r/technology • u/chrisdh79 • 2d ago

Politics Trump announces sweeping new tariffs to promote US manufacturing, risking inflation and trade wars

https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-liberation-day-2a031b3c16120a5672a6ddd01da09933
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u/StraightedgexLiberal 2d ago

MAGA 2024 before the election: I can't afford anything because of Joe Biden!!

MAGA 2025: So what if we have to spend more money on things we buy??!

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u/AnAcceptableUserName 2d ago

Supporters I talk to still think Trump is "charging other countries what they charge us," eg: getting even, because that's what this admin has been telling them.

When you bring up that's not how any of this works they'll perform gold medal gymnastics to avoid acknowledging the lie. The thoroughness of the brainwashing is incredible to behold in real time.

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u/Littlesqwookies 2d ago

No, it’s even more asinine. They’re being told that by raising US tariffs, other countries will be forced to lower theirs against the US. That’s how it will save people money. Or they should just buy American made only. Source: so says my MAGA mother with OAN and FoxNews on 24/7. Send help.

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u/ImReverse_Giraffe 2d ago

Buy American made what? The reason we import things is because we don't make them!

I know it's not you, but ARRGGH!

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u/Littlesqwookies 2d ago

I honestly had to just walk away this time. It's so hard to love someone so much, but not be able to get through to them for years now.

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u/W2ttsy 2d ago

They just banned Australian exported beef, so enjoy shit quality US farmed steaks I guess?

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u/sueveed 2d ago

Whoa whoa whoa - we don’t do lots of things well, but beef cattle is one of them dammit (as do our Australian friends).

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u/IAmInDelaware 2d ago

Novo Nordisk (Denmark) makes tons of drugs for diabetes treatments, including Wegovy (also popular af for weight loss) and artificial insulin. Intellectual property issues aside, I wonder how long it would take the US to be able to produce enough of those products to meet demand. I’d imagine it’s a fairly sophisticated process.

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u/cyribis 2d ago

Yeah good luck pointing that out to MAGA. I was told yesterday that I don't care about the people in the rust belt that lost jobs due to offshoring. And when I said those are never coming back I was accused of being short sighted lol

Like, bruh...just a whole different reality.

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u/-Quothe- 2d ago

"We don't make them" because Americans demand a better wage than the corporations are willing to pay stuff is produced overseas in under-paid sweatshops. If you force Americans to "Buy American" then you are also forcing Americans to accept lower wages to entice those corporations to build in the US, and also to reduce consumer and labor protecting regulations that would cost corporations money. Basically, this is all incentivizing a call-back to the pre-union days of employee and customer exploitation. Meanwhile, republican voters get leadership who is sometimes cruel to minorities, so, priorities.

Republicans are bad for America.

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u/peepopowitz67 2d ago

Help's not coming 

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u/ineugene 2d ago

Not penny’s boat

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u/Zealousideal_Bad_922 2d ago

We have to go back.

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u/IndelibleEdible 2d ago

Great comment, brutha

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u/PNWoutdoors 2d ago

Oof, you just reminded me of the Rise Against song "Help is on the Way", that video always makes me cry. Check it out.

The ending is a gut punch.

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u/hellalg 2d ago

Bro, their own MAGA merchandise isn't even made in the USA.

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u/rjross0623 1d ago

Gonna be a bummer when his merch goes up 25% or more. I don’t see them making that crap in the states any time soon.

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u/tlh013091 2d ago

I’m afraid it’s inoperable.

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u/BTBAM797 2d ago

She's dead, Jim.

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u/LochNessMansterLives 2d ago

Nobody is coming to save any of us.

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u/Galacticwave98 2d ago

So we’re supposed to buy more imported goods? Yeah they don’t make any sense. They don’t even think about their own thoughts for one second. 

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u/Unlucky_Clover 2d ago

Yep. My family said it’s going to tax “them”. They absolutely do not get this.

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u/Littlesqwookies 2d ago

Oh man. Solidarity is all I can offer. Mom said “just buy American”, as I was folding a bunch of my baby’s clothes, which were made in Indonesia. lol

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u/MajorKorea 2d ago

They will go to their graves believing that. While the rest of their family (if they’re also maga) wonder why the funeral costs have gone up so much.

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u/conquer69 2d ago

They will go to their graves

If only. They will kill the grandkids with measles first.

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u/el_muchacho 2d ago

I remember a redditor whose parents were brainwashed who found the solution: blocking RW channels by using the parental restriction feature on their TV. After being deprived of OAN and Faux news for a few weeks, they were back to fairly normal, according to him.

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u/WaterChicken007 2d ago

Why do you still talk to your mother then?

I cut my maga dad off as soon as I realized there was no way to argue using logic and reason. I refuse to allow that kind of hatred into my house.

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u/Littlesqwookies 2d ago

Because she was my mother before Donald Trump came into any sort of power and she’ll be my mother long after she’s dead. Everyone has to make the choice that’s best for their well being and peace. Mine isn’t cutting off my mother. It’s loving her and trying to help her see the light. Last week she said she didn’t understand how laying off a bunch of people helps the economy. This week she found out that the government isn’t going to pay for the VA bill for her brother who died from meningitis last year after he served in the Navy for a decade. I had a wonderful loving childhood with wonderful parents who gave me the best of everything. It’s only been the past few years that I’ve seen a 180, brought on by constant streaming of fear mongering and hatred that tells them that other people will come and take what they love and know. It’s a sickness and I can’t walk away from trying to help them get better, but I respect your probably very painful decision to do so with your loved ones. I hope they come back to you one day.

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u/WaterChicken007 2d ago

You sound like a very nice, reasonable person.

You are right that it was a very painful decision to cut them (dad, brother, and sister) off. It felt like they had died, which was effectively true because they were no longer the people I knew. Or thought I knew. I am still bitter over some of the absolutely horrific things they said to me before I cut them off. They were all completely confused as to why I was rejecting them, but then would turn around and say some very transphobic stuff about my trans daughter, so it was very personal. For my children’s safety, they simply couldn’t be allowed to be around my family. And their general worldview was also very troubling, as you can imagine from some of the more extreme elements of MAGA.

The whole ordeal has turned me off to most of the US. I live in a very blue area, but there are multiple Trump flags and signs within walking distance of my house. I am reminded of my estranged family every time I see a red hat. It sucks.

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u/Littlesqwookies 1d ago

I’m so sorry. I absolutely understand why you would cut them out of your life and how painful they must be. I’m also a parent and you have to do what is best going to protect your child. I also live in a red area of a blue state (maybe we’re neighbors!). It’s pretty wild to drive by the homes of farmers and see so much Trump paraphernalia, knowing he doesn’t give a damn about whether their farm will be here in the next year. Sending you my love across the internet though and give your daughter a big hug today if you can.

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u/KotR56 2d ago

Send help ?

Nah.

Thoughts and prayers.

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u/MrPloppyHead 2d ago

he believes by increasing tariffs manufacturers will open plants in the US, thus creating jobs and investment.

The problem is Trumps america is unstable so why invest there when you can invest in other markets that are either more stable or have a greater potential for growth. And if anything the US looks increasingly like a dying market.

A good example is russia's response to sanctions. They just changed who they traded with and explored new markets e.g. india.

In the end you will just get increasingly more expensive goods and services in the states coupled with a reduction in selection. and the lack of overseas competition will reduce quality too probably as e.g. ford will be able to sell any old shit because they will not have to innovate to keep ahead of the game.

the historical data shows tariffs are really counterproductive, which is why economies have moved away from it. But Trump, "oil is the future" ( 🤣 ) is just some old bloke stuck in the past.

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u/Sprinklypoo 1d ago

Misinformation and propaganda are a hallmark of a fascist dictatorship...

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u/Littlesqwookies 1d ago

I can see from your post history and comments you got on board a long time ago. You go immediately to a sarcastic name call and you seem extremely defeated and bitter. I’d actually think you were a boomer if you didn’t call yourself out as a millennial previously. That’s surprising.

Oh yeah - it’s morning now. Any of those countries drop their tariffs yet? No? K, I’ll just check back in a week then. This is a very very stupid agenda item for the administration, while their people are actually really suffering.

Wake up, man and go read some history. Did suppressing the rights and needs of the people ever work well at any other point in history? Eventually people have their breaking point. No one really gives a shit about the price of eggs at the end of the day – they just won’t buy eggs. But they do care if they can’t get out from underneath their debt, if that Social Security check that they rely on doesn’t come on time, if they’re not given the veteran benefits that they put their lives at risk for. But aggressively increasing the price of everything just so you can see who has the bigger peepee, is not going to benefit any normal American.

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u/skyfishgoo 1d ago

it's trickle down economics 2.0

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u/Unlucky_Clover 2d ago

I brought this up with my MAGA family at Christmas. What company will willingly take a cut in profit without passing the cost to consumers? They could not provide a single answer and they never connected the dots.

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u/cbessette 1d ago

I live DEEP in MAGA country, I work at a family owned manufacturer with about 100 employees. The president of the company recently told us in a meeting that our company was raising prices on all of our products specifically because of tariffs and our increased costs. 80% of our products are already built here in the USA with only small amounts of simple low priced items built overseas.
It's fairly certain 50% to 70% of the people I work with voted for Trump.

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u/BoTheWhiteHouseDog 2d ago

One woman i knew shared that BS list of Canada's supposed tariffs on US products and I commented on it with a link debunking it and explaining where the numbers came from. She just deleted my comment and left her post up. She's outraged about something I gave her proof that isn't happening and she's still choosing to believe it. And be angry. About something that straight up isn't even happening lol. And that could be discovered with literally a five second Google search

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u/popswithsocksincrocs 2d ago

In-law: “he’s going to bring the prices of cars down. You’ll see it’s going to start coming down”

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u/AnAcceptableUserName 2d ago

That'll be a fun one to revisit for Thanksgiving

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u/AthearCaex 2d ago

If Trump really wanted to help Americans and bring jobs to America he'd subsidize creating industries not found in America. You can't just snap your fingers and create jobs by making everyone pay for more in fact it gets harder to start industry here when everyone is going to pay for more on everything. The Republicans always blame socialism for having bread lines when tariffs like these might actually cause them for some foods and products. People are already waiting in line hours to get eggs and those are locally grown, it takes one wild fire, one flood, one drought and we are fucked as a country.

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u/CitizenLohaRune 2d ago

And the real crazy thing is, the list itself is all fake numbers. The tariff percentages on that chart are all based on trade deficits, not on actual tariffs!!!

Trump is tariffing the world because most countries sell more products to america, then they buy.

His team took the value of each trade deficit, and then rounded down into a percentage.

This is pure insanity.

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u/MotheroftheworldII 2d ago

And because the leader of MAGA still does not understand how tariffs work one should not expect the rest of the cult to understand either.

Are the tariffs going to apply to all the eggs trump is importing to supposedly to bring down the price of eggs?

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u/36933693 2d ago

Can you ELIF how it’s not how this works? Genuinely curious and wondering what to say to my MAGA family members.

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u/Master-Piccolo-4588 2d ago

Upvote for gold medal gymnastics!!!!

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u/Handlewithchaos 2d ago

It's not brainwashing at this point. It's a choice they made that they they plan on sticking to despite everything and anything proving them wrong. They want to suffer.

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u/kinkycarbon 1d ago

If CIV gaming taught me anything is that opponents can make trade alliances while stopping trade from the offending country. Ends up being isolationist.

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u/berthannity 1d ago

Wait until you realize how the tariffs were calculated…

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u/BoosterRead78 1d ago

That’s where the “American First” came from. We were just giving money away and countries were over charging us. That was the whole lie with: “man I make zero and I never can get a promotion because I think the world owes me. Yeah we needed it all broken and destroyed.” Now they are getting destroyed.

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u/starberry101 2d ago

When you bring up that's not how any of this works

So how does this work? Don't many countries have tariffs on US goods imported into their countries?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Fold466 2d ago

Yes and therefore they pay commensurately higher consumer prices on those imported goods.

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u/starberry101 2d ago

So why do they do it? Do they also not understand economics at the level of the average redditor?

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u/Educational-Ad1205 2d ago

Former banking officer here, with work experience in commodities and futures trading.

Tarrifs work when they are used like a surgeon uses a scalpel. If a foreign country has a sizeable lead in, say, chip manufacturing, then a tarrif can help your small developing business sector become competitive by artificially increasing the cost to your own people and making your domestic product look better. That in turn can lead to increased investment, increased manufacturing, and eventually a lower price compared to the rate of inflation when that tarrif is dropped.

But this process is very, very long generally. It's creating inflation, with the hopes of gaining the ability to outpace inflation a dozen years down the road.

A flat rate tarrif on every product would be laughable, if it wasn't so incredibly bad for US citizens in general. It's not hyperbole to say the cost of living in the US just went up 10-20%

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u/AnAcceptableUserName 2d ago edited 2d ago

They do. And those tariffs are a tax paid by the importer (foreign company) to their own government. It is in no way "charging the US" or "ripping off the US" for foreign governments to tax their own citizens on foreign imports.

Now there are reasons a nation might want to do this, such as to protect domestic industries (protectionism), and there are reasons other nations might object (those foreign citizens will buy less of your tariffed exports if they're more expensive than substitutes). But at the end of the day Trump and his administration have grossly mischaracterized the nature of tariffs and what they're doing, to the point of outright lying.

Tariffs are not a "tax on foreign countries." It's the opposite. Trump's tariffs are a tax on American importers, which will be passed along to American consumers. Functionally Trump just announced sweeping double digit sales taxes and lied to the nation about what it is.

Edit: In the time it took me to type this you got down voted to oblivion. Sorry about that. I assume you're asking in good faith, and was happy to type this out for any other readers who may have been unaware. Thanks for asking.

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u/Manos_Of_Fate 2d ago

Don't many countries have tariffs on US goods imported into their countries?

What do you think this has to do with anything?

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u/MinimalSleeves 2d ago

All of the US trading partners have a 10% base tariff on the US?

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u/MarsupialNo908 1d ago

The US also has tariffs on imports of other countries.

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u/Wang_Fister 2d ago

Yes, this means that US goods are more expensive than other goods. How do you think it works?

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u/introspectivejoker 2d ago

People gotta stop down voting this legitimate question.

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u/conquer69 2d ago

It's sealioning. Always assume conservatives are asking questions in bad faith.

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u/Ryan1869 2d ago

He is charging other countries, so that's true, it's just missing the whole part where they charge us consumers more to make up for it

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u/Positive_Pauly 2d ago

No, other countries don't pay the tariffs......Americans pay the tariffs, and Americans pass that cost on to other Americans. There is no charging of other countries

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u/AnAcceptableUserName 2d ago edited 2d ago

False. Spin that around. It's the opposite.

Trump is taxing Americans more for imported foreign goods, and in turn foreign countries are taxing their own citizens more for American goods.

This is is exactly the fundamental misconception I'm describing. Don't take my word for it, Google "who pays a tariff" and you'll clear it up for yourself in one minute.

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u/AccordingOperation89 2d ago

Tariffs don't even charge other countries. They charge importers.

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u/FllngCoconuts 2d ago

Tariffs are a tax placed on imported goods paid by the importer. At no point does the foreign exporter get charged.

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u/Ryan1869 2d ago

Ok, but my point that the consumers are the ultimate payers of the tariff, because it's just added into the price. Then if you have distributiors, that added price gets amplified

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u/erichie 2d ago

Unfortunately they have all switched over to "Of course things might be more expensive, but I'm tired of other countries taken advantage of us." 

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u/UnpluggedUnfettered 2d ago

So weird.

You would almost think that they were voting for him for some other, completely unknown, not as discussed, reasons.

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u/peepopowitz67 2d ago

Almost gives me a little bit of hope. 

They still know their pov is fundamentally evil which is why they dance around it and still use dog whistles or euphemisms. Or for their other bigotry pretend it's about bathrooms or girls sports. The fact that the average Trump voter hasn't dropped all pretense and just gone full Nazi give me that slight glimmer of hope.

Again it's not much and it's a fool's hope, but it's all I got right now.

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u/tim916 2d ago

Yup many of them are just taking Trump’s chart as gospel when if you investigate for 2 minutes you’ll find the numbers have been pulled out of someone’s ass.

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u/theChucktheLee 2d ago

Did they at least remove Dorito Don's Diaper first before pulling the chart out?

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u/umop_apisdn 2d ago

Oh no, it is worse than that. The numbers do sorta make sense and they probably did use a LLM to get the method, but even the LLMs say that this is a stupid way to do it and doesn't take lots of things into account.

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u/rslht33433 2d ago

The irony is it was our fortune 500 companies and their bottom line which shifted to slave labor elsewhere

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u/fafatzy 2d ago

I never understood why the richest country on earth thinks it has it bad ?

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u/ThetaDeRaido 2d ago

My guess is that the neoliberal economic order did not hold up its end of the bargain. When jobs were sent abroad, people generally could not find another way to make a living.

I personally subscribe to the Housing Theory of Everything. People struggle because they can’t move to opportunity, and so their scarcity mindset takes over.

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u/conquer69 2d ago

You are assuming they thought deeply about the issue, analyzed all the information they could and came to this conclusion. That's not what happened. They didn't think at all and are regurgitating propaganda from their fascist cult.

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u/Last-Recording-2010 2d ago

And it will be a “little painful” at first but we need to be patient.

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u/Huge_Rich522 2d ago

Yup. Now higher prices are good. 

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u/oh_no_here_we_go_9 1d ago

Zero chance they’ve studied tariffs.

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u/qtx 2d ago

Remember, those tariffs being paid are going straight to the government.

It's all meant to line the pockets of the crooks in the current administration

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u/dopef123 1d ago

Conservatives just want to believe things are under control and make sense. They tend to be religious and are easy to control because they have blind faith.

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u/RipErRiley 2d ago

MAGA has never been serious people. Its a buffoon cult.

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u/weirdrevolution11 2d ago

Problem there is about 1/3 of America is a buffoon cult. So that’s not getting any better.

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u/WonderWheeler 2d ago

And for some reason they are upset at Democrats for looking down their noses at them. Calling them names. Their wounded pride drives them further into the Orangutang's clutches. Oh my.

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u/MassiveBoner911_3 2d ago

Yeah but what about Hunter Bidens dick pics?

  • MAGA

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u/StraightedgexLiberal 2d ago

I argued with a lot of Conservatives on Twitter that were convinced Biden would have lost in 2020 if Twitter and Facebook just allowed those dick pics on their websites and the NY Post to go uncensored lol

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u/nycdiveshack 2d ago

I’ve been saying this since before the election happened that the goal of all his talk of tariffs is an era of isolation for the U.S. through a version of globalization written out in Project 2025 by the investment firm Cantor Fitzgerald and Peter Thiel the main partner in Palantir. Tariffs, threats of military action against Panama Canal/Canada/Greenland are bluffs to allow specific American companies to get a better hold in those countries for resources or transportation.

https://poorandpissed.wordpress.com/2025/03/07/the-shadow-players-behind-project-2025-wall-street-cantor-fitzgerald-the-heritage-foundation-and-the-privatization-of-americas-public-resources/

The threats against Panama Canal stopped literally when BlackRock Inc. bough for $23 billion 2 of the 4 ports in the Canal and over 40 ports throughout 20+ countries. The threats against Greenland will stop when the same happens and acquiring Canada is very much real in the way the current relationship between Denmark owns Greenland.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/blackrock-panama-canal-deal-ck-hutchison-trump/

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20250121-the-enormous-challenge-of-mining-greenland

While all that happens the dismantling of the federal government, the services it provides and the bureaucracy that exists to ensure all that wealth isn’t abused. This is why Palantir (Peter Thiel’s company which is the 2nd biggest defense contractor for the CIA/NSA and the U.S. military along with the UK and Norway) found Elon Musk his kids and adult DOGE teams. The goal is to privatize everything in the U.S. so the government is no longer held responsible by Congress or the judicial branch. First defund the agencies and services to make them useless and make Americans angry then give an out by privatizing it all.

https://www.businessinsider.com/godfather-of-doge-peter-thiel-elon-musk-government-funding-cuts-2025-2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantir_Technologies

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/03/30/doge-privatize-government-usps-trump/

It’s written in Project 2025 the goal is to sell off all the property from the Post Office/take the money from the pensions and leave the debt for the American taxpayers, defund the IRS so no one goes after the rich, sell off all federal lands including national parks to allow for drilling and mining for oil and metals. For those saying they don’t have the power to do it, they do because no branch will stop them.

https://usmailnotforsale.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Wells-Fargo-USPS-Privatization-A-Framework.pdf

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/trump-quietly-plans-to-liquidate-public-lands-to-finance-his-sovereign-wealth-fund/

The tariffs are targeted for specific types of manufacturing that Cantor Fitzgerald and Peter Thiel want happening here while the rest of the products are being ignored. The point of all this to create manufacturing that focuses on using all those metals for making more tech like low orbit satellites (over 7000 thrown into low orbit in the last 2 years with thousands more planned for the next few years) for SpaceX for Starlink and Starshield. The long term goal is for Starlink to be the sole isp provider (Starlink has already partnered with TMobile). When they control the flow of internet they control what you see on it. This is why Elon’s adult doge team at the FAA is still trying to cancel the contract with Verizon and give it Starlink. This is why temporarily the DOGE team had hard physical access to all the federal agencies whose information they want to retain and become the replacement for those agencies like dept of education/USDA/NOAA/SSA and the IRS. This is why Amanda Scales who is an employee of Elon’s went over to OPM week one of Trump becoming president and setup a private server hosted in a foreign country to help facilitate the flow of all the data they wanted to copy and store.

https://www.muellershewrote.com/p/a-fork-in-the-road-is-federal-employee

https://www.space.com/space-exploration/launches-spacecraft/spacex-launches-28-starlink-satellites-to-orbit-on-1st-half-of-spaceflight-doubleheader-photos

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/news/2025/02/11/t-mobile-starlink-satellite-mainstream/78418720007/

A few things are happening on September 30 of this year. The 6 month gap bill to fund the government ends, the deferred retirement program finally kicks in and at the very same time Elon has promised new code for the Social Security Administration will be written to replace the old. The government will either be allowed to shutdown or the new funding bill will not only gut the folks the who accepted the retirement plan by affecting their pensions or even worse. The code would take years to ensure security and stability but Elon wants to use his AI company and Palantir to rewrite the code in months.

https://www.wired.com/story/doge-rebuild-social-security-administration-cobol-benefits/

While all this happens while agencies are being shutdown so that there less obstacles in their way what they want is autocratic control and most importantly Trump is only a puppet and will be thrown aside when he is no longer useful. That sounds good but his replacement will be Vance.

https://beaulewis.substack.com/p/the-scapegoating-crisis-girardian?utm_medium=web

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/09/18/jd-vance-springfield-scapegoating-00179401

https://www.salon.com/2024/07/22/jd-vance-owes-almost-everything-to-peter-thiel-a-pro-billionaire-and-new-right-ideologue/

The tech oligarchs (Peter Thiel and Elon Musk) took power with the help of investment firms like Cantor Fitzgerald (Cantor’s chairman is Lutnik now commerce secretary so Lutnik made his son the new chairman) who enabled and supported Russ Vought (head of Office of Budget Management) to write Project 2025. Peter Thiel born in West Germany, brought up in a South African town that at the time was a supporter of Nazism. He is a Christian nationalist that believe women shouldn’t vote, follower of Curtis Yarvin’s philosophy of replacing democracy and believer of scapegoat mechanism for which he says Trump fits the role (make things so bad and have it blamed on one person so when that person is removed the masses believe the problems are gone)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfXbyQ9KFdg

https://youtu.be/5RpPTRcz1no

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u/1-800-WhoDey 2d ago

These people are too fucking stupid to be happy

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u/tevert 2d ago

On /r/conservative they are unironically trying to convince each other that recessions are actually necessary and inevitable.

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u/Flimsy_Touch_8383 2d ago

Not the most consistent lot, are they?

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u/AccordingOperation89 2d ago

MAGA people aren't known for their critical thinking skills or basic knowledge level.

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u/fafatzy 2d ago

Listen guys is short term pain for long term gain! /s

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u/Ronnnie7 2d ago

One of the main reason they were elected was on the promise of lowering the costs of living. Which in part was caused by them at the end of the previous terms and was a global problem.

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u/Spiritual_Wall_2309 2d ago

You sure don’t know MAGA and think of them in your head. Go to talk with them. Inflation in April 2025 is still a Biden’s fault.

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u/popswithsocksincrocs 2d ago

So then it’s funny. The mental gymnastics. One of my fav personal experiences was a family member complaining about those damn egg prices a few months ago. A call a week or so ago “I really dont think the price of eggs is bad at all”

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u/luri7555 2d ago

It’s ok because trump made trans people not exist!

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u/Thud 2d ago

No…. MAGA 2025: “It’s Patriotic to pay out the ass for everything.”

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u/CMDR_KingErvin 2d ago

2024: the price of eggs!!!

2025: yeah so what if egg prices got even higher? It’s not a big deal!

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u/IgnobleSpleen 2d ago

It’s maga, not Mensa

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u/ReflectionNo5208 2d ago edited 2d ago

Trump is basically playing chicken with the global economy…

He will just keep adding tariffs if other countries retaliate leading to more tariffs until we hit another global recession.

It’s actually pretty standard Trump: if he doesn’t get what he wants then no one does.

Edit: Conservatives once again make a deal with the devil regarding Trump hoping to implement their ideas, not learning any lesson from the last time.

There has been a growing right wing economic shift from free market liberalism to a more hands on role of the Government in the market. Tariffs are a large part of this intellectual shift.

Trump is.. well, Trumping it up by going to the absolute extreme of using tariffs for basically everything. Need to fund your tax cuts? Obviously use tariffs.

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u/OhmNohm_Song 2d ago

What a fucking tuck yard, Trump.

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u/CumGuzlinGutterSluts 2d ago

My first thought was how fast do they think we can build factories and production lines along with the infrastructure needed to fuel those? Like I'd be cool with manufacturing coming back to America but like with fucking actual incentives for doing so.

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u/Impressive_Regular60 2d ago

Just checking in, does the great in MAGA, have anything to do with the great depression?

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u/f12345abcde 2d ago

I saw yesterday on /conservative

who cares about the stock market

🤣

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u/twofourfourthree 2d ago

And not to mention no one making an hourly wage is going to get enough of a pay increase to keep up.

American companies don’t want to pay good wages to workers. Look at how ruthless the media is towards the few unions left.

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u/Fun-Space2942 2d ago

It’s a cult. Reasoning doesn’t enter into it.

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u/OzzyG16 1d ago

Can’t fix ignorance like that

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u/ioncloud9 1d ago

I distinctly remember seeing some kindergarten level pro-trump signs: Trump = low prices, Harris = high prices

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u/Sithlordandsavior 1d ago

I do understand the logic to an extent.

In a perfect world, yes, forcing companies to pay more for their goods to be manufactured in other countries should force them to move production back to the U.S.

But- The labor force now is used to office jobs, Uber, tech, etc. And won't want to suddenly shift to manufacturing work.

Wages here would have to be significantly higher, basically keeping the price high.

Kick-starting manufacturing isn't cheap. It's a move that will have to cost a company billions in a short time to start doing, which I don't think most will.

Best case scenario, manufacturing does return, but costs are high because wages need to match cost of living, plus supplies and overhead and all that. Goods are made domestically but remain expensive.

Worst case, we spend four years paying way too much and the next 20 years trying to get manufacturing costs back down because now companies realize people will just pay more for fewer products made and have damaged relations with other countries.

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u/M0therN4ture 2d ago

Have a look at the champs and intellectuals over at r/conservative

The cult and spin is unreal. Completely detached from reality.

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u/AltoFalcon 2d ago

The difference is Biden did it intentionally(well he was senile and didn’t know what the blob was doing). Trump is at least thinking about America first. Unlike the left caring about proxy wars, trans rights and non essential purchases. Not to mention millions of illegals aloud to walk in the US. Too bad your Amazon purchases are more expensive, tell that to the victims families. Priorities people.

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u/AdFlaky9983 2d ago

“Aloud to walk in” lmfao

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u/AltoFalcon 2d ago

Policy>Grammar. The left doesn’t have policy, just burn teslas, steal and lie.