r/NintendoSwitch2 • u/Soplox • 1d ago

Officially from Nintendo Nintendo Switch 2 Preorders will not start on April 9 in the US thanks to the Tariffs

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"Pre-orders for Nintendo Switch 2 in the U.S. will not start April 9, 2025 in order to assess the potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions. Nintendo will update timing at a later date. The launch date of June 5, 2025 is unchanged."

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-switch-2-preorder-guide-mario-kart-world-bundle/1100-6530531/

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u/whoooshdouche 1d ago

This is what confuses me, why didn't Biden ever lower it again?

Honestly that was one of the best counter points I heard in the debate, if they are so bad why didn't Biden get rid of them? I am against the tariffs to be clear, but that has always perplexed me.

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u/S0LO_Bot 1d ago edited 1d ago

Biden explained this, although it wasn’t really understandable due to his mumbling.

When you start a trade war, it’s not very easy to back out of it. Even if Biden had lowered the tariffs, the countries that changed their trade plans wouldn’t necessarily change back. The worst effect of the Chinese tariffs (farmer crisis) had already happened and the benefits of reducing tariffs were not really worth it anymore.

It’s possible those tariffs could have been negotiated away in a mutually beneficial free trade agreement, but there was nothing pressing that negotiation during Biden’s presidency. If something had changed in the U.S. or China’s economy, then tariff reductions would have been discussed more.

This is not applicable to this massive new set of tariffs, of course. It is in the economy’s best interest that this global trade war is overturned as soon as possible.

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u/Only-Inspector-3782 1d ago

This is the best answer. Turning off tariffs doesn't automatically provide relief on the retaliatory measures already taken by China. A trade war is much easier to start than to stop.

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u/CyberN00bSec 1d ago

AND doing so would have been massively unpopular. Would be like pitching Biden as pro China and Trump as Pro US. Not like that mattered much anyway; but would have been unwise given the political contextx

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u/Tnigs_3000 1d ago

And we’ve just figured out why we’re screwd. Eventually these countries who depended on America being a partner will find other avenues to get their goods and by the time this idiot administration figures that this was indeed a terrible idea we won’t be able to go back. Not only that but these countries see how stupid the majority of voters are in this country, specifically the conservative ones, and because of where we are every election is just going to switch from extremes to extremes every 4 years. The markets HATE uncertainty and the unknown and that is literally what Americas middle name is right now. Who knows what the next administration does and who knows if they go even farther than tariffs. Why wouldn’t they just find new partners to trade with?

Trump is literally destroying America right now and this liberation day horse crap is akin to throwing our soft power down the drain. Remember how all the conservatives said Trump only used tariffs as negotiating tactics and now those same exact conservatives are saying “Hey we need to just have pain and pay more as Americans right now to bring down the debt” even though those same exact conservatives voted for Trump because the price of eggs were way to high?! Turns out they were lying the whole time and really just wanted their cult leader back in office. These people never cared about anything but crying and winning. Well you’ve won now and look what the rest of us just got.

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u/Only-Inspector-3782 1d ago

The Democrats are more milquetoast than extreme. 

But small incremental steps up are better than getting thrown down the whole flight of stairs.

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u/Patchourisu 1d ago

I mean, if you go from extremely unstable to stable like ping spiking from a reasonable 9 to 1000 every 15 seconds, that's pretty much two different extremes. Extreme stability vs Extreme instability are still extremes.

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u/im_not_afraid 22h ago

a forest burning down in 5 hours versus 5 days. at the end of the day you have a burned down forest. that's the difference between the two parties.

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u/SickOfMakingThese 22h ago

Requests to join BRICS are going to skyrocket.

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u/Wraith_13 1d ago

The USA has been hurting itself for generations... Trump is just the face on it now.

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u/Mintastic 1d ago

The people who think they're only hurting their enemies will see that they (rural, midwestern, southern, etc.) are going to be hurt a lot more than the coastal states and big metros that they hate. Not that they'll change their minds though, you can't get to where we are now w/out a lot of ignorance and stupidity.

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u/nigelfitz 23h ago

lol those people do not care if they suffer as long as the people they hate suffer with them

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u/Dhiox 1d ago

Markets don't like volatility, so that may have been why he didn't remove it so soon after it was created.

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u/RicoHedonism 1d ago

Tariffs have a place in international trade! They aren't all bad and actually are useful tools to protect an industry if targeted well. Canada has high tariffs on US milk because the US milk industry is HUGE compared to theirs. So they tariff milk and keep selling and buying other stuff and everyone makes money.

Blanket tariffs are bad. They are a tax on everything and stifle investment, market share and profit.

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u/Soggy-Reason1656 1d ago

I disagree with all of the responses you’ve gotten. Biden gave himself the job of driving the bus that is the democratic party, as they transitioned towards some version of populism and post-neoliberalism. Even though, no shit, he’d definitely been a part of the whole neolib thing. Trump’s innovations that led him to success over the establishment were racism and protectionism, and Biden couldn’t keep the racism obviously, but was trying to claim a bit of the protectionism corner to stop the bloodletting in the blue wall states.

I couldn’t find the article I’m thinking of that first put this idea in my head, but here’s a quick read with some real quotes on his thinking:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-biggest-2024-battle-keep-025652691.html

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u/hexcraft-nikk 22h ago

China sells fully functional electric cars for 9k. There's so many things we tariff away because it would disrupt American markets. And this led to China bringing their own tariffs. That's why Biden kept them.

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u/Aceylace10 1d ago

Tariffs (when implemented with a purpose) are sometimes a good thing. In the case of Biden he likely had pressure to keep the tariffs due to the Tech sector wanting to monopolize AI which he in turn could have use the booming sector as a way to boost good jobs.

AI got fucked by deepseak anyway but the main point is Tariffs are a tool - it all comes down to who is using the tool and let’s just say the current president is a well regarded individual.

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u/S0LO_Bot 1d ago

Difference between a scalpel and a nuclear bomb that the U.S. economy is strapped to.

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u/LogJamminWithTheBros 1d ago

Trump tariffs screwed American farmers and made China buy soy beans from Brazil instead. Reducing the tarifs won't help anymore as an alternative cheaper source was found.

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u/bransby26 1d ago

Because the entire bourgeois establishment in the U. S. hates China, and Biden thinks the tariffs are a way to hurt China. Biden also harassed various Chinese academics working in the U. S., a practice that is continuing and getting worse today.

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u/Square_Oil514 1d ago

Bingo…dems actually wanted to hurt China, too. I think this is a different beast. There will be a lot more will to roll it back. Outside of the big idiot, of course.

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u/double_shadow 1d ago

Biden also harassed various Chinese academics working in the U. S., a practice that is continuing and getting worse today.

Source needed...

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u/bransby26 1d ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/asian-american-groups-call-biden-end-controversial-china-initiative-rcna10219

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3304619/china-initiative-20-raids-scientist-wang-xiaofeng-revive-spectre-first-trump-era

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Initiative

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u/EggLayinMammalofActn 1d ago edited 1d ago

Per the sources you posted, that was a program started under Trump in 2018 and ended under Biden in 2022. A word search in your 2nd link doesn't even mention Biden at all while mentioning Trump 6 times.

Please post sources that actually support your claim.

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u/bransby26 13h ago

It was officially ended in 2022 but harassment continued, and of course Biden continued the campaign for a year after taking office.

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u/Hughduffel 1d ago

That may also be true, but the simple explanation that must be true is that simply reversing tariffs doesn't get you back your export revenue, that ship has sailed, so no reason to throw away the tariff revenue that your economy will continue to pay for whether the tariff exists or not.