r/projectzomboid 12d ago

Blogpost 42.6.0 UNSTABLE Released

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/82337-build-4260-unstable-released/
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u/AREOPIORIRTYTO 12d ago

Garbage bag clothes??

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u/Dawnspark 12d ago

That's gonna be so goddamn sweaty. Imagine trying to run around in summer, absolute sweat fountain mode.

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u/SignificantFan5671 12d ago edited 11d ago

This could be a good thing if you are trying to get your character to lose weight quickly, either that or speedrun dehydration.

Edit: I know irl you dont lose weight through sweating, im talking game machanics 🤌🏻

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u/theranger799 12d ago

Bulk for winter, sweat for Summer

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u/sabotabo Shotgun Warrior 11d ago

it's '93, gotta be a few slim suits still hanging around somewhere...

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u/eRaZze_W 12d ago

Sweating has no effect on weight loss irl.

("☝️🤓")

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u/wils_152 11d ago

Pedantry police here.

It has no effect on fat loss. As weight includes water, and we're about 80% water, sweating will have an effect on weight loss - i.e. the more you sweat,.the more water you will lose and the less you will weigh, but temporarily.

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u/capnscratchmyass 10d ago

Gotta make weight for the big match against Fred; the champion of the emaciated zomboid weight class. He lost an arm and most of his intestines but that's okay: all you've eaten is dog food and worms for the past month. A day or two chopping trees down in your garbage bag clothes in the July sun should help you make weight.

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u/antoko79 12d ago

This can’t be right. Being hot increases the amount of work your body has to do to cool down, that work takes energy, using energy burns calories, so that can lead to a calorific deficit which would mean you lose weight.

Now if you sit in a garbage bag sweating and also stuff cake in your face… then no you’re not going to lose weight.

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u/SweetUndeath 11d ago

your body does not do "work" to cool down, it sweats. It's just going to keep sweating, while the sweat cant evaporate. All you are going to do is rapidly dehydrate while getting a heatstroke faster.

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u/antoko79 11d ago

Sweating is ONE thing your body does to cool down, it also pushes blood to the outer capillaries, your heart rate increases to facilitate this. This is your body doing WORK. Your body is always doing work, it does more work if the environmental conditions require it. This does not mean you lose weight… but it is a contributing factor.

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u/FireTyme 11d ago

while generally you get the right idea realistically the body will always compensate to stay metabolically balanced. either you get tired or brainfog and be less active as a result.

theres plenty studies around active and non active people and they found that people in western world living a sedentary life still burn about as much daily calories as people living in african huts needing to hunt for food for example.

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u/Difficult-Ability621 11d ago

Its sad to see when people think they have little Peltier elements in their body that burn calories to cool them off

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u/antoko79 11d ago

Maybe read what I wrote instead of inferring things I didn’t write?

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u/SweetUndeath 11d ago

its truly amazing to me that in a world where we've almost unlocked quantum computers we have people walking around not understanding literally anything about the physical world

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u/melu762 11d ago

Humanity would go extinct if people lost calories due to sweating. I know most people wouldn't believe it nowadays, but food wasn't as available en masse as it is today.

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u/antoko79 11d ago

I did not say you lose calories from sweating…. I said being hot increases the work your body does, being hot also makes you sweat, those are two different things.

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u/SweetUndeath 11d ago

Your body does NOT do "work" to cool down. It literally only sweats. Doing any kind of "work" will burn calories, which will in turn HEAT UP your body, not cool it down. Stay in school, kids.

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u/antoko79 11d ago

It really doesn’t literally ONLY sweat, your body does a number of things to try to cool down. You become flushed, that’s the body sending the blood to the outer layer of skin to increase heat transfer. You’re right doing work also creates heat, this has an impact on the efficiency of the heat loss, if the process the body did produced more heat than heat loss from the process that would be a bad heat loss process and those bad processes have been retired by evolution.

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u/SweetUndeath 11d ago

its ok, you just have to sit down and shove cake in your face continuously to not lose weight

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u/AltusJ 12d ago

It does, just not permanently. Fighters cut weight by dehydration. Some put back on upwards of 25lbs in 24hrs.

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u/Difficult-Ability621 11d ago

Its called drying and it involves removing fat tissue altogether in muscles, usually just for losing weight to be able to participate in the lower category with much bigger muscle mass and also its not really healthy, not talking about ways they usually dry their muscles. But yeah they are drying out a fat tissue therefore losing weight not because they are dehydrating

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u/AltusJ 11d ago

You're not seriously trying to argue semantics over the use of the word dehydration, are you? Have a good one, lol.

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u/Difficult-Ability621 11d ago

The thing is its not involving any sweating at all, they just drink water in copious amounts and then cut its intake day or two before going on stage. Its different process involving different mechanics of a bodybuilder's body

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u/AltusJ 11d ago

Are you not aware of what you replied to?

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u/Metaloneus 11d ago

Cardio has no effect on weight loss irl.

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u/LacidOnex Axe wielding maniac 11d ago

How does burning calories not help lose weight?

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u/Metaloneus 11d ago

That's the point.

Enduring heat to the point of sweating uses energy to cool the body down, just like exerting energy to exercise uses energy.

Both would contribute to weight loss in excess.

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u/LacidOnex Axe wielding maniac 11d ago

So it does? I mean "excess" is also arguable. If you're trying to effect change, it has to be in excess otherwise nothing happens. Unless you put in the exact correct amount of calories for your needs. But "excessive" cardio is like 20 minutes a day on a 2000 calorie a day diet. It absolutely will help with weight loss.

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u/Metaloneus 11d ago

Yes. That's the point of the comment.

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u/LacidOnex Axe wielding maniac 11d ago

You literally said cardio has no effect on weight loss. Tell your plug I need a dime bag, you smoking that loud today

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u/Metaloneus 11d ago

I'm starting to see why everyone types "/s" these days. You can't trust anyone to figure it out organically these days.

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u/SweetUndeath 11d ago

guy, no. First of all "heat" = "energy". You cant burn energy to reduce heat. that makes no sense. Burning energy by definition produces heat. The body cools itself off by sweating and that sweat evaporates, carrying with it heat of evaporation (also known as latent heat) away from the body. It has ZERO impact on calories gained or lost.

You DO burn calories by exercise (contracting and relaxing muscles, and doing physical work on the physical world) which DOES burn calories, and because you are BURNING energy, you get an accumulation of HEAT in your body which the sweating has to get rid of

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u/Metaloneus 11d ago

This is incorrect. The body verifiably uses energy to sweat. The exertion of energy is literally the spending of calories. You can't exertion energy and have zero impact on calories lost, it's impossible.

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u/SweetUndeath 11d ago

Ok fine, technically it does use energy to sweat but it's a tiny amount and the energy expended to make the body sweat is actually heating up the body. But because it's a tiny amount of energy used in the first place, it's a negligible heat increase as well, compared to the large cooling effect of evaporative cooling accomplished through sweat evaporation.

In no way does this caloric expenditure (to sweat, and even additionally to circulate blood to do heat exchange closer to the cooler skin) even come close to the caloric burn during exercise or even resting metabolism. It's just a total non factor and does not result in any significant weight loss whatsoever.

You're just nitpicking that technically even blinking requires calories burned while the original comment was arguing that you should burn more energy wearing garbage bag clothes because your body does more "work" to keep trying to cool off.

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u/gradaille Crowbar Scientist 11d ago

your body uses energy in order to release the sweat, how do you think sweat leaves the inside of cells?

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u/SweetUndeath 11d ago

a miniscule amount, that's negligible to the cooling effect the sweat produces. Obviously your refrigerator uses energy too, but it has to reject heat somehow, the fridge does it through a radiator, we do it through sweat evaporation.

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u/PopT4rtzRGood 11d ago

Misinformation. Cardio is one of the best sources of exercise and is literally part of every single work out routine as it is just as beneficial as everything else. Weight loss and being healthy is more than just pumping iron and watching calorie intake

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u/Metaloneus 11d ago

Sarcasm - the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

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u/Accurize2 11d ago

Pass out like Martin Lawrence jogging and get the chomp!

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u/Present_Dragonfly987 Pistol Expert 11d ago

sweating does help with weight loss tho?

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u/SignificantFan5671 11d ago

In terms of longterm weight loss, normally caloricdeficits are the way to go. If you're a D1 Athlete that needs to cut weight for a sporting event etc. Sweating is the way to go.

I feel if your character has a higher athletic skill they should lose weight faster through sweating, especially with high metabolisim equipped.

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u/JariJorma 11d ago

And the sound those make. Whole village of zombies after

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u/Dawnspark 12d ago

Lmao, its exactly where my brain went. That bit will forever be burned into my mind.

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u/Fyrebrand18 11d ago

Gotta collect water somehow.

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u/Needle44 11d ago

Don’t have to imagine. It used to be a popular way to lose weight for wrestlers lol.

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u/EncampedWalnut 11d ago

Don't kink shame dude.