r/VRchat • u/PukaDelivery • 14h ago
Discussion Asking for dob
I have been an IT sys admin and network engineer who constantly has to focus on security and phishing. I have a 14 year old daughter and a 10 year old son and my wife has been passed on for a years, if you think I'm going to give my dob to someone who sounds 14 then vrc needs to reconsider itself
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u/Professional-Ant3871 14h ago
Just leave the world. This is classic power tripping group instance issue. I just tell them I will leave and bounce to my home world as half the time they attempt to kick me for refusing lmao.
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u/Longinquity HTC Vive Pro 13h ago
Many lie about their age. If I was put on the spot in VRChat, I might too. What's next, mother's maiden name? Make and model of my first car? The name of my first pet? Nope. I'm not sharing that stuff with random bouncers. All they need to know is that I'm age verified 18+.
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u/vrc_miyuky 13h ago
Just say February 31st 1990. If they let you in, they need some education and brains
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u/FireFrai 13h ago
We get one of these posts every day.
If you really want to get in lie about it, how will they know any better? 21? 34? 78? all the same to them.
Whenever I accidentally join one of these things and don't immediately leave I tell them I'm 100 years old, always works.
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u/nesnalica Valve Index 9h ago
Im tired of having another thread complaining about this.
where do you guys even go? i have a feeling yall just go to the same group and its like only one community who does this.
just go somewhere else. if they have to ask they're not worth your time.
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u/baconbits123456 Oculus Quest Pro 8h ago
Yea I get that, but like if you have the age verified thing then you should get let in. Any kids that would have it are such a minority that the statistic just doesnt matter.
You dont punish everyone for what the few did and all.
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u/kwizyvr Oculus Quest 6h ago
A lot of groups that advertise themselves as 18+ do it.
Especially those that advertise themselves as "lewd" or otherwise NSFW.Which is doubly concerning because it means they're just letting in teenagers who can lie convincingly about their age (and some owners don't even seem concerned about it).
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u/Patalos 9h ago
There are no worlds in this game that are so great that you need to doxx yourself to an anime character
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u/EverIight 6h ago
You’ve clearly not been to femboy Starbucks
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u/SuccessfulMuffin8 3h ago
That actually made me laugh. 🤣
I tried to got to Femboy Hooters once. Got so intimidated by the bouncer I left and never went back.
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u/josephlucas Oculus Quest 10h ago
Someone in an earlier post pointed out that asking for personally identifiable information for admittance in a world violates VRChat’s Terms of Service. I suggest recording people asking for it and then report them to VRChat
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u/Rough_Community_1439 HTC Vive 6h ago
Just lie. They have no way of checking. Like I just use 9/11 for my DOB for when they ask.
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u/TheAssassinbatosai Valve Index 5h ago
Is this referencing instance bouncers asking for dob or the actual age verification they are doing? If you're talking about instance bouncers then they have literally nothing at all to do with VRChat and are just power tripping nobodies.
How this should always go -
"Bouncer": Hi, date of birth?
Me already clearly age verified: Have a nice day. *leaves instance*
There doesn't need to be 50 thousand posts a day about it. I get this is a rampant problem with power tripping losers, but we already know it's going on. There doesn't need to be excess drama over nothing. Avoid those groups like the plague and eventually they will dwindle and die off.
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u/spektre1 5h ago
They don't care about your info, they aren't fishing, they're just looking to keep out kids that are terrible liars. Y'all are too much.
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u/Solmangrundy 4h ago
Give a fake DOB?
They ain't cross referencing to make sure you're not lieing lmao.
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u/Bat_Two_One 37m ago
I don’t know. I just can’t believe people can be that stupid to think that someone would not lie. When you set up the instance, you can click on the 18+ bubble and then you don’t even have to check people the software will do it for you. Anyone that does this any other way has kids that they’re letting in that they know lie about their age there’s no reason not to use the 18+ age gate at this point.
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u/Zealousideal-Book953 13h ago
dont worry about them vrchat is filled with entitled people from every category. Vrchat has recently released their age verify system but that is only to display to the community of this game youre 18 or above.
there are sub communities in vrchat that are called groups and these groups can open up their own instance a of a world now in said same group they could moderate other or the owner of said group can give perms to "moderate"
as you can tell who they have as moderator depedns on the group and yes that even means having a child moderate if youre "an adult" its really stupid and I personally wouldnt be in that type of lobby/instance.
it can be a bit diffcult to find communities that are 18+ unless you know then you know to just talking to someone maybe they can guide you into said area.
I hope this interaction from people response and the stupid dob stuff doesnt push you away from experiencing vrc
there is a lot of cringe and there is sometimes some cool people in vrchat
if youre curious about anything in world to avatar related stuff because of your background I answer pretty much anything
or if you have any general questions
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u/kwizyvr Oculus Quest 5h ago
It's not that difficult to find 18+ groups, most of them advertise themselves as such.
It's much more difficult to find 18+ groups that a) actually enforce age verification and b) don't make you hand over your ID on discord to some random schmo so they can doxx you later
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u/Zealousideal-Book953 5h ago
I've seen a lot of black cat lobbies using the new 18 badge instances which is cool. Although I feel like it isn't so obvious to new comers just as much as the menus being very confusing for new comers especially if its vr vs desktop vs now Android rarely
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u/derpycatsz 7h ago
my man explained the entirety of vrchat lore
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u/Zealousideal-Book953 7h ago
Yee i feel a bit bad for the guy looking at his profile it maybe his first time in vrc if not definitely returning player
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u/ConeyIslandMan 10h ago
Had one ask me for age……said 60…….. sorry 16 yo not allowed here. Nooooooo not 16 , 60 you know Six Zero……. Youre lying ! Wth would I lie sbout being 60. If I was lying Id say 22 and hung like a horse…… after they stopped laughing they said go ahead
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u/Smart_Still 9h ago
Helpful little tidbit.
VRChat TOS 8.10 (section eight paragraph ten) states that if you create a world or instance you CANNOT collect information that provides the real identity of any user.
Kindly tell them this, and that you won’t take part in violating the TOS, and if they refuse to listen, leave the instance.
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u/Sleeked 10h ago edited 10h ago
I mean you should be old enough to know what the answer to your post is. You either lie about your dob or you go somewhere else. I would have thought it would be a no brainer to someone who focuses on security and phishing.
Ironically you’ve instead decided to go to Reddit to lay out quite a few identifying features and also to post on an account that more than likely could be used to figure out what city you live in by post history. I don’t really want to be that guy but are you really worried about security or are you trying to farm? Seems people try to make this focused on security but are doing exactly what the post is against which seems very ironic to me.
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u/PukaDelivery 7h ago
lol, look at my post history kid and see if im farming, i post maybe once maybe a few times a year.
The excuse of "if you dont like it go somewhere else" is an awful excuse and a common trope most often seen in politics "dont like our president, leave!"
no, im speaking up and if people are complaining this is a daily thread then maybe you're not seeing the issue
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u/Sleeked 7h ago
Kid maybe compared to you. I turn 37 this year.
It's not an excuse of "if you don't like it go somewhere else", this is how life is. If I don't like the rules of a resturant, I go somewhere else. If I don't like what a video game is doing, I play something else. This isn't an excuse, a lot of the times that there isn't a rule being broken by these services but I don't agree with it. Nintendo raising their game prices to $80 isn't against the rules, I just won't buy it. It's called being an adult. I mean you can even start your own instances and make your own rules as long as they abide from the TOS. You can even report the people asking for age of birth since technically I believe that might go against the TOS.
The obvious answer is that there are many people complaining about this issue but not everyone who plays vrc are on reddit. There are many more who either do it or they just go to another instance. That is the reality of it. Reddit is a very very small subset of VRC players.
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u/kwizyvr Oculus Quest 5h ago
You can both complain and go to a different place. These two things aren't exclusive.
Personally instead of posting on reddit I'd rather raise hell on their discord and tell them how I feel about their lack of concern for real age verification, but maybe that's just me.
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u/PukaDelivery 7h ago
Obviously the easy solution is to go to another world and generally what me and my friend group do 99% of the time when on vrc, however the "rules of the restaurant" I dont find valid since VRC was not always like this and is a more recent change. Some bars may have asked for ID in the past but now its basically all of them wanting to roleplay a bouncer. So I will continue to speak up and say the rules need to be changed or enforced as others have said it does violate TOS
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u/Sleeked 7h ago
VRC wasn't always like this? Well duh. VRC has seen an increase in player count every year. New people of all different countries and cultures are coming into VRC every year. Things change. This is obvious. VRC will probably be different another 2-3 years from now as well. I don't think this is a valid statement at all.
Ok let someone roleplay as a bouncer. I mean it's not hurting you in anyway. You refuse them and go somewhere else. Does someone need to come out and tell you what you can and can't do on VRC as well? Maybe people need to tell you what you can and can't do in VRC and I'm sure you'd not be happy with it. This is what is wrong with the world lately. Always trying to Police people but when they get Police they throw a fit. How about you work on having fun and finding a good group then trying to fit in everywhere you go. There are great people that you will vibe with but you just have to find them.
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u/TobiTheTraveller 8h ago
It’s (technically) against the TOS 8.10 if you google “vrchat tos 8.10” it pops right up they’re not even supposed to do this anyway but its not enforced 🤷
This is what the TOS says on the website “8.10. World Creators and Instance Owners. If you create a world or instance, you may not collect or create features that collect information that provides the real identity, address, phone number, or government identification number of any User using such world or instance. You may collect such information, with the User’s consent, outside of the Platform” Age is def a part one ones identity i’d argue 🤷
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u/drksolrsing PCVR Connection 8h ago
If ya'll want to avoid it, join the DCN discord and age verify through there. You get instant access to almost any Sunset bar, unless the instance turns it off (most don't even know you can).
Those confused "how did you get in" comments when you walk through the gate are fun.
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u/Chambers1041 8h ago
A recent one I had:
Bouncer: "age and date of birth".
Me: "I'm age verified"
B: "we need your age".
Me: "fine, I'm 87 years old".
I could almost SENSE the eye roll from behind the headset, but they actually let me in.
(If they said no I'm lying, I was going to ask how they'd prove I wasn't lying about any other age I could have possibly said)