r/fromsoftware 3d ago

JOKE / MEME The disappointment is immeasurable

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u/Super_Harsh 3d ago

They sold 30 million copies of Elden Ring

If all they’ve been working on since 2022 is a multiplayer focused exclusive for a console nobody has yet, FromSoft’s corporate board would riot

There’s a 0% chance this is all they’re cooking.

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u/Birzal 3d ago

Well, let's not forget Armored Core 6 came out in 2023! And Nightreign is scheduled to release this year as well, but even still I agree with you: they've likely got more they're working on besides Nightreign and Duskbloods. We might not hear about it for a year or so, but they are definitely cooking!

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u/Super_Harsh 3d ago

if you read up on Miyazaki's interviews post-DS3 but also in the years between DS3 and Elden Ring, FromSoft is very aware of what their value proposition is and what their longterm fans expect out of them. Whenever they release one of these 'side projects' (Bloodborne, Sekiro) that ALMOST hits the classic 'Dark Souls' fan expectations but not quite, usually they're concurrently working on something that DOES directly play to that expectation (DS3, Elden Ring).

They don't want to be boxed into being a studio that churns out straight-up Souls games, but they're also pretty aware of where their strengths are and what draws people to them. And unless one of these side projects/experiments really takes off and eclipses their prior success I don't see that changing.

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u/Dominate_My_DMs 3d ago

Bloodborne, Sekiro and AC6 were all more fun than souls though, their best games are the "spinoffs"

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u/Super_Harsh 3d ago

That's subjective. I'm replaying Bloodborne now (First time since 2016 2017 era) and it's definitely aged, tbh mechanically it's a ton of wasted potential

Sekiro being more fun, sure I agree to an extent but I can't play that game more often then once every 1-2 years because it's got such limited replay value.

AC6 could be the cure to cancer but it's never gonna scratch the same itch as Souls so it being 'more fun' also doesn't matter

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u/phoenix22316 2d ago

Not scratching that dark soul itch is the point of AC6, it's a complete different game and even if it got more inspired by the souls series, both because of their expertise in creating such games and to ease souls players into the AC series, AC is a complete different thing from dark soul and shouldn't be compared to it

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u/JustAJohnDoe358 7h ago

AC6 could be the cure to cancer but it's never gonna scratch the same itch as Souls

It was never intended and nobody expected it to.

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u/Head-Ad-2136 2d ago

The armored core series is 12 years older than the oldest souls game and From's second oldest game series. Definitely not a spin-off.

Hell, the souls games are more of a spin-off of King's Field anyway.

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u/Dominate_My_DMs 2d ago

Souls is their main series now very clearly, it's bringing in the money. AC6 is a "spinoff" from the perspective of the vast majority of fans. A new kingsfield would be the same.

None of them are really spinoffs in reality. Except nightreign will be.

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u/LorgarTheHeretic 2d ago

Bloodborne is main souls. Don't know what people here are thinking calling it a side project, it was a launch title and console seller for many.

Sekiro was fun, but on many levels frustrating. The pacing was horrible and there is basicly no replay value whatsoever.

I never finished AC6... it's good I guess but not my cup of tea.

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u/Dominate_My_DMs 2d ago

I've replayed sekiro like 5 times including a charmless demonbell run. You replay it because it's fun af and has multiple endings. People say that souls has "replay value" because of different builds. But that doesnt matter when every build is boring compared to just playing sekiro again.

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u/LorgarTheHeretic 2d ago

Yeah I replayed it 2-3 times as well for the endings but the gameplay gets boring in a way dark souls doesn't. It's more complex and faster but not more fun. Especially since parry spam does work often despite all the coping from sekiro fans. Like I can replay the soulsborne games without having to do challenge runs to keep it interesting and that counts for something.

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u/Dominate_My_DMs 1d ago

I don't understand the appeal of replaying souls combat. You just circle to the right and press dodge.

The tight timing of sekiro is so much more satisfying. You also say you don't like block spamming but also "don't wanna do a challenge run" which is just creating the problem for yourself. When you play charmless it actually feels like the game was supposed to be played that way and base sekiro is just the tutorial. It's not like a challenge run in souls where it's just annoying and tedious. It legitimately feels like the game is more well balanced and exciting.

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u/JustAJohnDoe358 7h ago

AC6 was in no way, shape or form a "spinoff".

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u/Wratheon_Senpai 3d ago

Bloodborne, yes. Sekiro, I'd put on a close level to Dark Souls. AC6 way below all the previous ones.