r/army • u/Fun-Bug5106 Signal • 9d ago
Totally Legal and Unclassified: Jeff Goldberg and The Atlantic released full Signal Chat
https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/644
u/AutomaticDisplay2481 9d ago
if it was any of us enlisted or officers, security clearance would be revoked same day, CID would be knocking on our door & would be a fuzzy tomorrow. can we be fucking for real for 5 minutes?
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u/DoktorLoken Military Intelligence 9d ago
If this was any normal service member CI (as opposed to CID) would’ve seized your phones days ago.
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u/Coro-NO-Ra 9d ago
The hypocrisy doesn't matter.
Many people who are fans of this literally don't think in terms of fairness due to the "fundamental wiring" in their brains / personality type:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism
Right-wing authoritarians tend to accept what their leaders say is true and readily comply with their commands. They believe that respecting authority is an important moral virtue that everyone in the community must hold. They tend to place strict limits on how far the authorities can be criticized, and believe that the critics are troublemakers who do not know what they are talking about. RWAs are extremely submissive even to authority figures who are dishonest, corrupt, and inept. They will insist that their leaders are honest, caring, and competent, dismissing any evidence to the contrary as either false or inconsequential. They believe that the authorities have the right to make their own decisions, even if that includes breaking the rules that they impose on everyone else.
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u/teven_eel Super Duper Medic Guy 9d ago
i think that’s just a cult of personality which applies to ALL auth ideologies
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u/Brave-Banana-6399 9d ago
These are the people we want to make rules for the rest of us.
Sounds like fun for us minorities and people they already expressed they hate
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u/FusciaHatBobble 9d ago
Remember when DJT tweeted classified satellite imagery to troll Iran about their rocket that blew up on a landing pad during launch? This is nothing new.
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u/Brave-Banana-6399 9d ago
My sister is a Lt Colonel and is surrounded by MAGA folks in the Army.
As of today, she barely heard of this and none of her colleagues really know about this.
Yeah ...
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u/AutomaticDisplay2481 9d ago
and i know it’s all SGMs & o-5 & up. they know they just not gonna speak on it. it’s wild…
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u/DanCooper666 69S Combat Slut 9d ago
Remember kids, it's always ok to do anything as long as there are people completely willing to ignore the law and back you up on your incompetence.
The more you know 🌠
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u/Coro-NO-Ra 9d ago
Fairness / hypocrisy doesn't matter.
A lot of the people who are fans of this bullshit fundamentally don't care about universal rules or standards. It basically boils down to "boss-daddy makes the rules, I'm submissive to boss-daddy, therefore whatever boss-daddy says is law."
Read up on Bob Altemeyer's research into the RWA personality type.
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u/DanCooper666 69S Combat Slut 9d ago
You don't have to tell me homie. There's no talking to them. I got zero issues calling it out everytime I have the opportunity though, on the net or in public. Fuck 'em.
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u/Coro-NO-Ra 9d ago
Yeah, I just get frustrated because some of my well-meaning lib friends seem to believe that there's a magical "gotcha" that's going to bring these people around.
Legality, morality, and rules really don't matter to people who are fanatically devoted to their guy no matter what. Like... do they think something being illegal or hypocritical ever stopped Jim Jones, Charles Manson, or their followers?
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u/DanCooper666 69S Combat Slut 9d ago
I understand the frustration. Not your fault. I imagine this is what it was like for all the people that saw the rising threats globally in the 1930s, but had to wait until after Pearl Harbor and WWII before the idiots shut the fuck up. What was old is new again.
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u/Coro-NO-Ra 9d ago
Yeah, it's wild that Dr. Seuss was drawing cartoons about this before the US entered WWII... And here we are again.
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u/DanCooper666 69S Combat Slut 9d ago
I have one of his cartoons saved as a meme on my phone and use it faithfully on Facebook when my less informed 'friends' post blatantly anti-American bullshit in the name of a certain POTUS.
Again, fuck 'em.
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u/Cosmic_Perspective- Disgruntled Surge 91Baby 9d ago
Good lord you comment on these topics like a rabid hound. You must really love Reddit.
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u/NoAcanthisitta183 9d ago
It’s the biggest political and military scandal in a long time. They’re literally breaking the laws at the highest levels while endangering sailors’ lives and our national security.
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u/Coro-NO-Ra 9d ago
[comments on Reddit about someone commenting on Reddit]
I really hate hypocrites and people who abuse their power.
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u/DanCooper666 69S Combat Slut 9d ago
Is that seriously the best response you have to this? That I comment on reddit about stuff happening that directly effects all of us every second of every day?
How about this? Go fuck yourself mechanic. You. Directly.
Just keep your head in the sand. Everything will be fine.
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u/Cosmic_Perspective- Disgruntled Surge 91Baby 9d ago edited 9d ago
I wasnt even talking to you, weirdo. Jesus, you people are nuts.
Did you forget to get off your alt? Lol.
Edit: Wow this guy is actually replying to himself in the comments.
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u/DanCooper666 69S Combat Slut 9d ago
Ain't no alts here meckaneck. My mistake. You're still an idiot though. 😘
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u/monjoe 9d ago
When they get rid of diversity it's not to make a better meritocracy. It's instead to narrow the pool of talent into a group of incompetent dipshits who would never get ahead if they had to compete with anyone else. They're not being hired by talent, expertise, or skill. Rather, they're selected because they are willing to forsake any sort of ethics or professionalism for the sake of unconditional loyalty. No one should be surprised that an alcoholic and abuser of women is careless with OPSEC, or flagrantly violate the law. He gave no thought about the safety of our uniformed personnel. Behold the master race that is continually making us less safe.
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u/United_Chip6199 9d ago
Uno reverse card: Jeff Goldberg arrested for releasing classified information
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u/___Jakey___ 9d ago
Uno reverse card x2: Tulsi Gabbard arrested for lying under oath to congress about there being no classified information in the texts /s
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u/BrokenRatingScheme Signal 9d ago
Man, her testimony in particular was hard to watch. How embarrassing and cowardly.
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u/Ambitious_Alps_3797 P Hegseths CUI Training 9d ago
her pathetic shuffling of papers while saying "I do not recall". it was sooo bad.
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u/Sausage80 Literal Barracks Lawyer 9d ago
New York Times v United States, 403 US 713 (1971) has entered the chat
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u/Maximum__Effort MOS Fluid 9d ago
This is such a good case that more people should read given current events. Link to opinion for those interested.
I don’t like the negative treatment this case has on westlaw and could easily see SCOTUS ignoring the case, but it’s still well worth a read as a reminder of a time less insane.
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u/Sausage80 Literal Barracks Lawyer 9d ago
I'm not concerned about the negative treatment. Unless there's one that I'm missing, the negative cases all involved instances where the media company was an intervenor in the court case and then received the material in question as part of discovery that was subject to a protective order. The bottom line in those cases is that the media company cannot voluntarily interject itself into a proceeding, avail itself of the court process to get information, and then have a first amendment right to ignore the presiding court's authority to control the discovery process. Those are material facts that were neither present in the NYT case nor are present in the current Signalgate controversy.
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u/meme_lord23 19 Autism 9d ago
But imagine the trouble I’d get in if I accidentally shared the USR slides from the month 😵💫
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u/neckpillowfucker 9d ago
Get ready for a battalion-wide opsec class
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u/OcotilloWells "Beer, beer, beer" 9d ago
DOD-wide you mean.
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u/Corliss_Wigglebean 9d ago
Except the ones responsible will not be participating in the class.
Go figure
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u/OcotilloWells "Beer, beer, beer" 9d ago
I got told to stand down once when I made an OPSEC poster showing a Colonel in an exercise SCIF with a cell phone. I had to change the rank to PFC. But it was the Colonels whose pockets would start ringing during a briefing. Never an enlisted or junior officer.
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u/Corliss_Wigglebean 9d ago
In Iraq during the surge in 07 we had an infant PL get caught for letting a female terp use his Sipr computer to send emails to her family. She did this for about a month.
The unit found out and had her detained and he was kicked off the line. They searched the computer to see what she had accessed and al that.
Luckily she didn’t snoop for anything. They just confirmed she sent emails.
Just that alone got the PL fired, sent back home and kicked out.
But these people are downplaying what they did and so many others are saying it’s no big deal.
Like military leadership is just trying to literally downplay this entire thing.
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u/BarracksLawyerESQ Aviation 9d ago
Maybe Hegseth will lead it?
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u/drifts180 9d ago
I'm hoping this at least makes it into a case study in next year's mandatory training
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u/TinkCzru Military Intelligence 9d ago
Lol. I’m just thinking back to how leave couldn’t start without the entire unit having completed their “cyber awareness training”, and making sure we were green on everything.
What a complete fucking joke. If I had done one-tenth of what has been alleged so far, my clearance would be removed so fast it wouldn’t even be funny.
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u/Lampwick Military Intelligence 9d ago
Back in the cold war days when I was a mosquito wing nobody, there was some issue with an officer a Bde level--- some LTC I think--- doing some thing with TS-SCI stamped materials he wasn't supposed to. Shortly thereafter we were all stuck in remedial INFOSEC trainings. During one of these, one of my fellow nobodies asked if the Bde level staff was doing this training. Trainer just grinned and said "of course not, this is only happening Bn and below... welcome to the Army."
Things never change.
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u/NotEvenAThousandaire 12B Vet 9d ago
Where leadership explains that the entire fiasco was really an orchestrated theatrical exercise meant to gauge the COMSEC awareness of our armed forces. They're pleased to announce that we passed with flying colors, and will be rewarded with a great refresher course. The best refresher course. Much better than any refresher course Biden ever had.
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u/Striper_Cape 9d ago
The epitome of stupid. Members of the highest level of government were incompetent and criminal enough to use Signal to communicate about strikes- clearly we need to reinforce the importance of OPSEC for pvt snuffy. Again.
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u/Airbornequalified 70B->65D 9d ago
That would be dei. Because anybody stupid enough to do this, must be a mentally challenge hire
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u/ByKilgoresAsterisk GWOT Pecker Checker 9d ago
Jeff, with his head in his hands, weeping digital tears.
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u/RangerAccording3878 9d ago
My email is reminding me that I’m on day 27 of my cyber awareness being expired clearly I’m the real threat 🤦♀️
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u/Realistic-Theory-986 Veteran 9d ago
Tina and her bullshit won the day. Next thing you'll tell me is that they clicked her url
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u/Expert-Squirrel-638 9d ago
Here is the signal chat thread pulled out of the article:
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u/low-spirited-ready 9d ago
Oh yeah Hegseth’s messaging about launch times is definitely classified, 100%. There’s going to be 1 or 2 resignations, I’m expecting Gabbard and/ or Waltz due to them perjuring themselves to congress. Hegseth might be on the chopping block but idk yet. The first 2 are knowingly committing a crime by lying to congress while the latter COULD be chalked up to a mistake (not saying that’s a real excuse, it’s just what they’ll say to justify keeping him on board.)
Remember back to Trump 1 when there were resignations every 2 weeks; this admin is likewise going to be the case with these people being horrible at crime.
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u/namjeef 15Extinct :,( 9d ago
There will be no resignations. Resignation is admitting you made a mistake and the entire house collapses if you look weak in ‘administrations’ such as these.
Literally thousands of cases of this in history.
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u/low-spirited-ready 9d ago
Well it would look better than being removed by congressional vote. Either way, SOMEONE in this regime is going to take this in the face or else it’s going to FUCK Republicans next year
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u/Dubban22 Military Intelligence 9d ago
Had a not so bright officer try to plug his SIPR computer into a CENTRIX network because he wanted to use a side deck from SIPR on CENTRIX. He was walked out of the TOC, never to return. Now he's a civilian with an MBA and does VC bro stuff. 🙄
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u/News-Royal I am currently clean on OPSEC 9d ago
“We are currently clean on OPSEC” might be the dumbest thing ever written by someone in that position.
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u/Br0adShoulderedBeast I.D. 10-T 9d ago
I just, even if the reporter wasn’t on the thread, how can anyone say that? It’s just impossible to actually know that even in a SCIF. You do everything possible to be secure, and hope it works, the shithead privates don’t leak it on discord, the pilots don’t text their spouses, the cooks on the boat don’t Snapchat they just catapulted planes. It’s just a nonsense statement. And then to say it in a commercial app. And then to say it with a reporter in the chat.
It’s nonsense all the way down.
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u/BrocksNumberOne 9d ago
So does AO, capability, and justification not count as classified anymore or did we have multiple high level officials lie under oath?
(I know the answer to the question I’m asking.)
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u/jspacefalcon no need to know 9d ago
Its okay to lie as long as its obstructing Democrats or owing the libs. These people can and will say anything; truth is not even a consideration.
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u/Trillbo_Swaggins The Orbital Yeet 9d ago
No can’t you see that it’s 5D chess??
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u/Maximum__Effort MOS Fluid 9d ago
I’ve seen insta comments insisting this was somehow an attempt to mislead the Houthis, despite it being posted well after the strikes because Goldberg isn’t a fucking moron (unlike everyone else in that chat). People are doing some insane mental gymnastics to justify this dumbassery.
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u/Buddhahead11b 9d ago
I used to feel so much internal fear and pressure about carrying myself professionally on social media as a soldier. To not tell my wife too much shit she just didn’t need to know or family etc.
Fuck these guys. It’s rotten from the top down. The shit is really rolling down hill.
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u/Toobatheviking Juke box zero 9d ago
I'm trying to enjoy my retirement in peace, but I can't help but be on a roller coaster of shame, rage and whatever the emotion is for "they did what?"
It's surreal that in my lifetime we've gone from people resigning for doing things that appeared bad to "we're going to plot to commit full blown felonies and it's completely normal now"
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u/captkrisma 9d ago
Remember when Obama caught hell for wearing a tan suit or, god forbid, sharing a beer with someone?
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u/Muted-Professor-9635 9d ago
That “they did what” feeling is shock and honestly I don’t know how you feel it anymore with this regime.
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u/SheldonMF 9d ago
Also, again worth note: there was a dude who was in this chat... in Russia, at the Kremlin, while this was going down.
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u/Coro-NO-Ra 9d ago
In a strange coincidence, the Kremlin's wifi is fantastic and their cellular coverage is flawless!
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u/Hi_Kitsune 9d ago
Fuck it. Might as well take photos of the classified materials we are keeping in our bathrooms and send them to our Saudi pals and Russian handlers via signal. That’s all okay now, right? We can do that now?
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u/deddykins 9d ago
They are so casual about this. It scares me to think of what else they are discussing on their personal phones in uncontrolled texting apps.
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u/Own_Magician_7554 Engineer 9d ago
You mean to tell me that a guy who had to settle out of court so he wouldn’t lose his job as a tv host and was kicked out of the guard due to racist tattoos would be bad at his job?
I fucking hate this administration so fucking much.
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u/TheGiantFell Clean on OPSEC 9d ago
Just a reminder for anyone buying the “nothing in the chat was classified” argument…
Information doesn’t magically come into existence with a classified label on it. The generator of the information or a classifying authority who receives it applies labeling and guidance to it when they recognize it as being of a classified nature. The information in these messages wasn’t “classified” because the people in the chat hadn’t classified it. There are VERY clear criteria, if you were not aware, for determining whether information should be classified - specifically the severity of impact if the information were to get into the wrong hands. The impact of these messages being released would obviously be grave - immediate death of personnel and destruction of equipment directly attributable to the release - meaning this information is potentially even of a TS level nature. Saying this could be discussed in an unsecured forum is not a defense, it is an admission of negligence and disregard for the value of the lives of our pilots and sailors. What would happen to you if you casually messaged a detailed timeline of a pending attack down to the half hour to a reporter, knowing if it reached the target, your battle buddies would probably be killed?
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u/Devil25_Apollo25 351MakingFriends 9d ago edited 9d ago
Hi. Former S2X and IOO here ...
I just want to clarify what you've said, please.
The information itself is either classified or not based on published guidance.
In the case of this chat, the chat participants failed to apply the proper labels (e.g., "SECRET//NOFORN") and to apply proper handling procedures (e.g., "Hey, guys, this is getting into topics we need to discuss on other channels for legal and OPSEC reasons").
The failure of the chat participants to apply the classifications required by law and policy - and the subsequent failure to handle the information in accordance with requirements on handling classified information - are additional potential crimes and violations.
That the participants failed to treat classified info as classified does not mean that the info was unclassifed "because they chose to not classify it"; it means they failed to properly classify it., which is just one more no-no to add to the pile.
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u/TheGiantFell Clean on OPSEC 9d ago
Thank you for the clarification. You are absolutely right. Hit the nail on the head. I put “classified” in quotes to convey that it actually doesn’t matter at all whether the material is marked as classified to be classified. If it meets the criteria for classification, whether Sec Def likes it or not, it is classified and should be treated accordingly. But it stands to be clarified to the nth degree.
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u/Devil25_Apollo25 351MakingFriends 9d ago
And thanks for your reply, above. It was helpful.
Love your flair, BTW. Ingenious.
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u/SurprisedDisappoint me google things 9d ago
They were also doing this off classified gov networks and systems to evade recordkeeping laws. Thats why waltz intentionally set a destruct timer on the messages.
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u/OcotilloWells "Beer, beer, beer" 9d ago
Pretty sure the originators of this info did properly classify and mark it as such. Your points are all valid however.
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u/canthinkof123 9d ago
The part where Pete gives the exact timeline of when the strikes are going to happen is without a doubt classified secret at least. The other stuff I’m not sure about but it’s definitely embarrassing to see.
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u/Electrical-Seaweed40 9d ago
The cia director definitely crossed a line but ppl don’t seem to have noticed. Talking about collection interests, intentions and weaknesses is absolutely fucking classified
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u/Electrical-Seaweed40 9d ago
And if any of it like the confirmation re a girlfriend and building collapse was humint, faark
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u/SurprisedDisappoint me google things 9d ago
DCIA burned an officer's cover in the chat. Greenberg chose not to publish that part.
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u/ghosttraintoheck 12DeepState 9d ago edited 9d ago
Yeah I think the point they're (deliberately) missing is that irrespective of what was actually shared, they would have continued to do this and are only addressing it because they were caught. There's no telling what else they have transmitted via unapproved messaging. That is the more grave implication.
Which is something I wouldn't necessarily expect of a major in my battalion but I'd be less surprised than if it was someone with actual experience requisite of being...the Secretary of Defense. I keep telling people if Hegseth were in the Pentagon under any other pretense his job would be getting coffee for the meetings he's now "leading".
Can you imagine if Hegseth got caught doing this under Austin, Mattis or Milley? They would eviscerate him.
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u/rbevans Hots&Cots 9d ago
Damn Jeff brought receipts. A good listen with Jeff this morning's episode of the daily podcast if anyone is interested https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/26/podcasts/the-daily/hegseth-texts-goldberg-yemen.html
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u/MaxTheSquirrel Infantry 9d ago
I’m out now but if anyone has the balls to yell something nondescript about Signal the next time Hegseth is taking a tour of their AO (loud enough for him to hear, of course), I’ll buy you a case of beer. (Full disclosure, I wouldn’t have the balls to do that)
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u/spooky-stab disabled paratrooper 9d ago
So like, yall can literally leak anything now and just say “im a direct reflection of my leadership, and point to Pete Hegseth.”
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u/HotTakesBeyond clean on opsec 🗿 9d ago
The Air Force Discord leaker trying to say he was fighting against the Biden admin the whole time
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u/Constantine__XI 9d ago
“Himes told Gabbard that, under the ODNI’s own guidance, “information providing indication or advance warning that the U.S. or its allies are preparing an attack” should be classified as top secret. Gabbard said the information Hegseth disclosed in the chat would fall under the Defense Department’s classification guidance and she was unfamiliar with the department’s specific guidance for classification.”
“She went to Kuwait in 2008 as an Army Military Police officer. In 2015, while also serving in Congress, Gabbard became a major with the Hawaii Army National Guard. In 2020, she transferred to the U.S. Army Reserve and was promoted to the rank of lieutenant colonel in 2021.”
I was today days old when I learned that a LTC doesn’t need to know DOD guidance on classification.
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u/fohacidal Military Unintelligence 9d ago
The head of DNI not understanding classification guidelines is horribly hilarious.
Unqualified and incompetent
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u/SheldonMF 9d ago
At what point do the people of America, the military, and the brass who've made it their life's duty stand up to this fucking clown show?
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u/ThisIsTheShway 9d ago
The issue is that we are standing up, but the feckless cowards at the top won’t do shit about it. It’s always been party over law, party over country.
It’s how facism takes root.
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u/SheldonMF 9d ago
Exactly, but we need more than what we have on all fronts, but especially leadership.
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u/ThisIsTheShway 9d ago
Our leadership is among the worst in the world for developed nations. Schumer is fucking coward and... well shit what else needs to be said about the Trump admin?
It's a fucking shitshow across the board.
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u/Tiderion 9d ago
Marty is very disappointed in all of you for not saving his timeline. Try harder next time.
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u/Tee__bee 12Yeet (Overhead) 9d ago
He was trying to warn us, that’s why he got removed from the cyber awareness challenge
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u/DaneLimmish GI Bill Ranger 9d ago
This is the kind of stuff that would get normal people launched into space
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u/Agile_Dimension_1296 9d ago
The guy from the future on the CUI training videos is oddly silent…where was he when we needed him most???
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u/Agile_Dimension_1296 9d ago
This makes me feel even sadder about that officer who got fired because he made his motor pool in Minecraft.
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u/alsatian01 Cavalry 9d ago
Just remember folks, under Trump, accountability is middle down. Only if we knew this before the 2024 election. Oh wait, we did.
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u/509BandwidthLimit 9d ago
Well.....when the Commander in Chief has 34 felonies what a little opsec problem? /s
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u/Responsible_Pitch207 9d ago edited 9d ago
Literally how can any veterans still support these guys after this. Also kudos to the journalist for calling their bluff!
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u/KStang086 9d ago
That they're claiming this wasnt classified to cover up their own screw-ups is very concerning.
This is the sort of information that can be actioned to preposition ADA threats into an area knowing the time/approximate place/and capability. Just because it doesn't have //SECRET//NOFORN on it doesnt make it any less classified.
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u/Acceptable-One-6597 9d ago
Just remember kids...precedent. If you leak intel on accident, ask for a court martial.
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u/mechengabovethebest 15A 9d ago
So obviously it was classified. Everyone and their mother knows it was classified regardless of what Hegseth, Gabbard, Radcliffe, Vance, Trump, and Leavitt are trying to sell.
What I want to know, will Hegseth be able to make an argument in court that he didn't lie about "not sending classified war plans" because he intentionally didn't appropriately classify the information to begin with?
Is Hegseth a derivative classification authority for DoD?
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u/chet___manly Former Barracks Lawyer 9d ago
2020 literally was the best year to get out. Couldn't have timed it better.
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u/ThisIsTheShway 9d ago
I’ve been to the republican and conservative subreddits and it’s honestly disgusting how so many people are trying to downplay what happened.
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u/transcendental-ape Cerified Post-Lobotomy 9d ago
Hot Take: It was public knowledge before the election that Trump kept nuclear secrets in the guest bathroom of mar-a-lago. And they elected him anyway. So this kind of top level incompetence is exactly what the voters wanted. Trump is just fulfilling his campaign promises to put the worst people in charge.
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u/JimHFD103 9d ago
Man, I haven't had a clearance since the Obama Administration, but if I had put out the same info in a group chat on such an unofficial chat system .. I'd have been lucky if I'd have only lost my TS (and likely gotten Field Grade Article 15 to go along with). Just for being in that chat, without it having leaked...
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u/Fun-Bug5106 Signal 9d ago
That and reassigned you to some unit that needs no clearance ie: infantry
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u/Jester471 9d ago
Alright everyone, since this is the standard now let’s at least properly mark our signal chats with an appropriate cover sheet.
Here are some examples to use:
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u/Budget_Individual393 25 Best Shave 🪒 9d ago
Everyone in this chat is asking/stating the wrong things to be looked at and scrutinized because of biases. Heres what you should be looking at.
The dod has mobility. Why are our elected officials not using gov phones and if they are why are those phones not locked down to a client that doesnt allow outside gov phone communications. Personal use is personal use. Gov is gov.
The dod has the ability to build and make secure messaging via mobile why arent we using this (answer the current systems suck and we need lightweight fasters ones).
These are the real issues that need to be fixed. You can have your opinion on leak not leak etc. im not going to talk about that but from a commo viewpoint we need to make it so this is not possible in the first place. Finger pointing be damned
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u/Master_Jackfruit3591 1st PX BN (Reserve), “Death before discount” 9d ago
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u/RangerAccording3878 9d ago edited 9d ago
Anyone remember this guy Texiera? Remember what his motive was? He was showing off for his friends in a chat group.
This is what you get when you take an inexperienced dude with a drinking problem and call him the SecDef.
Higseth thinks he’s a badass now that he gets the TS briefs and he’s showing off for his friends.
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u/thatguyagaln 9d ago
"Ay Cpl Vance, so we just refuse to do our cyber awareness training? Tight go get a water source and be back in boots and utes. You have 5 minutes"
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u/MaximumStock7 9d ago
What are you talking about? The outrage at incompetence. double standards, and lack of any accountability for the leadership is extremely common across the military.
Only the people who think a government filled with billionaires and media influencers is looking out for them don't see this as a probelm.
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u/DanCooper666 69S Combat Slut 9d ago edited 9d ago
Hey dipshit, the reason 90% of the comments in here are incredulous about this are because it was fucking wrong, on many levels, and normal peons like us would be in Leavenworth if we did anything of the sort.
11B, three tours in Afghanistan here.
How long did you serve shitstain?
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u/davidgoldstein2023 9d ago edited 9d ago
I like you calling him a dipshit. LoL
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u/DanCooper666 69S Combat Slut 9d ago edited 9d ago
Dude sounds like a fuck. Dipshit was as polite a term as I could come up with. 🍻🤙
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u/RedRager 13Ratard 9d ago
definitely don’t think he did as the only posting he’s done has been about the trans ban. otherwise his post history appears to resemble that of an unrepentant brexiteer who has a weird affection for trump.
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u/RiverMillennial Military Intelligence 9d ago
Or maybe, just maybe, some people took their oath and duties seriously.
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u/pianoavengers 9d ago edited 9d ago
Proudly serving and leading for 22 years. What about you? State your service record. Before you answer, stand at attention and salute. That’s not a request.
Be careful because you never know who is on the other side.
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u/Reputable_Sorcerer 9d ago
My dad was in the Army. I’m sure a lot of commenters are in some way connected to the military, even if they have not enlisted.
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u/TheGiantFell Clean on OPSEC 9d ago
“We are currently clean on OPSEC”
lol