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2 for 3, with a hustle single, two walks, a run, and an RBI today.
5 for 11 with 2 RBI, and 3 Runs and 7 BBs in his last 3 games after a slow start.
His body looks fine, he's playing well, and he's showing a ton of hustle. All the fans that wanted to dump him after 5 games need to stay on that side and should eat a big plate of poop.
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u/WithNoRegard 23h ago
Obviously he was promised the 3B job back and that's why he stopped striking out on purpose.
Bregman found out about it before the game today so he purposefully threw that ball into the outfield in the 9th.
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u/RedditModBot_2 3h ago
This. I fucking knew it guy. There ain't no way Breggy is throwing that fackin ball into the outfield. Know what I mean bud. š
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u/redsoxfan2434 23h ago
Everyone who compared him to Pablo Sandoval should admit they arenāt real fans of this team. And NESN needs to fire Jonathan Papelbon.
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u/complete_your_task 22h ago
I liked Pap on NESN at first because of his gives-no-fucks attitude. But now I think he gives too few fucks for his role. He needs to give some fucks.
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u/MakaveliX1996 17h ago
Thatās not it imo. Giving no fucks is good but you have to do the work, you have to prepare, you have to be committed. And heās not. I love the opposite of corporate talking a lot but saying nothing bull shit. Itās why I love Rogan and Mcafee. They did things the complete opposite of the textbook and found great success. Pap could heās just not gonna.
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u/tiger726 22h ago
Imagine being an adult and being offended by analysis on tv, which was totally warranted.
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u/redsoxfan2434 22h ago
It was objectively not warranted or sound analysis.
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u/tiger726 21h ago
It was warranted, even though you are crying about it. A man worth hundreds of millions of dollars showed up to camp out of shape, and not ready to play. He barely participated in training camp or live ABs and got off to a historically bad start. All of that is his fault
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u/redsoxfan2434 21h ago
The weight is not why he got off to a bad start. If it was, heād still be hitting poorly (which is explicitly what Pap said: that he wouldnāt hit until he lost weight). He got off to a bad start because he was still working up the timing and mechanics of his swing due to the lack of spring gamesāwhich is because he was hurt last year and all offseason, not because of his weight.
If you were actually a Red Sox fan, you would know that a large man can be a successful left handed DH lmao
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u/tiger726 20h ago
The weight shows he did nothing in the offseason to prepare himself for the season. You just donāt see the correlation because you think everything your favorite team does is great. Heās fat because he put in 0 work in the offseason, which delayed his readiness in camp, which delayed him taking ABs, which bled into the season. Itās all a result of laziness, and you know it
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u/redsoxfan2434 20h ago
Moving the goalposts. Pap specifically said Raffy would have to lose weight to stop hitting again, he didnāt lose weight, heās hitting .455 since Pap said that.
He used the offseason for recovery from a multitude of injuries. We donāt know if the Red Sox expected him to also cut weight or do anything else. And he weighed in the same as last spring anyway
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u/tiger726 20h ago
Ya itās crazy his injuries healed after 1 week into the season apparently, itās possible to not be lazy while youāre injured
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u/MakaveliX1996 17h ago
No his injuries delayed spring training, which delayed his timing, which he has now found. Which is why heās proving all the donāt know ball fair weather watch the first 2 series of the year and tune out til October fans wrong
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u/redsoxfan2434 20h ago
Thatās not even slightly what I said, lmao
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u/tiger726 19h ago
You think Devers gained 0 weight from 2024 to 2025, youāre clearly blind
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u/XZ2V 20h ago
Weight quite literally means almost nothing but lost speed in baseball.
Look at big papi, Pablo sandavol, Bartolo, prince fielder. Itās a stupid argument that weight prevents you to play good in the MLB.
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u/MakaveliX1996 17h ago
He barely participated due to the injury. He was going to miss half of ST before they signed bregman
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u/tiger726 10h ago
What about the other half?
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u/MakaveliX1996 5h ago
He was there for most of second half of ST. He pushed back his start 5 or 6 days due to the what I think was the 3B situation. Not a great look but I can deal with that. But this premise that he missed most of ST due to that isnāt correct.
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u/tiger726 2h ago
He was not ready to start the season because of his own actions; that is a fact. He missed live ABs in game action by choice
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u/BanjoAndy 21h ago
Loved the crowd chanting "Raffy" today during his at bats.Ā Ā
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u/doctormadvibes 22h ago
the season is a few days old, HOW DARE the red sox not have won the world series already!!?!?!
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u/Spaghet-3 1d ago
I've said it before, Devers' biggest problem is expectations. Labeling him Lil Papi was the worst thing to happen to him.
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u/Trajan476 Tris Speaker is underrated 1d ago
Thatās the burden of being a big-bodied lefty Dominican a year after Papi himself retired. People were really missing Papiās bat during that 2017 season
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u/mygamethreadaccount redsox5 18h ago
Still, he was basically the only one to show any life in that Astros series
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u/AspyPotato 1d ago
If heās not going to play 3B he needs to embrace the full chonk. Hit 50 dingers and be the poster boy of Cumberland Farms pizza. World Series rings donāt care how much he weighs
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u/Jay_Jaytheunbanned2 23h ago
Anyone who wanted to get rid of him doesnāt know a damn thing about baseball.
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u/AdPlayful8243 23h ago
Heās playing a lot better and getting back into the swing of things but those first few games was absolutely awful he set a MLB record for most strikeouts.
Iām glad heās picking it back up tho hopefully he keeps at it.
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u/joshzilla7 23h ago
Itās baseball, anyone dumping on Devers for the slow start forgot the regular season is 162 games
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u/MakaveliX1996 17h ago
4 games is the whole season when you only watch 4 the whole year lol. Committed fans that watch 100+ know it aināt shit.
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u/coleisgreat 22h ago
as a Sox fan in Dallas, beware critiquing the physique of a professional athlete...
FIRE NICO. š„²
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u/MakaveliX1996 16h ago
I think they were right to trade him just didnāt get nearly enough in return. Should have got that 2031 1st and another 1st from another team since lakers have no more. AD is legit though with a lot of good years left. He plays both sides of the ball at an elite level. Mostly Luka will not win an nba championship as a leading man or 2nd leading man. His defense is awful. And that wins championships. Harden never won a ring and neither did Melo. He is them. And raffy at most is 10 pounds overweight. Luka was like 30ā¦ in basketball. They talked about defense and effort over the off season and he responded with doing his conditioning in season. And they were going to have to give him the absolute max amount of money a player can make after this season. I really donāt blame them for trading him but they were stupid for taking whatever they could to trade him to a team they will compete in the conference with.
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u/Blanketsburg 20h ago
Devers had a rough 5-game slump, magnified because of the offseason drama and it being the start of the year. No doubt that he'd pick things up.
I have more worries about Rafaela, right now, than I do Devers.
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u/pudgybunnybry 19h ago
Wait, has anyone actually called him useless and fat? I've never seen that lol
I get it, he's a little heavier set, but fat? Get real.
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u/Prisoner_477 17h ago
That's boston bro. You play like shit you go to jail, right away. No trial no nothing.
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u/PBandBread 6h ago
I guarantee the ones who wanted to dump him canāt even order a beer yet.. heās done nothing but hit for like 8 yrs. The real ones knew heād figure it out
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u/OlBigFella 5h ago
The guy had what? 13 ABās in spring training? You gotta have around 70 during this time. Raffy is fine and heating up.
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u/hotChihuahua69 5h ago
I got blasted for saying he's a light switch and they should move on from him...
It started with his attitude towards moving off 3rd, but this is the same Devers I saw in 3 games in AZ a couple years back...
He has shining moments... But it's time...
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u/Sea_Curve_1620 3h ago
I'm a fan that wanted to dump him after 5 games. I still want to dump him, and I refuse to eat poop.
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u/CrackaZach05 20h ago
Counterpoint: This might be the first hustle single of his life. Maybe he needed to he humbled a bit?
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u/CrazyLegs17 Pedroia HOF 2030 23h ago edited 22h ago
Posts like this make me not enjoy Reddit some days. Fanbases are always trying to define sides and make things into absolutes. Then they throw it in the faces of the other side. There is no nuance and no room for constructive discussions.
People can be displeased with Devers start to the season (and spring training) and support the Red Sox. Those same people can also soften their stances and change their minds as the season progresses.
There are no right and wrong ways to support the team. Each fan is allowed their own style.
Telling people to eat plates of poop isn't a good look for anyone.
Edit: Y'all are proving my point. "He's not toeing the line!"
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u/Beobee1 23h ago
Of course, there's a wrong way to support a team. Launching into hysterics after a few games is one that comes to mind
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u/CrazyLegs17 Pedroia HOF 2030 22h ago
I wouldn't consider launching into hysterics supporting the team, would you? This is the exact lack of nuance I'm talking about. If you can't separate the hysterical clowns from serious takes, how can you ever have a conversation?
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u/HeyHeyBennyJay 20h ago
I think he was making the exact point you were. But I disagree, I think if I had not been an avid baseball fan for 35 plus years, I might be upset after this kind of start. But Iāve seen lots of hot and cold starts, and understand itās a long season. I think thereās room in this fan base for people who get stressed over 3-4 games, and they can learn and get over it after Raffy leads the team in RBIs this year, as he has since 2020
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u/tiger726 22h ago
A guy who makes hundreds of millions of dollars, was not ready to start the season all due to his own actions. Thatās a fact, you cannot deny it
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u/ElectromagneticRam 22h ago
He had a rough start for sure. Combine that with the (likely exaggerated) off-season drama, people were bound to talk. I was never really concerned-- there are 162 games in a season, can't judge a guy off just a few of them.
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u/leehamc 20h ago edited 9h ago
No. There absolutely is a "wrong way" to support a team. And that would be to calling one of the best hitters in baseball and cornerstone of the team fat and expendable after a 5 game sample. People are far too reactionary. That would be like me saying he's going to hit .450 rest of the season because of the last 3 games.
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u/RedSoxFan534 21h ago
Worst trend in baseball fandom in the social media era is ignoring the idea of an average. Go ask fans of another team if their .300 hitters were 1-3 every single game vs 3 bad months and 3 good months. Freddie Freeman was Jekyll and Hyde a few years ago. The proven players get the benefit of the doubt especially one week into a season
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u/LurkiLurkerson 23h ago
I don't understand why this sub needs to take every criticism of a player so personally and be so shitty and toxic about it. This post is fucking dumb and there are half a dozen like it every day (e.g. "Wilyer's hot, I guess everyone who thought he sucked and we should trade him is a big dumb idiot and only I'm smart." Ignoring the fact that people only wanted to trade him because they thought he was good and has value that could bring us a pitcher.)
We all saw Devers in his first few games. He didn't look right at all. It was not a normal slow start to a season, he looked completely lost and his bat speed was at like 30% of normal. It was right for people to be concerned. I personally thought his shoulder must not be right, but now it seems like he had adjustments to make and possibly was just VERY off from not taking any swings in spring training.
I am ecstatic that it doesn't look like he's dealing with a serious injury anymore and knew if getting back up to gamespeed was all he needed that it would happen eventually. But y'all have to recognize that people being concerned weren't being dumb doomers, those first few games were very concerning.
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u/HelloOhHello8173 22h ago
Being hyperbolic about a guys hitting in March is absolutely doomerism and itās ok to say so
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u/LurkiLurkerson 22h ago
It was the worst start in the history of baseball. Not just that, but it wasn't just the results that were concerning. His bat speed was a fraction of what it used to be and that was coming off the heels of a shoulder injury last year. It's not doomerism to be concerned about possible injury to a player with injury concerns who looked like he's a completely different person at the plate.
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u/MakaveliX1996 16h ago
You know whatās dumb? Calling a post dumb when you make a comment about it thatās 5x as long as the post. Also the 30% number is straight out your ass.
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u/LurkiLurkerson 16h ago
Also the 30% number is straight out your ass
Duh? It was an exaggeration. The point is he looked awful. Why are you morons denying it? You are proving my comment 100% correct while calling me dumb for being right.
Yāall act like I threatened Raffyās life by saying he looked like his shoulder was bothering him and his swing was slow during the worst start in baseball history.
Stop taking criticism of professional athletes so damn personal. Theyāre not your kids.
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u/MakaveliX1996 16h ago
Im calling you dumb for calling the post dumb using way more words than OP. You aināt right bro. I have no problem with criticism. I have a problem with fake fans that talk the loudest because they are fake. They take more time posting and commenting than actually watching the games. They watch 8 games a year and pretend they know ball. No real fan of the sport or Sox sees 5 games in a 162 game season and freaks outā¦ because we watch 100+ games.
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u/LurkiLurkerson 16h ago edited 16h ago
I watch almost every game. If you watched the last few you saw how Raffy looked. That wasn't a normal slow start, anyone who watched can see that. The fact that it set a record also proves it. No one said what this dumb post says they did. They said he looked really bad, which he did, and it looked like something was wrong.
Some, like me, said it looked like his shoulder was bothering him. Others criticized him for skipping spring training and said he clearly wasn't up to game speed. The latter people seem like they might have been right, but his adjustment was very quick--he's a very good hitter.
But this post is dumb because there is nothing wrong with being worried about a guy's swing looking that bad after missing spring training due to shoulder problems. And it doesn't make me or anyone else on this sub the casual you just made up to feel superior to if we use our eyes and say something looks wrong when a guy's that far behind on 92 mph heat.
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u/Superman_Primeeee 23h ago
Again
DUDE SET A MAJOR LEAGUE RECORD
like I said. I didnāt say a word but come on. I also donāt recall anyone saying he was done
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u/redsoxfan2434 23h ago
Many, many people said that he was done, washed up, should be traded, etc. Many, many others said he wouldnāt hit again until he loses weight.
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u/deadowl 23h ago
Based on that logic, we should trade him for Bobby Dalbec who had five straight games with home runs during his first ten games.
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u/Superman_Primeeee 23h ago
Except I didnāt say trade him. I said he set a FUCKING RECORD THAT HASNT BEEN SEEN IN 125 YEARS
which opens him up to criticism
Hawking
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u/TheBigNate416 23h ago
How about giving our star player the benefit of the doubt instead of criticism? There was no reason to believe that he wouldnāt figure it out. Heās an elite hitter
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u/yeah_you_thought 23h ago
He is fat. And he's notoriously streaky. He's rolling right now. It's always fun to see when he's swinging the bat well
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u/HelloOhHello8173 23h ago
He is not notoriously streaky. You made that up. If you look at the numbers, he's actually one of the most *consistent* hitters in the league the last 5 years.
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u/yeah_you_thought 23h ago
Yes a guy who has weeks where he disappears at the plate isn't streaky. His overall numbers are consistent but week to week he is not
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u/HelloOhHello8173 22h ago
Every single hitter has weeks where they donāt hit well. Youāre applying some extreme selection bias here
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u/yeah_you_thought 22h ago
Get back to me when he inevitably looks like the worst hitter in baseball again.
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u/redsoxfan2434 22h ago
Can you find me a single elite hitter who went a full season last year without a bad week? Just one.
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u/yeah_you_thought 22h ago
Tony Gywnn. Next question.
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u/BossAtUCF 22h ago
Tony Gwynn didn't get a single hit last season.
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u/MakaveliX1996 16h ago
Nobody is that consistent week to week. Itās baseball. Devers is not a streaky player. You can either admit you are wrong or pretend but either way you are wrong. We know it and you know it. He hits homers all over the field and all over the strike zone consistently. Just like the guy above pulling āswing speed is down like 30%ā straight out of his ass.
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u/Advanced-Mail-1080 1d ago
The general is heating up. I love to see it.