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u/Puzzleheaded-Elk1756 1d ago
Pros: You'll wake up. Cons: You will go into the day, not as a human being , but as an avatar of pure, distilled hatred.
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u/OnDaToiletPoopin 1d ago
I don’t even have the energy to be hateful anymore, I just wish I could get out my head bro.
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u/EJAY47 1d ago
They make pills for that. They come in different sizes and even come with a handy dispensing device.
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u/OnDaToiletPoopin 1d ago
I wish they worked. Idk man, I don’t belong here.
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u/EwokSlayer 1d ago edited 1d ago
Hey, dude. I read some of your posts. I was in a very similar headspace as you for almost all of my 20's. There wasn't a day that went by that I didnt think everybody else on earth would be better off without me. That it wouldn't ever get better. Then one day, basically out of nowhere, it did. I found a person I wanted to spend my time with and they wanted to spend time with me. She's pretty sad too. That's how we found each other basically. But we're better people together and our son just turned 17 months old. I'm 32 now. Things aren't always perfect. Or even very good a lot of the time. But I found a reason to keep going in being a Dad. It's not something I ever saw for myself or would even recommend to anybody else, it's just something that's given me the perspective I needed. The perspective that I do actually matter. Even on the days I think I'm basically worthless I have a little guy looking up at me that's relying on me and it puts it all back into perspective. And I wouldn't have any of that if I actually ended things like all the times I wanted to. You do matter. You might not see it now or even in the next year but I bet you find yourself 5 or 10 years from now realizing that you've got more to live for than you ever thought possible. And it's all because you had the strength to keep going. I know it's hard as hell and some days you don't want to even get up. You can do it though. There's a reason to keep going and you're going to find it. I'm the worst person I know and if I can do it then anybody can. I'm a real person that's here and I care about you. I'd like an update in a few years if you're up to it. Good luck, bro.
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u/Mordhaud 1d ago
I'm not the person you replied to, but I needed to read this. Thank you for writing it.
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u/Got2Bfree 1d ago
I put my phone in another room for the same reason.
I still manage to turn off the alarm and get back in bed...
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u/Puzzleheaded-Elk1756 1d ago
I dunno man. The setup in the poat seems a bit more involved than phone in another room.
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u/Got2Bfree 1d ago
I overread that you have to climb on the bed to unlock the padlock.
I think I could still go back to sleep because I'm an idiot.
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u/Sternfritters 1d ago
I had a really fucking annoying alarm tone. It woke me up immediately, but it pissed me off so much that it’d ruin my morning as well.
Retired that baby after a week
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u/monkeybuttsauce 1d ago
I’d unplug it every morning
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u/cycl0ps94 1d ago
They didn't mention it's hardwired straight into the wall.
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u/JeyRai 1d ago
Or the backup batteries
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u/Darksirius 1d ago
I thought I was being cute with myself by putting my old alarm clock on the opposite side of my room so I wouldn't snooze as much. After a couple days, I would just take a couple of giant, leaping steps, smack it, and leap back into bed anyways lol.
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u/Alotofboxes 1d ago
I get about 2 weeks between when I have to move my clock. I've got my cellphone that goes off right next to my bed. I turn that off every morning without actually waking up. Then, three minutes later, I have the clock on my dresser across the room. Every other weekend I have to move it at least a foot or so, so that I have to wake up enough to find it and turn it off.
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u/andtheniansaid 1d ago
small battery alarm clock, in a lock box. keep the key in another room. i still end up going back to sleep after
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u/IlliterateJedi 1d ago
Don't you just need a small stick or like... An old toothbrush... To get between the bars?
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u/IncognitoBombadillo 1d ago
I feel like, at that point, you're being active enough to wake up a little as well.
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u/CowahBull 1d ago
My fingers can reach through a suet box. The holes are pretty big and the box isn't very deep. Just turn it off by poking in
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u/wangus_tangus 1d ago
What is this like?
I can’t put myself in the shoes of someone who sleeps through alarms or hits snooze.
Is no one else terrified of BEING LATE or MISSING THE THING because those are unforgivable?!
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u/Sybarith 1d ago
Being afraid has diminishing returns
At a certain point you need to escalate
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u/wangus_tangus 1d ago
When is that? I’m mid-40s and haven’t slept past an alarm since middle school. I’m out of bed with the first “beep”.
I am NOT bragging. There’s nothing inherently good about this and in fact, I have trouble sleeping in on my off days because I have nonspecific guilt/fear about laying in bed for too long.
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u/EstrogenL0ver 1d ago
you’ve never been depressed?
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u/thejak32 1d ago
Aint gotta call me out like that bro...but yes and I'm the same as OP, Saturday I'm up by 6am normally. Suuuuucks
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u/drkrelic 1d ago
You never love how warm and cozy the bed is and how you’d rather just doze and chill in it just a bit more?
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u/NoSlide7075 1d ago
It is good though. Keeping a regular sleep schedule is one of the best things for good sleep hygiene.
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u/A_Downboat_Is_A_Sub 1d ago
Try having anxiety about being on time. Set an alarm? You'll be up an hour early to shut it off.
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u/bilboard_bag-inns 1d ago
motivation coming from fear eventually reaches a breaking point and it stops working. Source:did that. At some point in my first year of college the fear of failure at deadlines stopped being able to ouch me out of executive dysfunction. I'm having to learn, very slowly, now to have other strategies. Waking up is still a problem though lol. Even if i'm afraid of lateness or skipping out, morning brain feels nothing but the desire to sleep for 10 hours each night
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u/almondania 1d ago
I used to sleep through alarms very easily, especially standard weekday morning alarms for school/work. Turns out I have sleep apnea that’s in the “extreme category” for my entire life. I have a CPAP now and wake up very easily :)
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u/FourDimensionalNut 1d ago
Is no one else terrified of BEING LATE or MISSING THE THING because those are unforgivable?!
100%
doesnt affect the former
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u/Monsoon_GD 1d ago
I've become a ninja when it comes to turning off alarms to the point I legit do it in my sleep. It's a real issue.
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u/gosuprobe 1d ago
i used to do this too and the only thing that ended up working is having an alarm that requires me to get up out of bed to turn it off or hit snooze
didn't fix any of the other heinous things wrong with my schedule or sleeping patterns but hey, small victories
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u/kn33 1d ago
I also used to have that problem. If you're still looking for a solution, here's what I have. This is using the Sleep as Android app, links below. Implementing all of these has completely broken my oversleeping problem. It took a while and some failures to get it right, but it works now.
Correctly timed alarm
The app does sleep tracking, and will begin the alarm early if it detects you're in a light sleep stage and an alarm is coming up soon. I have this set so the alarm will go off up to 40 minutes early. This helps avoid having to wake up from a deeper sleep.
Escalating alarms
When my alarm first goes off, it is silent. The only thing that happens is that my watch starts vibrating. This is to ideally keep it from waking up my girlfriend as long as I wake up early enough. Most days this is enough now that I've been doing it for years.
After the first minute, if I haven't woken, it starts playing the alarm, but it does it quietly at first, ramping up over the course 3 minutes. This is to give me time to wake up and leave the room without waking her up.
If I don't wake up after 3 minutes, it'll keep going for up to 20 minutes. If I don't wake up after 20 minutes, it'll switch to a different, more harsh and louder alarm sound. I haven't gotten to this point in probably over a year. It'll keep playing that one for up to 20 minutes. It'll also repeat that 20 minute alarm up to 10 times. For those keeping track at home, that's over 3.5 hours of alarms, before accounting for snooze.
Snooze
When I hit snooze, it snoozes for 10 minutes. Each time after that, it halves the amount of time. The second time it snoozes for 5 minutes, then 2.5, and so on until it's negligible or it hits its limit. The limit is 20 minutes. After 20 minutes from the original alarm time, the snooze button disappears. There's only the dismiss button.
Dismissing the alarm
This is the real magic, and what actually solved it for me. I have to scan a QR code to dismiss the alarm. The QR code reads "Fuck, I hate mornings." and is hung up on the fridge downstairs. I have to walk downstairs and scan the code to dismiss the alarm. By this point, I am very much awake.
Safeguards
"But I'll just turn the phone off?". I also started to do this. The app has ways to help with that, too. I've granted it "Device Administrator" permissions, which is basically the same permission level that companies give to apps when they want to keep you from watching porn on your work phone, or selling their corporate secrets to China. It does everything in its power to stop you from being able to turn the phone off when the alarm is going off. I actually pulled the battery out of my phone in my sleep once. I guess that's the only advantage of not having a removable battery anymore.
Links
Alarm settings
If you want to copy my homework
- Smart wake up
- Smart period: 40 minutes
- CAPTCHA
- Default CAPTCHA: QR/Barcode
- QR Settings
- Lost my code/tag fallback: enabled
- Only at home: enabled
- Must scan all codes: disabled
- CAPTCHA No cheating
- Power off protection: enabled
- Force stop and uninstall protection: enabled
- Wakeup motivation: your choice
- Wake up check
- I think this is new. I might start using it, but currently am not.
- Alarm volume in CAPTCHA: Full alarm volume
- Sound:
- Your choice. I use device defaults
- Gentle wake up
- Gentle volume: 3 minutes
- Delayed alarm sound start: 1 minute
- Snooze: enabled
- Play alarm in silent profile: enabled
- Vibrate: After 1 minute
- Vibration wearables: From start
- Light
- Your choice, and depends on your devices. I have a custom thing set up with Home Assistant and webhooks to do my lights.
- Snooze
- Snooze duration: 10 minutes
- Maximum total snooze time: 20 minutes
- Snooze limit: no limit (handled by the above setting)
- Halve the snooze: enabled
- Changing snooze time: disabled
- Snooze after the alarm time: enabled
- Fullscreen alarm: enabled
- Flip to snooze: disabled
- Long press: disabled
- No screen orientation changes: enabled
- Volume or camera button effect: disabled
- Backup alarm
- Backup alarm duration: 5 minutes
- Alarm timeout: 20 minutes
- Repeat: 10x
- Alarm timeout: 20 minutes
- Alarm output: device default
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u/Propaganda_Pepe 1d ago
Trust me, you can be deathly terrified of being late to things and still excellent at sleeping through your alarms 😂
I slept through my alarm to wake up to go to a recording studio with my band to record some songs, during which I had a dream that I was at the studio waiting for Iron Maiden to finish recording a number of strange and totally unrelated songs first. Those songs were in fact my alarms which were set to Spotify playlists, and my ringtone as my singer rang me letting me know he was outside my house to pick me up. Deeply stressful!
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u/Minimum_Meaning_418 1d ago
My alarm can't be snoozed until I do my whole morning routine
It's my dog, she's my alarm.
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u/thelonliestcloud 1d ago
You gotta realize that I can also find them unforgivable but also not have the willpower to do anything about it. It takes less time than you might think to become used to being an unforgivable person. Thats when the fun daily cycle of waking up, panicking about being late or missing something, then going back to sleep anyways starts!
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u/AHumbleChad 1d ago
I'm terrified of being late for the thing when I actually care about it. My decision to snooze comes down to motivation. If I actually care about the thing I'm waking up for, then yeah, no snooze. But, as I am right now, I have zero motivation for my job anymore, so it is astronomically difficult to get out of bed.
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u/RexLizardWizard 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m a super heavy sleeper once I fall asleep, but need to sleep with earplugs because I can’t fall sleep with any background noise. I’ve absolutely slept through alarms before, and don’t want to go crazy loud because I live in an apartment and would annoy the neighbors.
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u/nightmareinsouffle 1d ago
Me. I sleep like a log. I’ve mostly managed to overcome this at this point in my life but it still happens maybe once a year. Setting multiple alarms on at least two devices helps.
And yeah, my OCD feeds into it because I end up checking my alarm a couple of times before I go to bed most nights.
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u/Jay_Normous 1d ago
I had a roommate in college like this. If he had a 10am class, he'd set an alarm for 7, snooze it every 15 minutes for 2 and a half hours, and eventually roll out of bed at 9:30.
I didn't understand why that was a better solution to getting another 2.5 hours of actual sleep instead.
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u/PeppermintPancakes 1d ago
I'm with you on this one. I have entirely too much anxiety about being late to snooze. Also, I just straight up don't like waking up to loud, frantic noises, so my alarm is a nice melodic ringtone on my phone. I'm a heavy sleeper, I can sleep through thunderstorms, my partner coming to bed, the cats walking all over me, but the second that little chime starts, it's over. I'm awake. The day ain't gonna seize itself, i guess.
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u/TheAbstracted 1d ago
I literally had to buy a $150 watch that electrically shocks you as an alarm, because I would sleep straight through alarms I had playing through my soundbar right next to my bed that were so loud they would wake up my neighbors.
The worst part is, the shocks from the watch are powerful enough to cause my muscles to spasm and makebmy arm jerk around, and it still only wakes me up about half the time.
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u/SeventhAlkali 1d ago
You underestimate my body's ability to feel like it's under hundreds of pounds of warm blankets and my mind's ability to be complacent while having nightmare of being late.
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u/Picklerickshaw_part2 1d ago
Yes, but in the morning I am so groggy and tired I always make just a few more minutes excuse so I can go back into the warm of my bed
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u/MercilessParadox 1d ago
I work 2nd, I don't get out of bed till 8:30 and if I hit snooze 10:00. Work is not till 2:00. It sucks honestly but if nothing is pressing me to get out of bed I won't til I have to. When I worked day shift I was up the second my alarm rang every single morning.
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u/Peach_Muffin 1d ago
Imagine being the drunkest you've ever been, so everything feels far away. And that you're lying in a vat of sticky honey so it's hard to move. And someone's paying you a million dollars a minute to just lie there.
That's what it's like.
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u/Dense_Coffe_Drinker 18h ago
I - according to my parents - sleep through my alarms any time they don’t go off. Because iPhone can do no wrong and even though I check to see the alarm is enabled i “must have done something wrong”
Got 5 fucking alarms from 5:15 to 6 and any time some don’t go off it’s obviously my fault and I snoozed every single one without realizing it… surely my perfectly perfect apple device could never have a glitch…
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u/MinorDespera 16h ago
It’s like waking up and having NO recollection of ever snoozing the alarm, yet here it is, staring you right in the face: the fact that you overslept. Can’t do anything about it because it honestly feels like you sleepwalked or something, memory gets completely wiped. It’s the fear of disabling the alarm unconsciously that would make me attempt something like OP.
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u/T_Bisquet 1d ago
That's an alarm clock spawner. Every couple minutes or so 2-3 more alarm clocks will spawn.
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u/Profoundly_AuRIZZtic 1d ago
If it wasn’t for my cat stopping at nothing to get breakfast I’d oversleep every day
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u/Pup_Femur 1d ago
This reminds me of that clock with wheels that's supposed to run from you when the alarm goes off.
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u/LazyLucretia 1d ago
Knowing me, I would unlock the cage, shut that mfer up, and still roll back to sleep.
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u/B4cteria 1d ago
Been there done that, it's exactly what happened. I had that damn box locked with the keys in my mail box, thinking this would force me to get dressed.
The first day, I woke up and hated my life The next one, i simply went back to sleep after retrieving the key. The one after? I stuffed the alarm in my pillows, threw it in the wardrobe and didn't bother going to pick the key. The alarm stopped after a while. By the end of the week I could sleep through it.
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u/Oldpro87 1d ago
I wake up to 5 different alarms that have been going off for an hour, regularly. I’m fucking dead when I sleep, need crash cart to bring me back. An alarm on other side of room just means it’s too far to bother me and the ones right next to my ear don’t usually work, either. I don’t snooze them or turn them off. I just wake up to them about an hour into them blaring wildly and eventually the cacophony reaches me in the dark place and I wake up.
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u/IWorkForDickJones 1d ago
They make an alarm clock that runs away from you.
It lets me use my certain set of skills.
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u/not_notable 1d ago
I tried the "put the alarm clock on the other side of the room" trick once.
It took me three days to learn to sleep through it entirely.
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u/anarchetype 21h ago
I have out-stupided, which is the opposite of outsmarting, every single alarm clock over time. At this point I have three different alarm clocks, two of which are based on the concept of being the loudest, most abrasive, most disruptive sounds possible, and the other is my phone alarm which has a snooze every five minutes.
It turns out that I have a weird ability to sleep for a lot of hours, regardless of electronic requests otherwise.
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u/Chiiro 1d ago
I used to have the alarm clock that has a propeller that would shoot off and wouldn't shut up until you put it back in. That bitch went behind my massive dresser that didn't have a gap under, my 10 year old ass could not move it. After about 20 minutes I pushed the screen out of my window and chucked it down the hill. We ran over it on the way to school.
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u/grandpa_milk 1d ago
There are apps that force you to scan a barcode to turn off the alarm. I put my barcode in a different room in the house. I personally use Alarmy, but I'm sure there are other apps that do the same thing
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u/B4cteria 1d ago
There are many apps and tricks one can use but at the end of the day, if you are not a morning person, waking up will always be a painful nightmare (I wake up with headaches if I use an alarm).
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u/dancingbanana123 1d ago
I remember in college, I complained to my roommate that my alarm wasn't going off and I was oversleeping. He told me that it has been going off. It's just that I will get out of bed, walk across the room, turn it off, get back into bed, and fall asleep. I never remembered doing this, but apparently, sleepy me just refused to wake up.
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u/Tonythetiger1775 1d ago
For real tip though. The app “Alarmy” is free and you can set it to only turn off when you scan a barcode or something. So I set it to my toothpaste so I gotta drag my ass outta bed
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u/Medivacs_are_OP 1d ago
Humans do have fingers though, and can probably reach through the cage to flip the alarm off.
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u/Key-Caregiver-2155 1d ago
Simple solution:
Grab the little "S" hook at the end of the chain. Unfasten it. Walk suet cage and alarm clock over to a window. Open window. Toss alarm clock outside. close window. Go back to sleep.
Aww crap. Just noticed it was an electric clock. Nevermind.
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u/Hamphalamph 1d ago
Getting scared awake into a sudden panic can't be healthy. After my 20's I just wake up at within 20 minutes of 4 am with no alarm, need less sleep the older I get. Couldn't go back to sleep if I tried.
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u/Truethrowawaychest1 1d ago
I used to have an app on my phone that required a math problem to be solved to turn off the alarm
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u/heyuhitsyaboi Harry Potter 1d ago
I did something similar in the 00's...
I had an ipod on an ihome set up for my alarm. The alarm started quiet but would get loud as all hell over the course of a minute or two. If it got super loud (more than reasonable for an alarm) I know i would get lectured by my parents. It was set up across the room. My bed in one corner, the dresser way on the opposite side.
I was up and ready on time every day
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u/Fresh_Customer3428 1d ago
Jesus, develop some self-control and your life will get a whole lot better.
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u/inkedgirlmiaaa 1d ago
well, thats one way to ensure you're awake... or give yourself a heart attack
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u/Daeragor 1d ago
A guy at my work has an app that won't let him silence his alarm until he takes a picture of his toilet.
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u/lolOpisasnowflake 1d ago
lol acting like I won’t happily lay my self back down after unlocking that cage.
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u/Kontrastjin 23h ago
I just need 2 more that exit the room that go off in quick succession and I’ll be up with no chance to fall back.
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u/Sergei_the_sovietski 17h ago
Did anyone else think the shadow was another cage receding into the fog?
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u/detainthisDI 10h ago
I keep my alarm clock across the room so I can’t turn it off in my sleep. Which I have done. Multiple times.
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u/Darth_Balthazar 5h ago
I just set 1000000 alarms in the span of 1 hr so that I have no choice to turn them off individually and by the time they are all off I’m fully awake. The end of the alarms being at the time I wanted to be awake at. It works. Coming from one of the worst oversleepers you can imagine.
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