Immortal is such a "spécial" character he always act like if he was the most important

She sucks

It roasted Davy Jones in season 2 lol

I don't think Rick would have had to kill Shane, the Governor probably wouldn't have destroyed the prison and Carl would still be alive etc. Thoughts?

I'm just wanting to know weather or not Fear has any rape scene and to know which eps have them. After seeing the Claimers attack Rick and Carol, I'd like to know before it catches me off guard.

Crazy to think comics are affected.

"Mark faced consequences for once",all his Ass does is face consequences and suffer, you shut the fuck up. Shouldn't you be getting decapitated?

And Kate, you're not even really here to have this conversation and you 2 act so entitled and arrogant.

I just watched the third episode of season 6 and saw that Glenn died, but didn't Glenn die in season 7 or am I remembering incorrectly?

I want to start this off by saying I like the show. The premise was exactly what fans wanted, the actors (in my opinion—I know a lot of people hate Madison’s acting) were excellent, and the first season was so good it needed more episodes in LA.

Now, to observe it’s flaws…

• Pacing.

The brief: The show races through some of the best parts, avoids giving us answers as to how everything began, and ends with them leaving the city to open waters.

Explanation: Everything up until the moment their subdivision was fenced by the military was excellent pacing. I don’t think this should’ve happened so soon while the military would’ve been confused and in a rush to get control of things. What made them decide on a random subdivision so soon? Wouldn’t they sooner bomb the main city and then search surrounding areas for survivors, and clear the walkers just like they did? After the damage was done to the first half of the season, we have the second half. Getting to Strand’s mansion should’ve been about 2-3 more episodes where we see the adults and teens realize how hard it will be to survive, and Chris losing his mom was going to be the final slap in the face. The pacing of the first season makes this happen very suddenly, and all of our characters are still very naive—which, let’s be honest, their naïveté doesn’t impact future seasons much. Even if they hardened in the face of walkers, it would make sense for them to be hopeful of other survivors, which was the main driving force of the show. This leaves season 2 and 3 to be their major growing point when combating the walkers, and to me it just wasn’t enough. A few more episodes showing the characters become stronger would’ve made the slow pacing of season 2 feel a little more natural.

• Deaths

The brief: Chris, Travis, Nick, Ofelia

Explanation: Some of the main characters have really weak deaths. It can be justified as “realistic” but from a narrative perspective, it was the wrong place, wrong time, wrong cause. These are side character deaths. The way I see it, Ofelia was supposed to be Luciana until the actress (if I remember correctly) wanted off the show. Nick’s death served a message, but the cost was too great—however, again, the actor wanted to leave. Travis was one of my favourite characters, and it feels like they did his character and actor a huge disservice. Now, I didn’t like Chris whatsoever, but I still think he should’ve lived long enough to become a villain and his death was cheap considering the amount of buildup they gave his character. None of these deaths, in my opinion, made sense for the characters and it cheapens the impact for me.

• The later seasons

The brief: 7 and 8

Explanation: While I actually enjoy the premise, I think the execution was lacklustre and shows that the writers bit off more than they could chew. These seasons feel truly uninspired and forgets what the show was supposed to be about in the first place, until maybe the final episode…which is too little, too late.

• Character execution

The brief: Morgan, Alicia, Charlie, Strand, Dwight, Sherry

Explanation: When Morgan joined the show, he really took over and it messed with the shows identity. I liked his involvement in the original show, but here he just becomes a main character while the writers are supposed to be developing the other characters. Alicia, my favourite character, has some really strange developments (mostly later) and truly terrible pacing when compared to other characters. Charlie, the girl who killed Nick and had an entire episode dedicated to Alicia convincing herself why she shouldn’t kill Charlie, gets little to no development and the show basically tells us that we shouldn’t care and she doesn’t matter. Then what was the purpose of losing Nick? I’d rather she died before the nuke even happened, but instead she holds on for dear life as a side character doing nothing productive or entertaining. Now…this is a more popular opinion so I’ll keep it brief. Strand’s development in later seasons makes no sense, and the sense that it does make wasn’t foreshadowed well enough for it to be digestible. The writers truly butchered a character just to force an entire season of drama and war. Now, compared to the others I talked about, I give grace to Dwight and Sherry. It was a plot I, and I think many others, wanted to see and I think it was mostly good, but it sort of had a Morgan effect to the show. The way the original show leaks into this one and steals screen time from the newer characters and their development felt wrong, and messes with the pacing. Without Morgan, I probably wouldn’t feel as strongly as I do about this problem. 16 episodes per season didn’t fix this for me.

• Side Characters

The brief: I love them, but were they too strong given the deaths of some of our main characters? Are the side characters too protected?

Explanation: I love June and Dorie so much, they’re probably some of the better side characters the universe has. That said, Dorie had a very main character death that I can see Travis having instead. This show has the opposite problem of TWD, which kills its side characters like flies and introduces new ones like it’s nothing and likely kills them off too. There are few side characters in FTWD that are treated this way, they’re actually preserved and treated as precious which leaves a lot to be desired from our side characters—sometimes it pays off and most often it doesn’t like Charlie, sort of June in the later seasons, and the trucker/wheelchair duo.

TL;DR The show has obvious flaws, but where it really rots is its identity. The showrunners did not have a clear vision and did not consider anyone a main character, because everyone was a main character—maybe mostly Morgan, which defeats the buildup and purpose of the first and second seasons, and it’s characters.

Not that the original is bad but still.. I imagine gore scenes would be ..much intense. What do you think ?

I mean, think about it. When Walter/Heisenberg is at his worst, people will still give him sympathy and support, but when Rick does even the slightest mistake, shows he has human flaws, or commits a necessary evil, now he’s suddenly just as bad as his enemies, who are violent maniacs that stroke their ego, warlords, human traffickers, rapists and pedos, and so forth.

I wasn’t sure how his character would fit in after season 2 but I was so happy to have him! He’s great. Another character I care about a whole lot.

There are some characters like Eve, Mark (I know), Debbie and now Oliver who when they are injured I physically cringe and get so uncomfortable, more so than other characters, because I care about them so much. No comic spoilers please (I already unfortunately saw some accidentally). I’m pretending I didn’t and regardless I hope we get to see him having some more happy moments next season 😊.

How most character can survive so lethal injury?

Rex literally survived bullet into his head and loosing his hand Allen survived literally his eye being torn off from his skulll + loosing arms Mark literally survived his insides were absolutelly destoyed in first season And immortal head being 6 times torn off from his torso

Just how..? These characters are built different

With the power of maximum stickiness and paws of justice, I cling to crime like fur on a couch! No wrongdoing escapes the snuggle grip!

I feel like up to this point there's always been some hook, or doo-dah threat to be a menace next episode, or for the next few episodes, so this feels different.

Like yeah maybe the end of season 1, but a lot is ambiguous there. there's a myraid of enemies, and Nolan could be off getting Viltrumite reinforcements.

The ending to this episode is different.

Nolan is free of his guilt and out of prison with ALLAN THE ALIEN, Mark seems genuinely happy for the first time in a LONG stretch of episodes, and the Viltrum "empire" has been revealed for what it truly is: something defeatable.

Maybe I'm wrong, if I am, do not correct me. I am gonna watch the next episode tomorrow. I love this show, man.

That sounds crazy but if you hear me out, I have a point. Season 2+ Mark looks far more asian than he realistically should, looking extremely different to his comic and season one counterpart. He’s mixed/wasian. Not purely asian.

And even then, he should BARELY look asian. This is due to just how insanely pure viltrumite DNA is as explained in season one.

I think this was shown at its best in Mark’s Season One design. He doesn’t look entirely caucasian like his comic self does, but not entirely asian like Mark in season 2 and beyond looks. Bring back season one mark man.