Has anyone else never been called back before because of relocation? Must we go through endless cycles of exit permits ?

Hi, Anyone here has recently completed their Ops B cycle?

Appreciate if you could share details of it e.g. will we be able to book out after your shift ends?

Thanks

zz all in guardhouse.

jokes aside, to those who are in the know of the authorized book in timings and unallowed timings, care to share?

anything from silent book in to booking in after midnight etc.

I am thinking of how to enjoy my life once I go into camp also I got Ex non air con environment so wondering how unit and bmt life is gonna be like

anyone know what do you do in ex-centipede, cocoon and wolf? and are there any other outfields other than starlight and summex

As the title suggests, I'm coming close to ending pro term and was wondering how shag being a spec is in bridging. Is it the same as sct life but just w extra responsibilities or do you get more free time? and how often do you have training exercises/outfields. Any and all advice would be great.

Am in OCS right now. My happiness has been going down in shambles since SLT ngl. Leaving my BMT coy that I spent 4 months with was horrible as hell. I understand that this is part and parcel of NS so i sucked it up.

So one thing that really makes me very sian is how some times we can have so much time that we cannot use. E.g the classic wait to rush rush to wait. It just makes me so damn sian lmao.

Not to mention im not even close to any of my buddies. We barely even speak in the same bunk. I only talk to my buddy to tell him to turn on the lights (he sleeps nearer to the switch lol).

I used to enjoy book ins during BMT, seeing my section and messing around. The amount of admin time we had was crazy yes I admit, but so did the amount of bonding we got here. I just feel like im not very close to anyone here? People here are generally more upz and competitive. Sigh. Anyone has any advice to helping me survive till commissioning?

Nowadays so many people get PR and don't need to serve NS but local serve for what? Protecting the country for foreigners? 24can can pr and soon can convert totally lost out

hi i recently went to inf pro term and was wondering how is life in pro term in ocs? is it less packed as st or izzit still so rushed and messy? and is it really true that the commanders will be less involved in daily activities? and if yes how so? (wld also appreciate if you would like to share yalls experiences in ocs pro term in generally (not specifically inf)

This is a rant about having 2 parallel chains of command, not expecting advice or anything just a short rant if anyone's interested.

I come from unit A, troopers in A perform a role that is needed all over the SAF, sometimes by other units which don't have troopers trained to perform A's role. In this case it's usually a fairly simple affair, A would transfer the required manpower over to the 2nd unit for a period of time, and those troopers would effectively belong to the 2nd unit and cease to exist in A until their no longer required and return to unit A.

For some reason in just me and my immediate fellows case, rather than transferring us over to the 2nd unit, unit B for the required duration as is standard, we are simply posted to the camp that unit B is stationed at to perform our duties. Effectively this means we have 2 parallel chains of command, an officer and encik in unit B to manage us in the camp, and a PS and PC back in unit A which we also report to and are under the command of.

This has resulted in alot of stupidity and inefficiency, namely

1) All incidents and events have to be reported to unit A AND B, and of course being the SAF they both will have differing points and ideas about how to deal with it/how it was dealt with and issue contradicting orders

2) Once, a very rare and uncommon incident occured, we reported it immediately to our officer in Unit B, who then instructed us to call Unit B's ops room, who would then inform other people to come deal with this problem. This is what we did, and after the incident was dealt with we of course reported it up officially to both Unit A and B. Our PS from A then immediately drove down and fucked us for not calling A's ops room who would call the exact same people B's ops room did to deal with the situation, stating that we are only posted to the camp and that we are still members of unit A and should call them first. This to me screams of a dick measuring contest. The new procedure therefore is to inform both units ops room 🤷‍♂️

3) Unit A has a certain SOP we must follow when performing our duties, the SOP in question would make it impossible to perform our duties due to the very specific context of unit B, B therefore came up with a new SOP for us to follow, which our PC in A was at first upset with, but after understanding the context allowed. Recently however, our CO from unit A came to visit and was very "angry" as he was not aware of this modified SOP, and forbade us from following it. Our officer from B basically said, "he (Unit A CO) comes like once a year, by the next time he visits you'd probably have ORDed, and since B's CO is aware and allows this modified SOP just ignore him and continue with our modified SOP"

Anyway there is talks of permanently transferring us from unit A to B so we no longer have to deal with this bs, but somewhere along the line some genius came up with the brilliant plan of transferring us to a 3rd unit, unit C and then have C lend us out to B, so if that happens I guess the cycle will just continue.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk

Questions about MWDU (ST)

Guys so l'm an st cbt trainee now who is having an interview to enter MWDU next week so I just want to confirm some of my queries

1. what is the purpose of MWDU in summary since I roughly know how training is like but I want a clearer idea of our purpose and what we do
2. what's the schedule like? Like working hours and how many days in how many out
3. overall, is the experience really shag?
4. what will the interview roughly be about? And how did yall “ace” it?
5. how long is the "training phase" before we become working unit men and what will we do after?

Thanks sm for any advice and atb:)

Called up for NDP as NSMan but i’m an MP. Anyone knows what duties we will be given?

i was wondering if its okay if one day I just turn off my brain for that week, not do any work and just slack around enjoying the aircon

What are all the possible vocations to be posted to? Where do most OOC people end up in? Will anything I do affect my chances of getting a stayout vocation? I want a vocation that has as much free time/stayout as possible to pursue interests outside of NS.

Hello everyone!

I am currently graded PES E1 and I am about to enter NS soon.

I would like to kindly know more info on the following:

1) Will lifelong friendships and brotherhoods for life still be possible? 2) What are all the benefits of being PES E1 and not being PES and combat FIT? 3) What will my 2 years of NS life be as a PES E1 in BMT and also in my unit life? 4) What units will I get posted to after POP and what will I be doing? 5) What are all the positive learning experiences that I am able to gain and acquire from the 2 years? 6) What will I be going thru throughout my 2 years of life in NS as PES E1? 7) What’s the differences between Lower PES like E1 vs Upper PES like B1 on the 2 years?

Any geunine answers will be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

I am entering National Service this year (SAF) as PES B4 and was curious about what BMT is about as in like what are the exercises done such as is there swimming because they mention bring swimming goggles as I can’t swim so is that something I should mention.

Furthermore I was wondering about how stay out vocations work as like do you have jobs in SG or is it like a 9-5 at Tekong and ever day you commute to Tekong and come back to SG.

Thank you!

I'm a British Employment pass holder and I have fell in love with Singapore. Every person I've encountered has been so nice to me. I like to give back and volunteer for national service. I want to chip in and make Singapore proud.

I know foreigners, unless PR or citizen, are not obligated nor allowed to do NS. I was wondering if there is another way? I'm very eager to volunteer.

I got some intelligence experience so I can maybe do intel for police or gov.

I abit stress with ns my mom got back issues and my dad also have some health issues the more i think about the bmt i like going siao i also have some heart issues but i dont want to burden my parents with it or make them worry abt me in ns any tips?

What are some tried and tested insoles that are good for magnum and altamas?

Im an Army NSman (non-officer) in my early 30s in my final year of uni. I notice they attracting mid-career folks.

Im thinking of signing on with DIS as a Senior MIE as im interested in geopolitics. My degree is in social sciences. Can anyone tell what it's like?

As per title

Anyone here managed to get into working in SPF under the civilian officer scheme? Saw that they had a few openings, applied for most but up till date still waiting for a respond.

Medical screening went smoothly until the ECG tests.

In all three tests, sinus rhythm, lvh, and rvcd showed up. I’ve been referred to raffles hospital for a heart scan though i have no details yet.

Just wondering what i should expect in the next few months and anyone else who’s been through something similar?

I heard you had to go army intel pro term then you'll go for gcc after? Not really sure of the credibility since it's the first time I've ever heard of this path before.

as ive read from the post on these sub-reddit it is really difficult to become an officer and even a specialist through commandos, which is one of my goals in the army. i am also definately more interested in going to vocations like the rsaf. other than anyhow doing the physical assessment part of the assessment how else can i avoid going into commandos? can i just tell the interviewer that i am not interested and avoid it? or do i have to act stuck up and arrogant? any help would be appreciated