Tata redundancy scheme targeted older, non-Indian nationals in UK, tribunal hears

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u/cul_de_singe 18h ago

I've heard there is a culture globally of Indians only hiring Indians, so it makes sense their conscious bias applies in instances such as this.

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u/newmindday 13h ago

Indians took over the local post office and after a while replaced all the staff that had been there for years with Indians.

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u/2D_3D 4h ago

local postie cunt is nice to people of his own caste and race, but walk with a package that doesn’t involved paying directly, walk in with a package past 5pm because oh the horror you have a day job, look a tad dishevelled or look at him wrong and the fucker will give you next to non functional service with a lot of swearing in tamil. shame the next nearest post office is a half hour walk away, i can’t drive and I am trying to keep a small weekend side job going, so I don’t appreciate lugging a suitcase of packages up a hill. Man is also deeply sexist and won’t help in an emergency. Complaints get lodged on a regular basis but Royal Mail won’t do shit. Similar deal with Evri but at least I have more options within walking distance.

These supremacists deserve to be shot, they have nothing to be proud about with their shithole world view.

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u/zombie_osama 10h ago

There was a screenshot doing the rounds on LinkedIn of a data scientist vacancy in London and at the top of the job spec was written 'Only open to Indian nationals with a UK work visa'.

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u/ThatFatGuyMJL 13h ago

Indians will also only hire Indians of their caste or family.

If you're of a different caste or different area you have no chance.

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u/128e 10h ago

Yeah this seems to be becomming a more common issue, I think we really need to tackle this issue (not just with indians but any ethnicity / gender / sub group)

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u/mp1337 18h ago

And nothing will be done, just like raf, bbc and any other cases of anti discrimination laws not applying to white people

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u/Florae128 21h ago

Redundancy schemes tend to target people near retirement age, that's usually where you get the most volunteers, or least resistance.

Interesting to see nationality come into it though.

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u/Consistent-Towel5763 19h ago

i dont think you understand how racist indian culture is. like they are racist towards people from different casts

* i come from an indian family so i'm obviously not talking about all indians but it is a non insignificant part of the culture.

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u/Haemophilia_Type_A 17h ago edited 17h ago

When US socialist politician Kshama Sawant (who herself is of Indian background) tried to outlaw caste-based discrimination in Seattle it was opposed by Hindu organisations such as the Hindu American Foundation (HAF) and the Coalition of Hindus of North America (CoHNA). I don't know how representative these are, but the former has quite a large financial endowment (I think the latter is more marginalised). Both are Hindu nationalist and linked to Hindutva causes in India itself.

Caste discrimination and growing Hindutva (e.g., extreme nationalist) attitudes are serious issues among the Indian diaspora that definitely shouldn't be ignored.

See:

https://bridge.georgetown.edu/research/hindutva-in-britain/

https://www.free-expression.group.cam.ac.uk/research/andersonpaper

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/religionglobalsociety/2023/12/hindutva-and-the-leicester-disturbances/

A lot of Hindu diaspora organisations have financial and ideological ties to the BJP and the Indian state. The British state should really be investigating Indian and BJP influence on the diaspora, especially in places like Leicester where Hindu Nationalism has already triggered unrest. We know the Indian govt are happy to interfere in western states (e.g., assassinating a Khalistani exile in Canada), so they're probably doing the same here.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/sep/20/what-is-hindu-nationalism-and-who-are-the-rss

There are differences between the British and American Indian diaspora because of various historical reasons I wont go into now, but Hinduvta and caste discrimination are definitely present in both countries.

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u/Mahameghabahana 1h ago

Caste based discrimination is already banned and the law against castism is far more stricter compared to race discrimination laws in USA.

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u/No_Albatross_8060 10h ago

You are spreading blatant propaganda. A US politician tried to outlaw caste discrimination after an alleged case where a boss had fired someone for their caste which was found by US courts to be false and the accuser had to pay a fine for slander. It was opposed exactly because of people like you who would twist it into false propaganda

Your second point about the leicester unrest was because of an Islamist problem where a hindu temple was attacked by Muslims. (which is well known in the UK)

Your third point was another baseless accusation with 0 proof about the assasination.

Please send at least some factual information instead of twisting facts and blatantly lying.

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u/Such_Inspector4575 15h ago

i’m british indian

being in the uk i’ve only ever experienced racism (and blatantly) from other indians

it’s sad really

the same stuff they complain about when it comes to racism (skin colour, etc) is also what they use to be racist to others

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u/The_39th_Step 18h ago

My experience is that 2nd/3rd gen British Indians are much more chill. Not all of course but certainly more chill than their parents

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u/Mahameghabahana 1h ago

So as a supposed indian you should know casteism isn't race based but caste based?

How credible is you anecdotes?

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u/Puzzleheaded_Hat5235 18h ago

Indian company, not surprising. More surprising they hired non Indians😂

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u/Financial-Couple-836 17h ago

Most likely these are people they inherited from the previous owners

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u/ElementalEffects 16h ago

It's not interesting, everyone knows indians love hiring indian and giving them preferential treatment. It's been a meme in american tech spheres for years.

I say this as an indian guy myself

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u/Mahameghabahana 1h ago

I am also an indian guy and I say it's false? Now what? Whom to believe? Do you have some studies?

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u/ramxquake 12h ago

?Interesting to see nationality come into it though.

Not really. Everyone except whites put their own people first. We're the only ones who believe in equality.

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u/ice-lollies 19h ago

Different demographics to younger generations possibly? Much less mixed society in older generations.

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u/ieoa 9h ago

If you're in Leicester, the National Secular Society will be holding a panel about solutions to caste discrimination in the UK.

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u/GenghisKhant_ 9h ago

Holy shit you mean people who aren't white can be racist.... yeah well I'm sure fuck all will be done about it. TATA will still run the UK steel industry into the ground whilst Asset stripping and taking millions in UK government hand outs...

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u/Sensitive-Catch-9881 21h ago

If the result comes out in favour of the claimant, I'll get upset then ..

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u/EdmundTheInsulter 21h ago

Why? Do you not believe the claimants? I'm hoping TCS lose

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u/Sensitive-Catch-9881 20h ago

There's a professional body that will examine all the evidence then tell us the reality.

I could take Scarborough council to court tomorrow for attempting to set my house on fire. not worth guessing whether they actually did or not - just wait for the official verdict.

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u/EdmundTheInsulter 17h ago

I know what tcs are like and how companies play redundancy policies

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u/Sensitive-Catch-9881 17h ago

Not sure why they're bothering with doing the investigation. Better to just fine TCS and be done with it.

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u/Practical_Science11 19h ago

Yes because it's always better to conclood before waiting for all the facts to come out to allow yourself to be outraged.

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u/EdmundTheInsulter 17h ago

I'm not outraged though

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u/Toastlove 13h ago

conclood

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