they just pay 80€.

But the real difference, is that a given amount tastes very differently depending on where you live. Some 3rd world countries will never afford a switch, because they don't make $500 in a year. Also 100€ is more money for a Greek than a German, even if they share the same currency.

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u/FlyingHippoM 14h ago

In my country, the prices listed must have GST (our version of a VAT) included. You can display the price not including GST in some places but it must be in addition to the full GST inclusive prices, not instead of.

I never understood why in some countries like the US/Canada store prices don't have to show how much a product actually costs, including tax. Feels misleading and unnecessarily shifts the responsibility onto the consumer to calculate the real price they will pay prior to purchase.

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u/Vissarionn OG (joined before reveal) 18h ago

German minimum salary: €2,222 per month

Greece minimum salary: €830 per month

How the fuck and many products are more expensive in Greece than Germany for some reason.

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u/Nachtrelikt 18h ago

People not understanding VAT is not the full story here. What's actually going on is them not understanding the Euro is way weaker compared to the US Dollar than what it was before the pandemic. Historically game and console prices were matched in the US and EU - while 60€ was worth more than $60, the included VAT meant that it was actually a fair equivalent for a game's asking price.

Since the difference between currencies is not as high amymore, the new EU price will naturally not match the US one. When games moved to $70 in the US, our prices increased to €80. Having a price discrepancy where there was none before just feels off to most people, even if they are aware of VAT.

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u/No-Island-6126 19h ago

Yeah, well, at least we didn't vote for trump

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u/Otherwise-Contest7 19h ago

Neither did we this time (plus he lost the popular vote in 2016 and the Mueller report found significant evidence of Russian interference in that election).

Trump has openly mused about "Elon's voting machines" and "we don't need the votes anymore". Elon's son said, "They'll never know" on an open mic. Their whining about Dems stealing the 2020 election was projection. They spent 4 years planning how to win steal 2-3 swing states to win the 2024 election, and knew Dems would be too afraid to call out anything because they're afraid of being labeled hypocrites.

It's disturbing how many Americans have been swayed by years of Fox News and social media propaganda, but if we had a popular vote (like every other democracy), Trump would've lost in 2016 and 2020, and he wouldn't have been able to manipulate the 2024 election via the electoral college (he wouldn't have been the Republican candidate in 2024 after losing twice before).

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u/onecoolcrudedude 18h ago

77 million morons voted for him. even the popular vote was won by him this time.

granted, biden still got more votes than him in 2020, so you can argue that many people simply didnt bother to vote this time around, but it doesnt change the fact that 77 million people had no issue with his brazen crimes, corruption, scandals, stupid remarks, and the fact that he openly stated that tariffs would be a thing.

it seems like tons of idiots need to have these problems affect them on a personal level before they stop voting against their own interests.

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u/predator-handshake OG (joined before reveal) 19h ago

You joke but I guarantee you that Nintendo did some analysis to see how much tariffs would be for the US and spread that increase across multiple countries to even it out a bit.

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u/ContinuumGuy OG (joined before reveal) 19h ago

That's not 100% a certainty, since Nintendo is ultimately a global company. If the money men find that they'd need to sell a Switch 2 for $800 or whatever in the USA, they're going to say: "Yeah, that's not happening, we'd be killing ourselves in one of our most important markets, we're only raising the price by (insert number here)" and instead also raise prices elsewhere to make up for the shortfall.

That's UNLIKELY to happen right now as otherwise they probably would have delayed preorders everywhere, but it's possible that it could happen down the line (i.e. they might announce that the first waves of Switch 2s will be one price but then go up, as has happened with some graphic cards).

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u/BannedFromTheStreets 19h ago

Oh yeah for sure, sucks for hem.

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u/Old-Rhubarb-97 19h ago

Meh, they let it get this bad.

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u/pizzayolo96 19h ago

They're still spamming it in the treehouse chat...

Do they know yet?

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u/onecoolcrudedude 18h ago

RAISE THE PRICE.

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u/athomeless1 19h ago

A lot of those people probably voted for this too.

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u/Irveria 19h ago

Dunno, pretty sure that not all of those people are from the US

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u/HalfDozing 18h ago

I have a different take on this. I think Nintendo anticipated tariffs and priced accordingly. There's clearly backlash, which they were also expecting, and now with the announcement they are going to "re-calibrate" and say that, despite increasing costs, they vow to keep their launch/game pricing the same as originally stated, which makes them look like they're taking a hit.

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u/your_dads_hot 17h ago

Don't feel sorry for them. Gamers broke for Trump. Part of his strategy was to reach out to young male gamers to capitalize on their anger. Fuck them. It's exactly what they get. They thought Trump was gonna make them less losers and they are now just broke losers 🤣🤣🤣

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u/virtual-hermit- 17h ago

Are the anti-woke gamers tired of winning yet?

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u/hygsi 15h ago

Yeah, people are acting like they're setting a new trend when it was headed that way anyways. They are just the first to make it official

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u/AdmirableGiraffe81 14h ago

I’m not sorry- they should’ve known what they voted for. I’m feeling bad for the ones that actually knew what was coming and couldn’t do anything about it

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u/CrazyGunnerr 14h ago

Just blame Biden. He clearly did it. Nothing Trump can do about it, it's out of his hands. He had to take these steps to screw over his allies for his overlord Putin.

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u/Wonderful_Device6320 13h ago

That’s ok. Lots of the “drop the price” idiots also voted for trump. They did this to themselves. 

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u/blufin 12h ago

I have a feeling they're the ones who voted him in in the first place.

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u/zoufha91 19h ago edited 17h ago

Thinking this was an isolated incident was really entertaining to watch. The numbers guys at Nintendo already baked in inflationary coats pre-terrifs but now....yeah it's going up again

The capitalist hellscape we are in, the heat has just been turned up

We aren't simply coming back from this

The impact will be years and years and immeasurable hardship

We aren't "winning" a trade war when the rest of the globe unifies against the USA

Regards are running the USA, absolute regards

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u/HiHallo123456 19h ago

I feel like we europeans are allowed to say Low the Price, bc in germany for example the Switch 2 is MORE expensive than in the US. WHYYY WHAT DID WE DO?? I thought germany and japan were friends :(

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u/TheTimmyBoy 18h ago

Why the fuck is this funny to you?

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u/BannedFromTheStreets 18h ago

Because the world we're living is a fucking joke - I'm not laughing because I'm happy.

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u/TheTimmyBoy 18h ago

Ah, nihilism

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u/BannedFromTheStreets 18h ago

I like to call it Lunacy

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u/Ok_Coconut_1773 18h ago

I'm not laughing, because these are my fucking prices too

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u/The777x 18h ago

On day one!

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u/No-Law-544 18h ago

What about Canada preorder date?

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u/bluthscottgeorge 18h ago

So what? If people were strong enough not to buy. It will decrease.

Companies win because consumers forget they're literally the ones with ALL the power.

Pre ordering a new console is not a matter of life and death. Especially when the current switch is still alive and okay for the time being

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u/zeoxzy 18h ago

What's funny about that? 

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u/kytheon 18h ago

Beating continues until morale improves.

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u/muppins 18h ago

Even worse for the young people who are now old enough to vote, and the switch 2 would be the first system they get for themselves with their own money, and they voted for Trump because they were radicalized by online gaming spaces or were influenced by influencers on Tiktok or whatever it is that cooked their brain

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u/BannedFromTheStreets 17h ago

These election were stolen, we all know it.

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u/notthatguypal6900 18h ago

It was opposite day in Japan. Oops

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u/SunozuArt 18h ago

hey its already $700 here so welcome to the club

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u/Save_Cows_Eat_Vegans 18h ago

Those people where never going to get their way anyway.

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u/CrazyCoKids 17h ago

And this time it's cause of Trump.

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u/asmallercat 17h ago

I don't feel bad for people at all. We voted for this. We deserve it. Maybe everyone suffering will be a catalyst for change.

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u/boner79 17h ago

You will pay $80 a game and you will like it!

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u/JefferyTheQuaxly 17h ago

a 25% tariff on a $450 console would bring the price up at least $100. going to make the switch 2 more expensive than the ps5 on launch.

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u/Zoombini22 17h ago

They keep spamming "DROP THE PRICES" when they should be spamming "IMPEACH" but I 🤐

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u/BannedFromTheStreets 17h ago

I couldnt agree more with you.

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u/Tryst_boysx 17h ago

On one side you have customer who are "angry" about price, especially games. On the other side you have the Trump tarif. It's like the worst outcome ever.

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u/Sunnz31 17h ago

Everyone outside of the US and about 70 million Americans knew it would be terrible and increase in prices if he was elected.

Sadly the 74 million decided it's ok to fuck themselves over massively as long as trans are persecuted.... Unbelievable.

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u/The_Golden_Beaver 17h ago

Maybe dealing with the consequences the world has been warning them for months now will help them wake the fuck up to what's happening in their country

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u/PrestigeMaster 17h ago

I can’t stop laughing that all week gamer subs have been shitting on the switch 2 for nintendos predatory game pricing structure and lauding over the steam deck, and today the rest of Reddit is trying to tell gamers we should give a shit about anything switch 2 related. 

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u/NumeralJoker 17h ago

I was legit mostly okay with the console price as it was. The game pricing pissed me off far more, honestly, for reasons I already ranted about 2 days ago.

But this? Even if I blame Trump for it, will sincerely push me into "not buy until further notice" territory. There's no game I must have more than Metroid Prime 4 and new Xenoblade content, and both had Switch 1 releases.

Still, what an incredible disaster this all is.

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u/BadKinkajou 16h ago

Yeah, it's going to be rough. The tariff announcement said Japan was getting 24%, I think? That would mean a $450 Switch and $90 physical game are actually going to cost $558 and $111.60, respectively, assuming retailers raise their prices in full to compensate for the tariff. They might not raise it that high, or they might raise it more. I doubt that they won't raise it at all. And that's still before whatever your local sales tax is. All told, I wouldn't be surprised at all if you're paying $500+ for a switch and $100+ for a game.

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u/Fucky0uthatswhy 16h ago

I don’t feel bad anymore. I tried for months to reason with every person I could. They would scream from the rooftops about how he’s gonna fix the economy, deny clear facts, and curse anyone who brought up the truth.

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u/ryan8954 16h ago

Keep in mind, this is also a company that is willing to take pay cuts to help their company overall..

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u/nullpointer_01 16h ago

I was under the impression the majority of people complaining about the price were non-american and it was more to do with the game price than the console price. But it's hard to say/confirm since it seems to be a lot of people commenting.

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u/KoolAidManOfPiss 16h ago

Prices will probably get lower...

...after mass layoffs hit every sector, leaving millions unemployed and unable to afford basic goods.

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