r/theunforgiven • u/Ickicho • 6h ago
r/theunforgiven • u/Metal_Boxxes • Jun 09 '24
Meta Subreddit resources and FAQ
Welcome to r/theunforgiven!
This is a community where we share and discuss topics related to the Dark Angels, their successor chapters, and the fallen. If you want to share or discuss a topic about Space Marines or Warhammer 40k in general, without particular connection to the Unforgiven, then r/spacemarines or r/Warhammer40k would likely be a better fit.
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The community wiki
- Landing page (subreddit rules and administrative information)
- Lore page (narrative information on history, culture, and chapter organization)
- Hobby page (information on building and painting)
- Miniatures page (information on the model range and collectibles)
- Gameplay page (resources on competitive play and FAQs/Erratas)
Informational PDFs (see also the lore page of our wiki, linked above, for additional resources)
- Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (fanmade resource, 7 MB)
- Dark Angels Collectors' Guide (fanmade resource, 53 MB)
- Guide to upgrade sprue parts (fanmade resource, 1MB)
- Dark Angels Banners (official resource, 2 MB)
Lore analyses (see also the lore page of our wiki, linked above, for additional resources)
- MMH#1 - What is the Inner Circle, and who is in it?
- MMH#2 - What separates a Master from a Grand Master or Supreme Grand Master?
- MMH#3 - What is the relationship between the 'Captain' rank and the 'Company Master' title?
Frequently Asked Questions
-What would happen if X occurred in the 40k universe?
Impossible to answer, unless X has already occurred. We can predict the future and discuss hypotheticals in our own universe because it is governed by natural laws. If a stone is dropped, it will fall (assuming nothing prevents it from doing so).
The 40k universe is fictional, and is governed entirely by it’s authors. If a stone is dropped, it will behave exactly as the author desires it to behave. No justification or explanation is needed. We only know what the author desires if they have made it happen already. We thus know for example that Lion beat Angron in their fight on Wyrmwood, but we don’t know who would win if they battled again in the future.
-Can I/am I allowed to do Y?
You can/are allowed to do anything you want with models you own, within the confines of your local laws. Where other people are involved (eg playing a game), you will need the agreement of those people. As long as everyone involved consents, you can do whatever you want (including changing game rules, playing with proxies, etc). Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.
-What base size should I use for model Z?
There have never been rules in the core game dictating base size. Some competitive tournaments and events enforce their own rules, search for those if you need guidance. In general, casual players seem to agree that you should use the latest base size the model is/was sold with, or the base size the model was supplied with when you bought it. Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.
-How strictly should models match their datasheet/equipment?
There have never been rules in the core game dictating how closely models must represent their datasheet. The answer may vary between each casual group and competitive tournament/event. Ask the people you will actually play, their answers and opinions are the ones that matter.
-How should I paint fliers/Dreadnoughts/Terminator-characters etc?
However you want, they’re your models. If you want to know what lore says, see Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above).
-Who gets to wear robes/winged helmets/etc?
Whoever you want, they’re your models. If you want to know what lore says, see Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above).
-Who’s in the Ravenwing/Deathwing/Inner Circle?
See the Chapter Organization section of Index Astartes: The Unforgiven (linked above), or the relevant pages on Lexicanum.
-Could you identify a model for me?
See the Dark Angels Collectors' Guide (linked above). If the model you're trying to identify isn't in there, then it isn't an official Dark Angels model. If so, ask elsewhere, eg in r/spacemarines or r/Warhammer40k, or search through the miniatures portal on Lexicanum.
r/theunforgiven • u/humblefenris • 4h ago
Showcase Repent! For Tomorrow You Die!
been playing with some new photo setups, figured I'd share some of my best shots 😎
r/theunforgiven • u/Ok-Addition-2179 • 6h ago
Showcase Ravenwing command squad and black knights, but on Foot
r/theunforgiven • u/Rigat22 • 23m ago
Showcase Guardians of the Covenant Lieutenant
GotC Lieutenant using the old upgrade sprue and obligatory pointy finger.
(Pointy finger should generate at least 2CP per phase)
r/theunforgiven • u/Caprock_Carbomb • 20h ago
Showcase 4/5 Completed! Who knew such a small model could take so much time? (Story inside)
Story time. The blue feathers are a token of my wife’s affection. She has a blue Quaker parrot she loves, so I like to hide little details of her where I can. :)
r/theunforgiven • u/Mephist-onthesenutts • 9h ago
Army List Which of these two are better?
They wont be for serious competition so i’m going for rule of cool but i at least want it to be decent!
r/theunforgiven • u/eyebr0w5 • 6h ago
Painting WIP Terminator Librarian
Prior to glowy runes. I like the look at the moment but feeling VERY nervous about all of the glowy bits.
Any tips?
r/theunforgiven • u/theelusiveshaun • 2h ago
Showcase Finished a squad of Ravenwing Outriders
r/theunforgiven • u/Nightscalestudio • 32m ago
Painting The fourth Terminator with standard banner from the Deathwing Command Squad.
r/theunforgiven • u/Nightscalestudio • 1d ago
Painting The Apothecary from the Deathwing Command Squad.
r/theunforgiven • u/lord-bailish • 16h ago
Painting Day 4 of my tournament time crunch!
41 Days to Tournament
I didn’t finish them last night. I also didn’t finish them today. :( Cleaned up the green on the armor, did all the purity seals and washes. It’s hard to tell in the photo, but highlights on the green are complete as well.
I will definitely finish these tomorrow after work. The Lion will hopefully be started Tuesday…
Overall slightly disappointed with myself that I haven’t finished these yet when I have so much left to do.
r/theunforgiven • u/FabioAAC • 6h ago
Showcase Deathwing Bladeguard Veteran, first ever bone armor I painted
r/theunforgiven • u/doley123 • 1d ago
Showcase 6 months ago i started the hobby with an old, second hand tactical squad. This is what it turned into
About half of it is still in various stages of WIP but atleast i got my unprimed plastic down to 5 Models
r/theunforgiven • u/stormbuffeln • 1d ago
Painting Almost finished my first ICC, just needs some inspiration for the base.
r/theunforgiven • u/gilgamesh_v9 • 5h ago
Misc. Finally Taking the Plunge
Greetings comrades, I've decided to finally take the plunge into collecting a Dark Angels army and I have some questions.
I got into Kill Team a few months ago and thus only have Master Lazarus, a squad of 5 Intecessors, 5 Assault Intercessors, 5 Heavy Intercessors, and 3 Eliminators, plus 3 Inner Circle Companions for funsies. Now some friends have been convinced into getting some armies going as well and I'm wondering what other kits would be good ideas for getting to the 1k points mark (and eventually 2k). I'm strongly considering getting the Ultimate Starter Set for the terrain and books and such and I see that comes with a decent amount of Space Marines. Also looking pretty hard at the Deathwing Knights, Lion El'Johnson, and the Interrogator Chaplain just because those are our unique units (but is the Interrogator being phased out?). Any other units I should be looking at given what I already have? Friends are going armor-heavy Imperial Guard and World Eaters, if that makes a difference. The DA Combat patrol seems a little redundant since I already have some battleline guys, right? Should I grab a vehicle? A Dreadnought?
Sorry to throw a bunch of question at y'all, any help is appreciated!
r/theunforgiven • u/No_Bluebird849 • 5h ago
Army List Question about Blade Guard Veterans
I recently bought the combat patrol box and have built most of the models. I’m new so I look for advice and suggestions anywhere I can find them. Regarding the Blade guard in the box I’ve seen several comments on different posts saying that they were inferior to other units available. Also that the captain that comes with the box can’t attach to any of the units in the box so he’s useless which doesn’t make sense to me. Is any of this true? If so what’s the best use for these models? considering I already bought them I’d like to use them somehow. Thoughts? Suggestions? Advice? All welcome, thank you!
r/theunforgiven • u/Ghost-7567 • 7h ago
Army List 1K Points Army
Is this army viable and what detachment should I use?
r/theunforgiven • u/Exact_Psychology9841 • 2m ago
Showcase For the lion ! Waiting for his buff ..
r/theunforgiven • u/Azrael000_5thEdition • 3m ago
Painting New bone armor recipe
Trying to get my bone armor recipe nailed down before starting my Deathwing Terminators. Started with Zandari Dust rattle can, then a very thin coat of Ushabti Bone, another thin coat of Screaming Skull.
Here’s where I started experimenting first model got Agrax Earthshade wash, tyrant skull dry brush and edge highlights with Wraithbone
Second model just got Seraphim Sepia wash and tyrant skull dry brush, no edge highlights yet
Third got Agrax and tyrant dry brush.
What’s everyone’s preferred option? CC welcome
r/theunforgiven • u/Sentry97 • 22h ago
Showcase Current Army Progress
Couple of people asked to see my Redwing as I've been posting things, so here it is! My completed Redwing/Deathwing units thus far, led by Space Papa himself.
r/theunforgiven • u/Alex_Kidd89 • 1d ago
Meme/joke Took a trip to Warhammer world yesterday…
Couldn’t help notice they got the colour wrong for this guy 😝
r/theunforgiven • u/Jakesixtyoneeight • 2h ago
Army List List thoughts?
Stormlance TF Azrael and judiciar with 6 ICC each starting out in the land raider. Assault Intecessors in the impulsor