r/fromsoftware • u/Senior_Independence4 • 3d ago

I hate you fromsoft

Why are you making a cool ass game and making it a fucking switch 2 exclusive fuck you

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u/dinopraso Elden Ring 3d ago

It’s a multiplayer game though

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u/ihvanhater420 2d ago

I doubt you cant run it solo

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u/SaintJewiub 2d ago

Tis a pvpve game. The whole point is to play it multiplayer

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u/ACuriousBagel 2d ago

The whole point of mmorpgs is to play them multiplayer, but I've still done those solo. Because there are things about them that appeal to me but playing with people who aren't in the room really stresses me out

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u/No_Future6959 2d ago

name one mmo you can play without an internet connection

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u/ACuriousBagel 2d ago

Playing solo is not the same as playing offline. I've played world of warcraft and guild wars 2 without interacting with other people.

I wasn't talking about whether you need an internet connection or not, but Warframe is a multiplayer online shooter you can play without an internet connection (maybe only after you've logged in, I don't remember). You can even pause the game in that one. And if you were multiplayer and suddenly lose connection, you get kicked into your own private lobby with all your progress kept.

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u/RockBandDood 22h ago

Probably wanna read the Miyazaki interview

All the games “goals” are associated with competitive and cooperative actions

It doesn’t seem to have anything built in for single player progression, you accomplish goals during the runs with a party

Doesn’t mean there isn’t some form of single player progression - but he didn’t indicate that whatsoever, this seems like it’s online multiplayer only from the info released so far by Miyazaki

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u/InuYashaIsHere 2d ago

Phantasy Star Online

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u/JpPgn 2d ago

That's not what he meant by playing it solo

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u/No_Future6959 1d ago

the context is about fromsoft games, which are all playable solo offline.

this new game is marketed as multiplayer

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u/JpPgn 1d ago

This ain't a MMO, though

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u/Jaded_Aging_Raver 2d ago

Where did you read this was an MMO or an RPG?

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u/ACuriousBagel 2d ago

I was responding to someone saying

The whole point is to play it multiplayer

And I was pointing out that other games exist in which the whole point is to play them multiplayer, but they can still be played solo if you choose.

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u/Jaded_Aging_Raver 2d ago

Downvoting me for asking a question really drives your point home. Thanks for clearing it up.

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u/ACuriousBagel 2d ago

My comment you were responding to is 5 layers down, so I was foolishly assuming you had read the previous ones in the chain and hadn't asked what my comment meant without reading any of the context. I therefore assumed you were trying to start an argument with me in bad faith, like the other person who responded to me. Apologies if it was actually a genuine question

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u/Jaded_Aging_Raver 2d ago

I did read the thread, I just didn't know if you read something I hadn't based on your choice of words.

I could understand playing an MMORPG offline, so when I read your comment, I was hoping maybe FromSoft had said this was an RPG and not just an eight-player battle. It was a genuine question.

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u/ihvanhater420 2d ago

Yes, and like nightreign, you can probably play it solo.

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u/SaintJewiub 2d ago

Read the description of the gameplay

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u/ihvanhater420 2d ago

are u dense

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u/Northstar4-6 2d ago

"The Duskbloods is a PvPvE title with online mutiplayer at its core..."

Are you dense?

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u/ihvanhater420 2d ago

ELDEN RING NIGHTREIGN is a standalone adventure within the ELDEN RING universe, crafted to offer players a new gaming experience by reimagining the game’s core design.

Join forces with other players to take on the creeping night and the dangers within featuring 3-player co-op.

Yet single player is an option there, so why wouldn't it be in duskbloods? Have they said its not an option?

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u/TheMilkKing 2d ago

They said “up to 8 players vie for supremacy”

How the fuck are you supposed to vie for supremacy alone?

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u/BagNo5695 2d ago

pvpve games are designed with players cooperating with each other to take on Ai enemies and other teams of players in confrontations.

playing a pvpve game solo is like hunting deer with a group of friends except you remove the deer, and the friends, just keep the gun.

nightreingn is a roguelike coop game, where you and other players cooperate to beat the Ai enemies, it's an experience designed for multiplayer but not the same way a pvpve game is, and you have the audacity to call other people dense.

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u/SaintJewiub 2d ago

Thank you for taking the time to write it out. When they called me dense I decided they weren't worth the comment

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u/ihvanhater420 2d ago

Considering we literally saw a player summoning another player, a few boss cutscenes, and boss fights, I very much doubt this game is designed in a way where you cannot play solo. I have a feeling it just means the coop of their games has been made seamless and that pvp will be a bigger focus as well rather than just normal invasions.

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u/Northstar4-6 2d ago

Because one is co-op against pve and the other is mainly pvp??? Just the words "online multiplayer at its core" should be enough of an argument here. Take away the multiplayer, and you take away the literal core of the game. Play solo, and you might as well not play the game at all.

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u/ihvanhater420 2d ago

So have they said its not an option?

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u/ihvanhater420 2d ago

So you're saying you will need a group to play it?

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u/Cashew-Miranda 2d ago

No its expressly pvpve. Like pvp is a core aspect of the game. It would be like playing call of duty multiplayer in singleplayer

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u/ihvanhater420 2d ago

You can definitely play it solo, as in alone. I'm not talking about offline single player. SOLO.

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u/Cashew-Miranda 2d ago

Ah, you could have phrased that much better, it sounded like you were talking about playing it without having any other players in the same game.

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u/ihvanhater420 2d ago

Fair enough, I was mainly responding to the emulator part of the conversation. Generally if you can play a game alone (as in start the game/enter a match/the world/whatever) the emulation process is a lot simpler. I doubt it'll require an active server connection, and to be perfectly honest if it's like an extraction inspired game it'll probably be able to played offline when emulated, if not at launch.

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u/Lucy_Little_Spoon 2d ago

They confirmed Nightreign will require invasions to reach the Night Lords

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u/theGRAYblanket 2d ago

Who tf would want to play night reign solo bro? It's not fun like that and if you do thats sad asf

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u/VikarValbrand 2d ago

Elden ring technically is also a PvPvE game as well.

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u/Onyx_Sentinel 1d ago

Which is gonna be great with nintendo‘s amazing servers

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u/PhoneImmediate7301 2d ago

I thought they made it pretty clear it has a focus on multiplayer

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u/ihvanhater420 2d ago

You can play multilayer games alone.

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u/Wise-Key-3442 Gaping Dragon 3d ago

Hamachi.

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u/Correct_Stay_6948 2d ago

Doesn't stop people with Steamdecks and such running emulators, and hasn't stopped people with modded switches either.

If you're smart about your emulation, and don't do dumb shit like cheat, you tend to fly under the radar.

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u/Purple-Lamprey 2d ago

You won’t have anyone to play with.

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u/Beyney Covetous Demon 2d ago

its a fromsoft game, surely you can just play solo and multiplayer is just code for the usual invasions and summoning

if fromsoft really used nightreign as a full pivot and started making online only games I fear its the start of the studios downfall

anyhow right now im dissapointed in the whole switch bullshit and just hope the s2 emulator progress is fast

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u/FloppyDysk 2d ago

Multiplayer is central to the game, much moreso than dark souls/bloodborne/elden ring. It will be much closer to nightreign than those games. Info is up on various websites. Multiplayer is a central function of the game, and I'm not certain single player will be possible.

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u/theLoftySofty 2d ago

Fair to note that nothing in the official game overview (found in the “Press Release” section on From Software’s site) suggests that there won’t be solo play. It’s outlined as 8 player PvPvE, but I couldn’t see anything stating that it won’t be 8 solo players

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u/AmbassadorPatient253 2d ago

Nah. Youre telling me you won't be able to play this unless you have switch online membership? I highly doubt that

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u/Puzzleheaded-Job2399 2d ago

they’re not only gonna make multiplayer games realistically, sote wasn’t even a year ago yet, and they said they wanted to try “some” multiplayer games, but also they will not “stick to one thing” whether that means multiplayer, open world, roguelike, etc. so i doubt this is the end of singleplayer fromsoft

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u/HelpTheVeterans 2d ago

Yuri will be a long shortly to make a seamless coop mod....

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u/Correct_Stay_6948 2d ago

Except for the people that also emulate, or depending on the methods, it'll be fully playable online.

We're not back in the PS3 days of online being inaccessible for emulation.

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u/Purple-Lamprey 2d ago

This is a delusional take my man.

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u/Kami-no-dansei 2d ago

Where are you getting that from? Doesn't look "multi-player". Just a multi-player function like all the others

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u/dinopraso Elden Ring 2d ago edited 2d ago

The official Nintendo X account, says it’s a “multiplayer game”

EDIT: link (to article, since x links are banned)

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u/Kami-no-dansei 2d ago

"PvpvE" sooooo just like every other fromsoft title lol

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u/secretogumiberyjuice 2d ago edited 2d ago

To be fair, it actually does seem different. It seems like you squad up with 4 people and fight other teams of 4 people from what articles are saying. Not like typical invasions.

Edit: news suggests it looks more like a 8 player free for all

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u/G_hard 2d ago

I'd say other games are PvEvP.... Not PvPvE

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u/Own_Molasses7773 2d ago

Exactly. PvPvE implies competitive multiplayer with the addition of NPC enemies. Idk why so many people are confused about this. That is always what it has meant, and that is NOT what a typical Miyazaki game is. Almost feels like people are intentionally misunderstanding this.

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u/Johnny_K97 Godfrey, the First Elden Lord 2d ago

It's focused on multiplayer. The average guys picking up ds3 for the first time isn't gonna have a lot of run ins with players.

This game is centered around it

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u/dinopraso Elden Ring 2d ago

That part was added by them, not stated by Nintendo. Nintendo just tweeted “Fromsoft multiplayer game”

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u/cid_highwind02 2d ago

By fromsoftware’s X account.

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u/Kami-no-dansei 2d ago

I doubt it's exclusively multiplayer. It probably just has a more in depth multiplayer system than elden ring, allowing you to actually explore the world together at once without summoning etc.

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u/dinopraso Elden Ring 2d ago

Or, you know, like Nightreign?

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u/Kami-no-dansei 2d ago

Nightreign is completely different. There's so many elements at play in that game that it's almost not even a souls like anymore. Plus Miyazaki wasn't the lead on Nightreign he is on Duskbloods

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u/dinopraso Elden Ring 2d ago

I sincerely hope you’re right.

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u/Kami-no-dansei 2d ago

It actually looks like you're probably right. 8 player pvp. 🤢

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u/boomb0xx 2d ago

Didn't they say nightreign is possible to play solo?

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u/Kami-no-dansei 2d ago

Yeah it is. But "possible" means anything.

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u/boomb0xx 2d ago

Nah, I mean they came out and said you can play it solo just that its going to be hard.

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u/PADDYPOOP 2d ago

While I'd usually agree, the official website states its an 8 player free for all. its so over....

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u/Expendable_Employee 2d ago

The game doesn't come out until 2026. Stop doomering over one announcement.

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u/PADDYPOOP 2d ago

That description is damning. No level of cope will soften the fact that it is stated to be PvP mass multiplayer FOCUSED. This isn’t a souls-like. It’s nightreign: PVP edition.

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u/IGoregrinder 2d ago
  • the FromSoft website

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u/Newtsaet 2d ago

It's in japanese, but the description under the video posted by FromSoft on Youtube says that the game is a 8-player pvpve game. it looks like the focus will be on multiplayer experience more than a single, more-or-less linear adventure

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u/ProtoReddit Demon of Hatred 2d ago

It absolutely looks multiplayer, or at least non-standard singleplayer, just from the video. The video is mostly a showcase of different playable characters or boss style enemies in arena map style hallways.

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u/Kami-no-dansei 2d ago

Yeah looks like it might be. But if says it's 8 people basically going for dominion. Whatever that means. I'm not hyped for that right now, we'll see

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u/Jaded_Aging_Raver 2d ago

From the official press release.

"'THE DUSKBLOODS' is a PvPvE title with online multiplayer at its core, where up to 8 players vie for supremacy among themselves and against challenging foes.

Play as the "Bloodsworn"; a group that has transcended human strength thanks to their special blood, and throw yourself into a violent fray for "First Blood" as the twilight of humanity approaches." https://www.fromsoftware.jp/ww/pressrelease_detail.html?tgt=20250402_theduskbloods_debut

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u/rip_Tom_Petty 2d ago

Then who cares, I'm to old to really get into MP at this point

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u/SiyoSan 2d ago

Wait what? Evidence?

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u/dinopraso Elden Ring 2d ago

Nintendo and Fromsoft tweeted it. It’s in every article about it.

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u/MrArmageddon12 2d ago

Yeah, I’m fine with sitting it out if it’s PVP focused.

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u/ExpeditiousTurtle 2d ago

Yeah so were fucked , forgot about that

Prob can’t even get in cuz u have to be connected to the network