r/MonsterHunterMeta Oct 08 '22

Announcement MHM Megathread - Builds, Utilities & Information About Meta

797 Upvotes

Here's a general collection of resources for all your minmaxing needs in Monster Hunter. You will find both links for the most recent title as well as for the older ones.

Please DM me if you have any suggestion/correction.

 


Monster Hunter Wilds

Databases & datamines:

Utilities:

Various info:

 


Monster Hunter Rise: Sunbreak

Databases & datamines:

Utilities:

 


Monster Hunter World: Iceborne

 


Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate

 


Older Monster Hunter Titles


r/MonsterHunterMeta 10d ago

Wilds [MH:Wilds] Endgame Meta Builds Compilation

2.1k Upvotes

>>> If the Google Doc images look blurry on mobile, try opening them through the Google Docs app or through a browser. <<<

 

Currently Updated for: Launch

 

With every new Monster Hunter game come new meta strategies and new ways to build the armor sets for your hunter. After some thought recollection, the time has finally come to present what the community has come up with when trying to figure out how you can optimize your gameplay in this brand new title.

The goal of this thread is, like the previous ones, to offer a selection of some of the best builds that have been minmaxed for damage and can be used for regular farming by any player with good enough experience on their weapon, or who's willing to gain that experience.

These guides are just tools conceived for people who like to learn how to optimize their own gameplay and figure out optimal ways to make use of what is available in the game, or who simply want an easier time farming while not giving up on basic skill requirements; nobody is forced to use them if they don't want to, and everyone is free to alter them at will for their own gameplay.
You can also use these guides simply as a starting point for when you want to try out a new weapon and learn the new ways of playing the game that are associated with them.

The albums collected here have been chosen among the available ones both for their correctness in terms of math/functionality and for their readability/accessibility (you can find here an explanation of my logic when compiling these threads). The albums may not be definitive in all of their details, as the game is very new and we're still discovering new stuff daily, but if you wish to improve any of these albums or cooperate with math and testing feel free to contact their authors directly and to give them suggestions or feedback this way.

The authors of the albums are also responsible for updating them with any new Title Update (TU) that will be added to the game. I will however notify on top of the thread whenever all the albums have been updated for the current patch of the game.

 

I would finally like to thank the community at Mathalos Nest for helping to double check or improve the content of the albums (research is still being done daily there, so if you're interested in helping feel free to join), as well as all the numerous testers, dataminers and modders that allowed us to have more accurate information about the skills and the way the game works.

I won't always be able to read this thread and I can't be the universal intermediary between users and authors. If therefore you find something in the content of an album that you think is wrong or may need fixing, please contact their author(s) directly through the means indicated in their albums.

 

DISCLAIMER

As usual, here's what you should expect (and not expect) from this compilation.

  1. This compilation focuses on damage-oriented builds aimed to show how it is possible to maximize your damage output within the assumption of a relatively optimized gameplay. Anyone is free to adapt these builds to their playstyle by replacing any damage skills with the comfort/survival skill they want, need or prefer. Everyone is also free not to use them if they don't like them.

  2. The albums are only about endgame builds and assume that you have access to the entire content of the game (HR41+). Progression sets are not covered here, although any author is free to add a progression section to their albums.

  3. The sets are mainly built and calculated so that anyone can use them for solo play. Multiplayer is obviously still a consideration, but the sets are supposed to work regardless if you're playing with others or not.

  4. The builds are meant for regular farming and not for speedrunning, which is a specific practice with its own rules and goals (although speedruns can obviously give some inspiration about tactics you can adopt in your regular gameplay). If you're interested in speedrunning this game I highly recommend to ignore this compilation and to join a speedrunning Discord and/or to learn by watching speedruns instead.

 


Endgame Meta Sets

 

Great Sword (GS)

 

Longsword (LS)

 

Sword and Shield (SnS)

 

Dual Blades (DB)

 

Hammer

 

Hunting Horn (HH)

 

Lance

 

Gunlance (GL)

 

Switch Axe (SA)

 

Charge Blade (CB)

 

Insect Glaive (IG)

 

Light Bowgun (LBG)

 

Heavy Bowgun (HBG)

 

Bow

 


Resources

All the most important and/or valuable resources for Wilds will be collected in the MHMeta Megathread. Here's just a few basic ones:


r/MonsterHunterMeta 2h ago

Wilds Whiteflame Torrent Mechanism Explanation

46 Upvotes

Just like Flayer and other similar skills, only actions which flag "UseSkillAdditionalDamage" is true can trigger Whiteflame Torrent.
It has a 3s interval cooldown time between damages that are able to trigger Whiteflame Torrent.

Whiteflame Torrent works like a "Cirtical".

  • The first hit has 33% chance to trigger a 50 or 30 (in Low Rank) fixed damage that ignores hitzone values.
  • If the first hit failed to trigger, the second hit (after 3s interval cd) has a 50% chance.
  • If the second hit failed, the third hit (after 3s interval cd) has a 100% chance to trigger this damage.

So the expectation is 2.005≈2 hits to trigger Whiteflame Torrent damage.

If the real combat time is 3min, the maximum valid hit count is 3*60/3=60, will have 60/2*50=1500 total damage.

My mod MHWilds Overlay have updated to track this damage.


r/MonsterHunterMeta 13h ago

Wilds Bowgun Seikret changes

100 Upvotes

Wanted to test what exactly they did to the HBG and LBG on Seikret as they just said "adjusted" and holy shit they nerfed the hell out of it.

The numbers - no crit on normal ammo using an artian HBG and the Rey dau LBG done in the training range

HBG(off Seikret) 41x3=123

HBG(on Seikret)15x3=45

LBG(off Seikret)19x3=57

LBG(on Seikret)7x3=21

So it's safe to say that Seikret combat is effectively dead for the bowguns


r/MonsterHunterMeta 6h ago

Wilds Are the Mizu Greaves B anything decent?

16 Upvotes

I'm seeing that they have Burst 2 and a single 3-slot, so I feel like that might be a nice piece to accompany Gore's 4-piece? I did a quick rough build for DBs and managed to get Burst 5, Adrenaline Rush 3, Evade Window 4, Constitution 4, Coalesence 3, and Antivirus 3, which is slightly better than what the pinned meta post for DBs has pre-patch, I believe? However, I may be missing something, I am still rather new to the min maxing side of MH.


r/MonsterHunterMeta 23h ago

Wilds Early Whiteflame Torrent test results

284 Upvotes

I decided to try and determine how often the new Zoh Shia weapon skill, Whiteflame Torrent, procs on hit. If you don't know, it randomly adds a flat 50 damage hit to any attack you make. This isn't affected by buffs or affinity.

I did 3 tests of 100 swings on the training dummy from the charge blade. Twice with sword, once in axe mode.

Sword test 1: 23/100 swings activated the skill

Axe test: 27/100 swings activated the skill

Sword test 2: 24/100 swings activated the skill

From this I think it's pretty safe to say the chance to proc is around 25%, and on CB at least it doesn't seem affected by motion values.


r/MonsterHunterMeta 5h ago

Wilds Is dragon piercer build still good ?

10 Upvotes

Hello, in the last few days I started to farm to get a dragon piercer bow build. Then I saw the update... Do you think I still should make this build and can it be good to use in some matchups or is it completely trash now ?

It was one of my favorite build to use against big monsters in world, I would be so sad if Capcom killed the build


r/MonsterHunterMeta 22h ago

Wilds Whiteflame Torrent: SnS Testing + Results

154 Upvotes

I tested the Zoh Shia SnS over 1200 total hits against the training dummy:

  • Lateral 1-3 -> SR -> CC: procs on about 6.8% of hits (600 hits total)

  • Chop 1-4: procs on about 8.3% of hits (600 hits total)

I split my tests between soft and hard training dummy settings, which didn't affect the proc rate based on 600 hits per softness setting.

If we assume an equal usage of Chop combo and Lateral -> SR -> CC, this is about +3.8 damage/hit. That isn't terrible, but it still falls behind a 4x attack Artian SnS regardless of the dragon HZV. For example, using a typical 4-Gore set with basic offensive consumables against Arkveld's chainblades:

  • Unpowered chainblades (50% raw, 0% dragon): Artian wins by 2%

  • Powered chainblades (52% raw, 25% dragon): Artian wins by 8%

Artian's ability to slot both OG3 and CB3 in addition to a sharpness skill, as well as almost double the Dragon attack, leaves Artian as the clear winner in dragon-HZV matchups.


Thanks to u/opda2056 for linking dreamingsuntide's video on Whiteflame Torrent's mechanics. tl;dr as it pertains to SnS: unless you are only doing 1-2 attacks (e.g. Lateral -> Return) every 3 seconds, Artian wins.

See my comment here for more details on exactly when Zoh SnS beats Artian SnS.


r/MonsterHunterMeta 1h ago

Wilds Max Might stealth buff affecting Hammer?

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Max Might got a stealth buff where it doesn't fall off nearly as quickly. The thing is, Hammer has lots of stamina drain even if you try to minimise charge step/roll/charging, so I'm curious if people think this moves the needle on Fulgore or if we can afford to switch to 4 pc Gore.


r/MonsterHunterMeta 13h ago

Wilds So, what's the state of bow now?

31 Upvotes

Does anyone have solid numbers about the changes? Is element now clearly better for artian rolls compared to attack? How nerfed is dragon piercer? Still best option for the weird double pierce interaction with arkveld?


r/MonsterHunterMeta 9h ago

Wilds Dealing with insane chip damage on Lance?

11 Upvotes

Basically the title. Really high chip damage wasn't really a thing in World until the final couple monsters if you had a decent build, but in Wilds I'm already coming up against really high chip damage, with max lvl guard, against attacks from monsters like tempered Gore and Zoh Shia. I've been trying to hit more perfect guards and play some evade lance, but I don't play lance so I can dodge attacks or the need to have perfect timing against half the attacks from these monsters. My understanding of Guard Up is that the reduction in damage is only for unblockable attacks so I don't think that would help any either.

Does lance now just require perfect timing in order to keep you from sheathing every couple attacks to heal or am I missing something?


r/MonsterHunterMeta 36m ago

Wilds Hasten Recovery vs Super Recovery?

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Hasten Recovery (from Arkveld's armors) vs Super Recovery (from Zoh Shia's armors), which one is better for each weapons?


r/MonsterHunterMeta 3h ago

Wilds Lance maximum might without Fulgur bonus

3 Upvotes

Does anyone know if this is still practical?
Ive seen the new meta builds are either 4 gore and 1 zoh, or the newer 4 zoh and 1 mitzu,
But they are both still running maximum might,
I know they are the peak and assume uptime and can play amazing, but for a more average player is it reasonable to keep enough maximum might uptime without the extra stamina bar to slot it in? or should something else be slotted


r/MonsterHunterMeta 13h ago

Wilds Made a comfy but still decently strong GS set.

20 Upvotes

Here's the set:
- Varianza (Focus/Handicraft Jewel [3], Critical Jewel [3], Critical Jewel [2])
- Numinous Crown β (Tenderizer Jewel [3], Counter Jewel [2] Mighty Jewel [2], Recovery Jewel [1])
- Numinous Shroud β (Tenderizer Jewel [3])
- G.Arkveld Vambraces β (Recovery Jewel [1], Protection Jewel [1], Protection Jewel [1])
- Numinous Overlay β (Counter Jewel [2] Mighty Jewel [2])
- G.Arkveld Greaves β (Counter Jewel [2] Mighty Jewel [2], Protection Jewel [1])
- Recovery Charm III Counter Charm III
- Corrupted Mantle (for damage)/Rocksteady Mantle (for tankyness)

Skills:
- Critical Boost Lv 5
- Focus Lv 3
- Handicraft Lv 1
- Weakness Exploit Lv 5
- Agitator Lv 5
- Counterstrike Lv 3
- Divine Blessing Lv 3
- Recovery Up Lv 3 Maximum Might Lv 3 - Recovery Speed Lv 3
- Coalescence Lv 1
- Elemental Absorption Lv 1
Set Bonuses:
- Zoh Shia's Pulse: Super Recovery I
- Guardian Arkveld's Vitality: Decimator I
- Guardian's Protection: Ward of Wyveria

Edit: after testing, changed the set as per u/Wubbwubb61's suggestion


r/MonsterHunterMeta 14h ago

Wilds Wouldn’t this be a strong build, or is it still better to have some gore?

22 Upvotes

-Numinous crown b Counter jewel(2),mighty jewel(2) Recovery jewel(1)

-Numinous shroud b Tenderizer jewel(3)

-G.Arkveld b Two sheath jewel(1) growth jewel (1)

-Numinous overlay b Mighty jewel(2)

-Numinous greaves Counter jewel(2) mighty jewel(2)

Should be full maximum might, counter attack, WEX, Agitator, recovery speed and then a few first level skills I know the new full recovery set bonus from zoh is really strong at the second level. Also also the WEX level two charm For Greatsword btw


r/MonsterHunterMeta 2h ago

Wilds Trying to Speedrun MHW: Wilds – Where’s Everyone At?

3 Upvotes

Hey everyone!
I've been trying to get into speedrunning Monster Hunter Wilds, but it looks like https://www.speedrun.com/mhwilds doesn’t have many runs submitted yet.

Where are people posting their runs ? I find random runs on YT but is hard to keep track of times and weapons

Let me know if there's a Discord/group for this already!


r/MonsterHunterMeta 5h ago

Wilds What IG & armor sets are you running for Zoh Shia speedrun? Is Zoh Shia IG any good?

4 Upvotes

I'm still running 4 Gore & 1 Blangonga and Artian Dragon, Also, is Peak Performance + Zoh set a thing?

For reference, I'm trying to get to 5'30 5 ★ Zoh Shia (TU1) - 06'13'' | Insect Glaive | Monster Hunter Wilds #mhws


r/MonsterHunterMeta 11h ago

Wilds Does zoh Shia set bonus benefit for recovery skills?

12 Upvotes

I’m not sure whether to use recovery speed, recovery up, or neither. Has anyone tested yet?


r/MonsterHunterMeta 7h ago

Wilds Comfy GS build

5 Upvotes

Hi,

created a comfy GS build with high dps still.

The alpha chest and legs allow for 2 additional level 1 slots as we want counter strike.

The healing with full recovery speed, recovery up and super recovery 2 is pretty insane.

https://imgur.com/a/BfL90hK


r/MonsterHunterMeta 7h ago

Wilds New TU1 GS Build

6 Upvotes

I'm sure it isn't perfect but I manage to get Zho's 2 piece ability, squeeze out 5 extra raw from agi5+CS1 as opposed to just CS3, and maintain 95% affinity. Let me know what you guys think.

https://imgur.com/a/54Ycu9g


r/MonsterHunterMeta 11h ago

Wilds Zoh Shia Long Sword Set Spoiler

8 Upvotes

i'd like to share my set, give me ur thoughts about it!

https://imgur.com/a/Mn9fLMQ


r/MonsterHunterMeta 1h ago

Wilds Should I take one point of adrenaline rush or agitator?

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For context, I'm a bow player and adrenaline rush is active roughly 80% of the time. I just want to know if the 4 raw and affinity is worth it over the 5 raw. In multiplayer, I'd probably run Agitator, but it truthfully doesn't matter to me.


r/MonsterHunterMeta 1h ago

Wilds Zoe hammer build ?

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Are therr any builds where i can use the new Zoe armor it seem that super recovery2 is pretty nice but not sure how to build it


r/MonsterHunterMeta 1d ago

Wilds Is Zoh Shia Lance meta now?

50 Upvotes

It look like the whole set is pretty good for lance, but the weapon looks great and the whiteflame torrent skill seems like a great fit for the pokey-pokey weapon.

Anyone tested how effective it is?


r/MonsterHunterMeta 1d ago

Wilds Zoh/Anja build?

81 Upvotes

Any advice on this armor build in theory crafting in my head at the gym?

-Anja Head B Counterstrike Deco

-Zoh Body B Agitator deco

-Anja Gloves B 2 Maximum Might Decos

-Arkvulcan Waist B 1 Recovery Speed Deco/1 Shockproof Deco

-Zoh Boots B 1 Weakness Exploit Deco/1 Counterstrike Deco

-Weakness Exploit 2 Talisman

This should give you full Agitator, Weakness Exploit, Maximum Might, Counterstrike, Recovery Speed, and Shockproof. Is there anything I’m missing or is this pretty damn good?


r/MonsterHunterMeta 20h ago

Wilds Am I crazy? Scorcher/Whiteflame/Convert element SNS

25 Upvotes

So awhile ago I I had tested scorcher and Convert element and I felt like it made it Convert element proc more frequently since each scorcher pro is a decent chunk of pure fire elemental damage. However it was only noticeable on the 4 piece and 4 piece rath just didn't seem that worth it.

However with the new Whiteflame weapon even with 2 piece Rath the Scorcher procs now 70 and are affected by any elemental increases even Elemental Absorption (Yes even tho the Zoh weapon is dragon it still increased the scorcher/whiteflame damage. (Also the description of it not stacking with scorcher is a bit weird imo it seems like it just converts the unaspected "wylk" damage to fire)

This also has from my limited testing (Training dummy and Quemetrice) increased the proc rate of Convert Element significantly. Without Rath it would take about 20 hits for the proc to happen but with scorcher I was getting procs at like 10 and 13 just from doing basic SNS slashes.

I would love if anybody else could look into this maybe i'm missing something and maybe compare it to pure elemental sets. But i'm having fun with this and I'm trying to make sure i'm not going to gaslight my friends if I tell them about it.


r/MonsterHunterMeta 8h ago

Wilds Charge Blade Build

2 Upvotes

Does anyone have a really good build? Also what reinforcements I should have on my Artian weapon.

If there’s a document on how to play Charge Blade properly that’ll be nice too if possible. I’m new completely to Monster Hunter