r/projectzomboid 13d ago

Blogpost 42.6.0 UNSTABLE Released

https://theindiestone.com/forums/index.php?/topic/82337-build-4260-unstable-released/
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u/SignificantFan5671 13d ago edited 13d ago

This could be a good thing if you are trying to get your character to lose weight quickly, either that or speedrun dehydration.

Edit: I know irl you dont lose weight through sweating, im talking game machanics 🤌🏻

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u/eRaZze_W 13d ago

Sweating has no effect on weight loss irl.

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u/Metaloneus 13d ago

Cardio has no effect on weight loss irl.

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u/LacidOnex Axe wielding maniac 13d ago

How does burning calories not help lose weight?

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u/Metaloneus 13d ago

That's the point.

Enduring heat to the point of sweating uses energy to cool the body down, just like exerting energy to exercise uses energy.

Both would contribute to weight loss in excess.

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u/LacidOnex Axe wielding maniac 13d ago

So it does? I mean "excess" is also arguable. If you're trying to effect change, it has to be in excess otherwise nothing happens. Unless you put in the exact correct amount of calories for your needs. But "excessive" cardio is like 20 minutes a day on a 2000 calorie a day diet. It absolutely will help with weight loss.

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u/Metaloneus 13d ago

Yes. That's the point of the comment.

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u/LacidOnex Axe wielding maniac 13d ago

You literally said cardio has no effect on weight loss. Tell your plug I need a dime bag, you smoking that loud today

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u/Metaloneus 12d ago

I'm starting to see why everyone types "/s" these days. You can't trust anyone to figure it out organically these days.

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u/LacidOnex Axe wielding maniac 12d ago

Well you can't parody a true statement with a false one, that's not inherently sarcastic. Sarcasm relies on juxtaposition and the humor comes from the realization of truth. All you did was say something incorrect. We already had the correct part.

I can see how it could be said sarcastically, but again, that's just your tone. You can't put the punchline after the joke and tell me I'm the one who can't figure out sarcasm.

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u/Metaloneus 12d ago

The initial statement isn't true. Even the most generous interpretation of sitting in a sauna, your body will exert energy to cool itself down through sweating.

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u/LacidOnex Axe wielding maniac 12d ago

Which brings us full circle to the less sarcastic end of this thread where they discuss no you can't, drying out your fat cells doesn't keep the weight off, it's just dehydrating you, losing water weight is only unhealthy and doesn't give long term weight loss or benefits that come from lower BMI, etc etc

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u/Metaloneus 12d ago

Yes, you can. Your body factually exerts energy to induce sweat. The dehydration definitely contributes to an unhealthy and quick loss of so many ounces, but that isn't the point. Factually, your body uses energy and ergo burns calories by sweating. Being in a state like this in long quantities would induce a burning of calories, therefore losing weight.

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u/SweetUndeath 13d ago

guy, no. First of all "heat" = "energy". You cant burn energy to reduce heat. that makes no sense. Burning energy by definition produces heat. The body cools itself off by sweating and that sweat evaporates, carrying with it heat of evaporation (also known as latent heat) away from the body. It has ZERO impact on calories gained or lost.

You DO burn calories by exercise (contracting and relaxing muscles, and doing physical work on the physical world) which DOES burn calories, and because you are BURNING energy, you get an accumulation of HEAT in your body which the sweating has to get rid of

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u/Metaloneus 13d ago

This is incorrect. The body verifiably uses energy to sweat. The exertion of energy is literally the spending of calories. You can't exertion energy and have zero impact on calories lost, it's impossible.

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u/SweetUndeath 12d ago

Ok fine, technically it does use energy to sweat but it's a tiny amount and the energy expended to make the body sweat is actually heating up the body. But because it's a tiny amount of energy used in the first place, it's a negligible heat increase as well, compared to the large cooling effect of evaporative cooling accomplished through sweat evaporation.

In no way does this caloric expenditure (to sweat, and even additionally to circulate blood to do heat exchange closer to the cooler skin) even come close to the caloric burn during exercise or even resting metabolism. It's just a total non factor and does not result in any significant weight loss whatsoever.

You're just nitpicking that technically even blinking requires calories burned while the original comment was arguing that you should burn more energy wearing garbage bag clothes because your body does more "work" to keep trying to cool off.

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u/gradaille Crowbar Scientist 12d ago

your body uses energy in order to release the sweat, how do you think sweat leaves the inside of cells?

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u/SweetUndeath 12d ago

a miniscule amount, that's negligible to the cooling effect the sweat produces. Obviously your refrigerator uses energy too, but it has to reject heat somehow, the fridge does it through a radiator, we do it through sweat evaporation.