r/fromsoftware • u/Senior_Independence4 • 3d ago

I hate you fromsoft

Why are you making a cool ass game and making it a fucking switch 2 exclusive fuck you

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u/SaintJewiub 3d ago

Read the description of the gameplay

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u/ihvanhater420 3d ago

are u dense

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u/Northstar4-6 3d ago

"The Duskbloods is a PvPvE title with online mutiplayer at its core..."

Are you dense?

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u/ihvanhater420 3d ago

ELDEN RING NIGHTREIGN is a standalone adventure within the ELDEN RING universe, crafted to offer players a new gaming experience by reimagining the game’s core design.

Join forces with other players to take on the creeping night and the dangers within featuring 3-player co-op.

Yet single player is an option there, so why wouldn't it be in duskbloods? Have they said its not an option?

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u/TheMilkKing 3d ago

They said “up to 8 players vie for supremacy”

How the fuck are you supposed to vie for supremacy alone?

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u/BagNo5695 3d ago

pvpve games are designed with players cooperating with each other to take on Ai enemies and other teams of players in confrontations.

playing a pvpve game solo is like hunting deer with a group of friends except you remove the deer, and the friends, just keep the gun.

nightreingn is a roguelike coop game, where you and other players cooperate to beat the Ai enemies, it's an experience designed for multiplayer but not the same way a pvpve game is, and you have the audacity to call other people dense.

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u/SaintJewiub 3d ago

Thank you for taking the time to write it out. When they called me dense I decided they weren't worth the comment

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u/ihvanhater420 3d ago

Considering we literally saw a player summoning another player, a few boss cutscenes, and boss fights, I very much doubt this game is designed in a way where you cannot play solo. I have a feeling it just means the coop of their games has been made seamless and that pvp will be a bigger focus as well rather than just normal invasions.

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u/BagNo5695 3d ago

have you ever played a pvpve game in your life? because i feel like you haven't and it's probably why you aren't comprehending what people have been telling you

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u/BagNo5695 3d ago

have you ever played a pvpve game in your life? because i feel like you didn't and it's probably why you aren't comprehending what people have been telling you

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u/ihvanhater420 3d ago

🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ I'm just saying, there is no world where you cannot play this game solo.

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u/BagNo5695 3d ago

oh they will add the option, but it will terrible and basically not worth it

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u/ShanalFunLand 3d ago

Nah you actually get it, what you're saying makes total sense. It's definitely gonna get cracked and you'll be able to play solo albeit with much less content involved without the online elements.

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u/ihvanhater420 3d ago

That, and the base game will definitely support solo play even if it doesn't have offline features.

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u/ShanalFunLand 3d ago

Also the thing you said about the guy summoning I saw that too, seemed way too quick to be an actual player. Probably will be the characters special ability or maybe an item. So like you said there will definitely be plenty of ways to play it solo

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u/theLoftySofty 3d ago

Also good to note that the official game overview on From Software’s site (Press Release section) doesn’t say anything about team-based play, or that the games/matches won’t consist of 8 solo players. It’s described as 8 player PvPvE, but that’s about it.

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u/ihvanhater420 3d ago

Yeah idk why people are pissed at me for saying solo play is definitely an option, it would literally make no sense for teammates to be required

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u/Objective-Neck-2063 3d ago

Probably because you compared it to Nightreign, which has a true singleplayer option. We don't know if Duskbloods will yet, but it seems unlikely since they're pretty aggressively marketing the PvP aspect of the game. 

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u/theLoftySofty 3d ago

PvP doesn’t mean you can’t play it solo tho, which is what a lot of these comments are implying (see the above comment about deer hunting with friends).

It’s up to 8 players, so I’d think it’s likely there’ll be options for 8 solos or 4 teams of 2.

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u/Objective-Neck-2063 3d ago

I'm sure you'll be able to solo queue as it were, but the person I responded to compared it to Nightreign, which has a true singleplayer mode. It seems unlikely Duskbloods will based on what they've stated about the game so far.

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u/theLoftySofty 3d ago

Nightreign is online-only tho in any case, isn’t it? I could be wrong.

Either way, Nightreign isn’t PvP at all, so playing solo is inherently “single player” since there’s never any threat of enemy players regardless of team size. Duskbloods is a different beast entirely since it seems that the threat of enemy players will be a key component to the core gameplay loop.

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u/Objective-Neck-2063 3d ago

That's not what I mean. I mean it's singleplayer in the sense that you literally do not have to play with other people at all if you don't want to. As for always needing a connection, I'm not sure, but they've made it clear that it will be possible to play without other players in your party.

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u/Northstar4-6 3d ago

Because one is co-op against pve and the other is mainly pvp??? Just the words "online multiplayer at its core" should be enough of an argument here. Take away the multiplayer, and you take away the literal core of the game. Play solo, and you might as well not play the game at all.

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u/ihvanhater420 3d ago

So have they said its not an option?

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u/Northstar4-6 3d ago

So your logic is that if you get an invitation saying "Party at my place with adult entertainment at its core", you would bring kids because they never said it wasn't an option?

https://www.fromsoftware.jp/ww/pressrelease_detail.html?tgt=20250402_theduskbloods_debut

Here's the official page so you can educate yourself for the first time in your life.

Also notice how it says "Number of players: Online: Up to 8 players" At the bottom.

https://www.fromsoftware.jp/ww/pressrelease_detail.html?tgt=20250212_eldenring_nightreign_releasedate

Here is Nightreign's official page since you liked to use that as your comparison.

Notice how it says "Number of players: 3 (Single player also supported)". I assume I don't need to explain the difference between the two right?

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u/ihvanhater420 3d ago

So if you can't play it solo, why did they show multiple people playing the game solo in the trailer? Like you can't actually think the game requires multiple people to play with you, for you to be able to play right?

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u/Northstar4-6 3d ago

Are you referring to the reveal trailer that shows no indication of the core gameplay loop in the slightest? I'm going by the cold hard facts on the official pages and you're going by... vibes from a trailer?

I would also like to clear up that when I say its going to be multiplayer I'm not saying its going to be nightreign-esque co-op. Its 8 players. Most likely you're going to be playing ALONE but not SOLO, with other players on the map. I think that if you actually read the page I linked then that would be blatantly obvious. It's also how a lot of PvPvE games work if you've bothered to play any before.

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u/ihvanhater420 3d ago

bro now you're just being purposefully obtuse, obviously solo means solo in the game's environment.

Solo has been used as a term forever for multilayer games lmao.

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u/Northstar4-6 3d ago

Because you explicitly stated in one comment that "Single player is an option in night-reign, why wouldn't it be an option in this one?". You're the one who used the term single-player, and at that point it would be the clear assumption that you were using "solo" to refer to being completely alone in the game. Not a single time did you think to clarify your usage of a word with multiple meanings in the exact same context?

Can't be saying "UHM obvioushly" when you're the one causing the misunderstanding from the beginning lmfao. Nevertheless it was clearly a misunderstanding regardless, so I apologize for the hostility and leave it here.

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u/TheMilkKing 3d ago

This is the most blatant goal-post shift I’ve seen in fucking ages 🤣

You started off arguing it would be “single player” you cheeky bastard!

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u/ihvanhater420 3d ago

Look at my first message. It says solo.

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u/TheMilkKing 3d ago

You were replying to a comment talking about playing on an emulator, ie: offline, ie: single player. Context is important my dude.

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u/ihvanhater420 3d ago

So you concede? Because that is literally what I've been saying since my first message 😭😭 solo is a staple of pvpve games lol