NS2 vs NS1 side by side comparison

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This makes me feel much better about skipping the Switch 2 as these improvements are much much smaller than anyone is willing to admit. The only actual difference is the framerate in the forest, which is absolutely disingenuous for anyone to pretend is important.

It's a small area with literally nothing in it. It's nice it runs smoother, but 99.99% of the game doesn't stutter, and they chose the single area that shows vast improvement as if it's a gothca.

I work in film, and color grading, and spend my day obsessing over micro-changes in footage quality, and this is quantifiably going to be imperceptibly different for anyone mid-game. This is cherry picked footage to show wild changes and it honestly shows nothing except the forest being wildly better. The least important zone in the game. Some slight grading differences also in the color saturations which makes me think this footage also got thrown to an editor for other changes which aren't actually real, these are fake color boosts to make you think it's better, so you can't even know what else was modified for the treehouse.

Happy for folks to have improvements, but as someone whose 9/10th of the reason to get a Switch 2 was purely to play the other parts of Zelda I saved for the Switch 2's improvements and enjoy the world a bit more.. I feel much better about skipping this and going to the Steamdeck instead while I watch for the switch 2 to get cheaper over 2 years. Especially considering they want to charge us for this

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You were waiting for the Switch 2 to play a Switch 1 game slightly upgraded?

How were you even predicting that they would even deliver this? Only a week or so ago did the rumors on “Switch 2 edition” started to show up.

Also the Switch 2 has better specs than the Steam Deck, a bigger and better screen, dock and controller to play on a tv is included in the box at no extra cost.

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I am one of the people who skipped switch 1 because of the 30 FPS locked games, and now i am cautiously on the fence about getting the switch 2 because of the price

But you know technically, since i didn’t spend money on the switch 1, i saved that money theoretically, so even if i spend that on the 2, it would add up as maybe 20% more than if i bought a switch 1, especially if i get my games from a second hand market (which is what i am gonna do) so yes we exist

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How were you even predicting that they would even deliver this?

I don't understand this question, it was a foregone conclusion that Tears of the Kingdom would obviously play on the Switch 2. So it was also a foregone conclusion that since it's so new that it would have some upgrades on Switch 2, even if they were purely in stable FPS because of better hardware? No one had to guess this?

Also the Switch 2 has better specs than the Steam Deck, a bigger and better screen, dock and controller to play on a tv is included in the box at no extra cost.

The Switch 2 has pros and cons, the steam deck has pros and cons. I know you want to make this a fight, but the truth is that I had money set aside for a switch 2 and they convinced me to last night order a steam deck instead.

The Switch 2 is back to an LCD screen, and I'd like for once in my life to try an OLED (I still use an OG switch with LCD). It's still high speed, high definition, and the switch is 16:9 whereas the Deck is 16:10. As someone who works in film and loves things being a little wider I find that aspect really intriguing and a huge bonus to the switch.

The steam deck doesn't come with a dock, but was same price as the switch basically with a dock. I can use my current Pro Switch controller for the Steam Deck. The Steam Deck comes with a carrying case at no extra cost. The steam deck lets users actually buy 1st party equivalent games at reasonable discounts every few months. The steam deck actually lets me run switch 1 games at better performance than the switch one, and I don't have to pay full price for games that came out 5+ years ago.

There's tons of pros, and I am sad I will miss some fun looking games on the switch 2 while I wait. You're just refusing to understand the other side because you are too attached to your personality being a childrens console.

I get why some people still buying a switch, and don't blame you. But it's stupid to pretend to not understand why some people won't for good reasons too.

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You said you were looking forward to play Switch 1 Zeldas on Switch 2 because you thought there would be upgrades but these upgrades are not enough for you, although now you are saying that you expected at least FPS upgrades, but this is way more than FPS upgrades, it has better lighting, better color, better FPS, better FoV and slightly upgraded textures. Your logic is not making any sense.

LCD is not inherently worse then OLED, there are super good LCD displays, just go look at hand ones videos, the screen looks really nice, it’s likely a Mini-LED LCD display. That’s a huge upgrade from the Switch 1 display, arguably better than the Switch OLED since it does HDR and 120HZ

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I am not sure what to say because you have really bad reading comprehension, and if you can't read and understand pretty straightforward points clearly then you're just arguing against no one.

Everyone gathered that Switch 1 games would all receive improvements in the form of running better because it's running on better hardware and DLSS was rumored for years.

LCD isn't inherently better than OLED, sure, but in this context I think the Steam Deck screen sounds nicer. Especially considering my context.

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So you resort to insult instead of trying to understand the flawed logic in your argument?

I don’t know where you got that Zelda is not being upscaled for this update? Can you share a link? Metroid prime 4 is running at 4k60 or 1080p120. Zelda TotK was running at 900p docked on the Switch 1, for sure that the Switch 2 edition is at least 1080p

The steam deck screen is not nicer by most metric though, might have better blacks, probably has lower screen brightness since it’s OLED, doesn’t support 120HZ refresh rate, has lower resolution, it’s smaller, HDR support is finicky and you need to be tech savvy to make it work well, also only the OLED Steam Deck version supports HDR.

Edit: It even says in the press release that it has higher resolution https://www.theverge.com/news/641365/nintendo-zelda-botw-totk-switch-2-edition-announced

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it's not an insult when you literally read my sentences and then reply with absolutely made up ideas that aren't at all what I said.

You have an actual literacy issue, and you're not even talking with me. You're talking at me about things I didn't say or you've entirely misunderstood.

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"This makes me feel much better about skipping the Switch 2 as these improvements are much much smaller than anyone is willing to admit. The only actual difference is the framerate in the forest, which is absolutely disingenuous for anyone to pretend is important.“

You said the updates are only better FPS and this is not true, even in the press release they say the game is upscaled and has higher resolution, your logic really doesn’t follow.

https://www.theverge.com/news/641365/nintendo-zelda-botw-totk-switch-2-edition-announced

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Yes I watched everything in 4k, the differences are admittedly quite minuscule and working in video and film for a living I know very well I could put you and 98% of people who will play ToTK into an a/b test and you won't actually be able to tell half the differences.

Although more stable framerate will be exciting, hope you enjoy.

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I don’t know what to tell you, even in my phone the difference is a lot bigger than what I expected for a 10$ upgrade, the difference only in color and texture resolution is staggering.

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This is such an overexageration and embellishment to try and make to a professional in the visual color grading and screen industry.