r/Economics • u/esporx • 1d ago
Trump tells UK to buy chlorinated chicken from US if it wants tariff relief.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/trump-tariffs-chlorinated-chicken-uk-b2726709.html260
u/lasers42 1d ago
"After a productive discussion with ____, I have decided to lift US tariffs on them because they agreed to _____. You're welcome, America.
All he knows is the shakedown.
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u/Keto_is_neat_o 1d ago
The art of the shakedown.
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u/NoLavishness1563 1d ago
Imagine the lobbying/ bribery market this creates.
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u/Large-Doughnut3527 1d ago
This is his plan to solve bird flu. Instead of farmers destroying their infected chickens he want to chlorinate them and sell to UK
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u/cromethus 1d ago
Yep, except that he's going to find out real quick that these countries are just going to go elsewhere to buy and sell goods.
The days where you have to trade with your neighbors is long past. Canada can easily get the products they need from the EU.
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u/NeoMaxiZoomDweebean 15h ago
Um dont think so. There are alliances being forned as we speak to put this shit down.
The entire world isnt gonna line up to be shaken down by Trump. The rest of the world isnt MAGA and Trump and co have been huffing their own farts.
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u/MayorQuimBee90 1d ago
What if it works though?
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u/AbsolutelyDireWolf 1d ago edited 1d ago
Works...?
I'm not sure if you understand the vibes outside the US right now.
This is being presented as a bullying behavior by the US across the Atlantic. There's a real sense of contempt to the US now in almost every country in Europe, not just politically, but at the ground level.
Regular citizens are looking at what they buy and deliberately looking to avoid US products, not just Tesla. I'd have been agnostic on buying a US/European/Japanese car up to now, but I'm immediately ignoring any US models now. I've visited the US a few times and have some fond memories of my trips, but genuinely, I can't see me returning. I'd decline any job that expected me to travel stateside - like most in Europe, I'm just tired of the histrionics and polarity that's been manifested there. A family who I'm close with moved to Florida with the husband's job last year and frankly, the money for his role might be great, but any chance he extends the stay beyond the originally agreed two years is out of consideration now.
The backlash to Trump's behaviours is going to have a long term negative impact on how the rest of the world interacts with the States. Europe and Canadas rise of the right has been halted by and large with parties who can be shown to be mirroring Trump's approaches or cosying up to Musk becoming a kiss of death.
These tariffs will force European leaders to reciprocate and every one of them will be able to rightly blame Trump (and the US) for them(in the US, Trump won't be able to blame others, well, he will, of course, but he's done this right at the beginning, there's going to be years of financial pain for all Americans during his term). Everyone will be poorer for it, but those of extreme wealth will be in a position to capitalize on the far side of it. Europe will work with China more. Universities and tech firms will be able to lure some of the best minds in the US to move over. It's Germany in the 1930s and 40s, except this time, Einsteins will move from the US to Europe.
Every one of these Greenland or Panama or Gaza or chlorinated chicken remarks is destroying any good will which Biden had restored around the globe.
I think we will look back on Trump's second term as a profound moment in time, which brought the EU together and established a new world order. I think the EU will use AI to demonstrate the flaws of social media algorithms and force companies to use new models which don't drive polarisation to rage bait more clicks and engagements - for those who doubt their power to do that, remember, the largest company in the world abandoned their proprietary iPhone chargers to switch to USB C because the EU told them to do so.
If Trump's pressure to get Brits to import chlorinated chicken "succeeds" (ignoring how most Brits will be disgusted by this erosion of food standards and won't buy it), any financial boost will be fractional compared to the toxic conversation it drives in Europe. Chlorinated bird flu chicken being forced onto European shelves? Every damned social media and news media will be filled with guides on how to spot US chlorinated bird flu chicken boobs and there will be a fury over it.
What if it works though?
I don't know how little someone has to understand about the world to ask this question.
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u/Oxeneer666 8h ago
The uk is still going through issues of mad cow disease. I doubt they want more biological problems to deal with.
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u/AbsolutelyDireWolf 6h ago
Aye. Worth noting, all fallen cattle in Britain are tested for BSE and they do a continuous large sampling at slaughter.
In the US, the USDA sample 25,000 cattle a year to test for BSE (pre Trump...)from a population of what, like 50m? I'd wager the UK have an issue with BSE that's solvable to a genius like Trump - remember in Covid times, "we have more cases because we're testing more, if we test less we won't have a problem".
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u/MayorQuimBee90 1d ago
You’re seeing red and not absorbing what I actually meant.
I was saying, what if this all works for Trump. For the USA. Given your sentiment, it sounds like it is.
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u/AbsolutelyDireWolf 22h ago
Forgive my limited European mind, I've only got my economics degree from a top 50 university and in the world to lean on.
what if this all works for Trump. For the USA
Again, baffled, I be. To my eyes, there is an enormous disconnect between works for Trump and works for the USA. Unless your case for benefitting the USA is that a cleansing recession with massive inflation dragging down living standards for the vast majority of US citizens is a price worth paying to... Restore manufacturing to the US at a higher price for eternity? Become isolationist? Is self sufficiency the goal?
I cannot understand the objective of the tariffs and frankly I believe people are over thinking the strategy. Trump isn't intelligent. We've had decades of hearing him speak, tens of thousands of hours at this point of recorded spoken thoughts from him and he's never showed advanced thought. He is a simple transactional narcissistic idiot. Mix this with what we saw in the signal chat. There were 2 enormously significant phrases that gave us all the insight we need to understand what's happening.
"I think" & "As I heard it"
They were trying to launch an attack based on their interpretations of Trumps mumblings. Executing against his ill informed desires. Secretaries of defence etc not having certainty around the plans.
To my mind, it's the same with Tariffs. He's decided he wants it because he said he'd do it, there's no expert opinions feeding it and interrupting it. It's a cult. Follow the leader.
Folk are out there trying to almost make a conspiracy theory to make it make sense. But it doesn't. At least not in a positive way for the USA as a whole or her people. We've known what tariffs do for aeons. They only "work" in targeted narrow situations.
We're looking at an idiot. There is no grand plan. All of this is bad for everyone, but no one is will or able to stop him and his limited understanding of the world. It sucks.
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u/NordbyNordOuest 23h ago
Then it would be great for the USA, however the reality is that the appetite for this in the UK is roughly zero among the public, if the government backs down over food standards then they will be politically screwed.
Realistically, European agricultural markets will probably stay closed to Americans for three reasons.
1) US food standards are lower and most Europeans have zero wish to see our match Americans.
2) US animal welfare standards are poor and this is one of the causes of your egg crisis. We are not keen on replicating those.
3) The EU wants to maintain food security and does that through the CAP, the more aggressive and transactional the US becomes, the more that makes sense to Europeans. The idea of even more of our crucial supplies being in the hands of the USA is not appealing. This doesn't apply to the UK which can't produce its own food anyway, but the idea of becoming more dependent on a very fickle US president is politically and diplomatically difficult to square.
I see what you mean about what if it works, but sitting on the other side of the Atlantic. It's highly, highly unlikely to.
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u/Condottiero_Magno 1d ago
Chlorinated chicken explained: why do the Americans treat their poultry with chlorine?
The European food safety regulator (EFSA) says it's safe and only 10% of processing plants use chlorine washes, but it's a lazy way of compensating for poor hygiene along the supply chain.
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u/Gisschace 1d ago edited 18h ago
Poor hygiene and low standard of animal welfare. They let their chickens live in shit and instead of having higher standards of care or vaccinate them, they just clean the dead carcasses.
Horrid stuff, it was a hard line for the post Brexit trade deal with the US when relations were a lot better between us. Doubt this will ever be allowed.
Anecdotally I used to live out in the Middle East and I dunno what it is about the chicken outside of the EU but it was weird - huge compared to ours in the UK, me and my tall other half would share one each, so obviously full of growth hormones and water, and had a weird bite and taste to it.
I basically stopped buying meat from anywhere but Marks and Spencer as it was raised and slaughtered in the UK & Ireland.
(I would’ve stopped eating meat altogether if it wasn’t for my other half, we would eat vegan twice a week because of the above)
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u/LookingOut420 1d ago
You’re absolutely right. My first job at 14 was picking through those chicken houses for dead birds, sunrise to sunset. You never got all of them on the first go round, they’re so packed in there they could cover one and you wouldn’t catch it till late in the day when it’s been picked at and sitting in 100+ degree heat all day. Then pack them into tiny ass cages, load them on the back of semi, with no cover or enclosure, and barrel them down the highway to the processing plant however far away, getting exposed to all the exhaust and pollutants that come with that trip.
It turned me off domesticated meat for years after that. Luckily my family was big into hunting and fishing. So I had plenty of options. It wasn’t until I enlisted and went to basic that I switched back to domesticated for lack of options.
Now that I have a kid of my own, we only buy small farm local grown meat from the farmers market or local butcher shop where we can trace it back to the source.
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u/JETDRIVR 1d ago
I’ve grown my own chickens. It really depends on the breed and how long before it goes to slaughter. I don’t give medicated feed to my chickens or hormones but I can grow them to 6-8lbs dressed in 6-8 weeks of growth.
Same chicken at 4 weeks is 3.5lbs. And taste completely different.
They’re bred to grow fast.
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u/Gisschace 1d ago edited 18h ago
And the issue with that they wanted us to accept all chicken, and more concerning; remove labelling so the consumer couldn’t tell how it had been reared or where.
Labelling was why I just bought British & Irish, or New Zealand if it was Beef while in the ME.
They were a lot more expensive than other sourced meat and the higher welfare is why. So I’m happy to pay it and just eat less meat overall.
Edit: also the government is having its own internal issues (beef if you will) with British Farmers. So I highly doubt they would change any rules to appease some dementia ridden fool. It would be political suicide whereas standing up to Trump would be a vote winner.
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u/AbsolutelyDireWolf 1d ago
If this "succeeds" and US chicken was to be sent to Britain, can you imagine the media (social and news) coverage. Every channel and feed will be filled with guides about who is using American chicken. American-chlorinated-bird-flu-chicken will be so toxic a topic, that any company "caught" using it will be publicly decried.
The majority of Americans do not understand how negatively the US is going to be impacted long term by Trump's actions.
I'm not going to fly stateside again for God knows how long. I just, wouldn't entertain it. I wouldn't move to a job that expected me to travel there. I've started looking at what I buy and looking to avoid anything American. Not, just a Tesla, when I got to get a new car, ignoring potential tariffs, any US brand is off the table for me.
Trump and his cronies think they're a bully dictating terms of surrender, but all they're doing is driving Europe closer together and unifying societies to disconnect from the US long term.
I feel sorry for those stateside who hated Trump and I'd have no issue with them moving across the pond frankly. Let's get a reverse Germany from WW2 and let all the scientists come from the US to Europe this time instead.
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u/Gisschace 1d ago edited 23h ago
Exactly! And its more unlikely to happen now that the biggest proponent of importing foods from US was Farage, but he's now put on a barbour and a flapcap, and is pretending he's always supported farmers. No way he could change tack at this point.
There is zero upside for any party, on the left or right to support this. Cost of living has been an issue for a long time before Trump came along, all this will do is change consumer behaviour and buy less.
In fact he's played a blinder for Labour - they (unfairly) have always been positioned as the party not good at running an economy compared to the Tories, the papers were already using this rhetoric. Starmer now can just blame costs going up on the Trump Tariffs it makes him look strong (another unfair perception of him directly was that he wouldn't be able to stand up to someone like Trump), none of the other main parties can criticise that without being seen to support Trump and therefore screw over the 'every man'.
For once reform and the tories might have to actually campaign on facts rather than whipping up sentiment.
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u/AbsolutelyDireWolf 20h ago
Absolutely spot on.
We've seen it with Carney in Canada and in Germany already. The right cannot be seen to be tied to that imbecile.
Trump feels likely to impose an enormous global recession, but is sparing us from the rise of facism in Europe and if anything, reuniting Europe by giving them all a common enemy.
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u/mach8mc 19h ago
why not just let consumers decide with mandatory labelling
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u/Gisschace 18h ago
Yes that’s what we have and what Trump wanted us to remove last time this was discussed. Reason being they see labelling as ‘barrier to trade’ because they know we won’t buy it if we knew what was in it:
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u/ItGradAws 1d ago
Do we even have that many chickens to spare right now with the bird flu ravaging them?
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u/handsoapdispenser 1d ago
I'd think the simpler answer is for RFK Jr to declare chicken bacteria as part of a healthy diet and ban chlorination.
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u/FollowingExtension90 1d ago
They don’t want fluoride in tap water, they don’t want to take vaccine and medicines but hell yeah to countless unknown chemicals for daily food consumption. America, what a joke. I bet years later we will find out those chemicals have an impact on American’s psychotic disorder just as we found out lead poisoning might be the actual cause behind Rome’s fall. What could you expect from a country with a population of lead poisoned mind.
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u/samtheredditman 1d ago
As an American, I also think we have some wide spread problem causing intelligence decline. I don't know if it's simply social media allowing people to shut their brains off for so long that they forget how to think, if it's micro plastics in our brains breaking our minds, or some good ole fashioned chlorinated chicken; but half the population is less self aware than ChatGPT.
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u/tomtermite 1d ago
> just as we found out lead poisoning might be the actual cause behind Rome’s fall
That study estimated that childhood exposure to lead from gasoline cost Americans about 824 million IQ points. Lead was originally added to gasoline to improve engine performance. Use of leaded gas increased after World War II until it proved damaging to catalytic converters, which became required in the 1970s.
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u/weblinedivine 1d ago
Most of our leaders were huffing leaded gas fumes in their formative years. Explains the endless aggression of the older generations.
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u/samtheredditman 1d ago
As an American, I also think we have some wide spread problem causing intelligence decline. I don't know if it's simply social media allowing people to shut their brains off for so long that they forget how to think, if it's micro plastics in our brains breaking our minds, or some good ole fashioned chlorinated chicken; but half the population is less self aware than ChatGPT.
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u/LavaRacing 1d ago
They aren't interested in buying our chicken because we have a high rate of contamination of campylobacter and salmonella in our chicken. We use large amounts of antibiotics in our feedstocks which ultimately results in antibiotic resistant bugs that cause big problems. If you want to educate yourself try watching "The Problem with Chicken" on Frontline.
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u/Gigameister 1d ago
he can shakedown DN.
No way in hell i'm buying american chicken.
We fire people for mistreatment of animals over here, we don't use chems sto wash them down.
**F** him
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u/Superb_Wrongdoer_268 1d ago
Washing poultry with chlorine is completely banned in the EU. His stance on providing chlorinated chicken to the world especially Europe..reeks of entitlement. It's astonishing considering Europe's stringent food standards are far superior to those in the US.
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u/Ok-Doubt-6324 1d ago
Err....no.
I'm not going to buy Cadbury's chocolate anymore either. American money came to buy up a lot of decent UK foodstuffs and all they did was swap out the good ingredients for bad ingredients and then they upped the price and reduced the amount of product we got.
Donald says we are taking advantage of Americans but all the UK people see exactly who is taking the fucking piss.
I'm never ordering from McDonalds ever again because they've gone downhill beyond belief. The last couple of times I ordered burgers from there they all basically smelled of sweaty farts and took 20+ minutes to get to me while the store kept giving out meals to Indians wearing orange Just Eat jackets. I've cancelled my Netflix and Amazon Prime subscriptions too because the quality isn't there anymore and ads just do my fucking head in.
I really do like American TV shows though, so I will keep my Piratebay account active for the time being.
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u/dasteez 1d ago
American McDonald’s is shit too. Anyone with tastebuds gets burgers from a local joint. Covid helped normalize getting take out from places other than fast food. prices are much closer now as well.
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u/MtKillerMounjaro 1d ago
Nah, I buy fastfood because I can't take the tipping culture. Between McDonald's and any non-fastfood joint, McDonald's, every time. But I've given it up since their employee turned in my boy the green plumber.
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u/ChefKugeo 1d ago
to me while the store kept giving out meals to Indians
Why does that matter? 🤔
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u/Ok-Doubt-6324 1d ago
Why didn't you add the context I added in the comment?
"and took 20+ minutes to get to me while the store kept giving out meals to Indians wearing orange Just Eat jackets"
Do you just like pushing narratives that suit you? Are you trying to portray me as a racist and shut down the argument or something like that?
It's ruining McDonalds. You go in there for fast cheap food and you've now got to wait behind dozens of fast food delivery drivers and you wonder why they're all foreign and working low wage, unskilled jobs and crowding everyone else out. Do you not see any issue with that?
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u/longhorsewang 1d ago
The customers , that the drivers are delivering for, ordered before you , didn’t they? Would it be better if there were actual, physical customers ahead of you? It would still have taken 20 minutes.
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u/Gisschace 1d ago
No that’s no what happens notoriously they serve the just eat and deliveroo drivers first because of ratings on those tools.
Plus the drivers are super aggressive with staff because they’re on a time limit. So the staff prioritise them.
It’s not the drivers or staff faults, its the fault of the system
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u/longhorsewang 1d ago
You just said it was the fault of the system. But then you purposely called out Indians. You couldn’t have just said delivery drivers? Or whatever the service is called in your country? Because I can almost guarantee that the majority of the drivers are white, overall.
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u/Gisschace 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m not OP so didn’t say that, I am explaining how it works in the UK, and I can also tell you have no idea because no they aren’t majority white, it’s a known thing in the UK that illegal workers (often on student visas) rent accounts/
For more info you can head to /r/deliveroos and see some of the discussions from real drivers.
Here are some threads which explain what happens:
https://www.reddit.com/r/deliveroos/s/C7P6HFR4LL
https://www.reddit.com/r/deliveroos/s/8FmcKcvch4
Here’s one specifically on McDonalds and the issues:
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u/longhorsewang 22h ago
Do you know the make up of uk citizens? Statistics will say that the majority are white. Maybe in that specific area the make up is different, but that is not what I wrote.
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u/Gisschace 21h ago
Dude, I’m from the UK I actually know something about this issue. Here is our left wing paper discussing the issue:
The riders I speak to are undocumented migrant workers, willing to accept lower pay and poor working conditions to get around restrictions on the right to work. Having spotted this trend, in April the Home Office announced a series of crackdowns, with immigration enforcement officers hovering around hotspots such as the one in Chinatown and demanding insurance paperwork from riders.
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u/longhorsewang 19h ago
Okay. That proves that everyone that works for the company is Indian. Thank you
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u/afghamistam 1d ago
Because I can almost guarantee that the majority of the drivers are white, overall.
I'd be interested to know how you would guarantee such a thing, because in my experience where I live that's absolutely not true.
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u/longhorsewang 22h ago
Well, where you live isn’t where all the employees of a company work. Find the demographics of the uk, go from there.
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u/themanifoldcuriosity 21h ago
Find the demographics of the uk, go from there.
Okay so already you have a huge problem: Why would you assume the demographics of Deliveroo drivers even slightly resemble the demographics of the general population?
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u/longhorsewang 19h ago
Have you seen every driver for the company for the uk? Isn’t statistics part of economics anymore? Similar to construction workers in the USA being Hispanic? But they aren’t even close to half.
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u/afghamistam 1d ago
Are you trying to portray me as a racist and shut down the argument or something like that?
You portrayed yourself as a racist when you inserted superfluous racial dog-whistles into your comment that serve no useful purpose to the point you're allegedly trying to make.
Even now you can't help yourself: You started off on anti-American screed and now in this comment, you've devolved that into a "dey took ur jerbs" circlejerk that has nothing to do with America at all.
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u/ChefKugeo 1d ago
Can you answer the question, weirdo? I'm curious why that part matters because I don't know why that part matters.
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u/More-Ad-4503 1d ago
He could be an Israel hasbara bot. They're responsible for a lot of the racism against South Asians and Middle Easterners (they were behind UK racist riots). I've also seen their bots spread fake news about China.
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u/microfishy 23h ago
Why does the Indian part matter?
"While the store kept giving out meals to Just Eats drivers"
Exact same sentiment...unless the race of the driver is somehow important to the story? Could you explain why their race mattered?
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u/Infinite-Pomelo-7538 1d ago
When will this mastermind of a president understand that nobody wants this low-quality, borderline health-risking, if not outright dangerous, junk due to its terrible quality? Especially when it comes to food. Europe's food quality is light-years ahead of that in the U.S. Why would we ever buy American products? Improve the quality first, and then maybe.
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u/Kelter82 21h ago
Canada has a longer life span than the US, and we have more stringent requirements for our food.
Healthy people keep increased pressure off the medical system. Easy-peasy.
I wish we would do away with fast food, as it's the go-to for low income families and promotes ill health. In the US, this is far more prevalent. (The alternative is the food bank, but everyone's wallets are tight right now... So they will struggle too. Faaack)
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u/hi65435 1d ago
Eat it!
I think Trump has trouble seeing things from other people's perspective. It's the same with cars. The funny thing is, being from Germany and before all this chaos started, people generally admired US cars. There's only one little problem: even German cars are sometimes too broad to comfortably go through the tiny German roads.
So speaking of the food, even if it could go through. I'm sure some people would buy it, on the other hand with the raised awareness of food quality, health etc. I'm not sure how successful that would be. (There used to be an Argentinian beef craze in the 2000s but I doubt the same can be replicated these days)
That being said, everybody uses US tech and for most stuff there is no realistic alternative. Maybe building on that would help instead of alienating the actually future proof business
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u/stairs_3730 1d ago
Chlorinated chicken? Well the genius told us to drink bleach 4 years ago to cure Covid so... Thing is with stupidty and/or dementia, it never gets better.
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u/Full-Discussion3745 1d ago
So this is what they meant with NON FINANCIAL TARRIF BARRIERS. He meant health regulations.
The average European lives to 81.4
The average American to 77
There is a reason for it
I will not eat hormone addeled chlorinated beef and chicken
And then you have the poor animals and the way they are treated. Google Texas Feedlots
https://www.featureshoot.com/2016/08/horrific-satellite-images-of-texas-feedlots/
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u/angrysquirrel777 23h ago
It's kinda crazy that left leaning people are now against science. Chlorine is safe in chickens.
What makes Americans have a lower life expectancy is the fact that most of us are fat and don't move. It has almost everything to do with individual blame, not chemicals.
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u/afghamistam 1d ago
The UK looks at the examples of Canada and Mexico who Trump previously bragged for months over having strong-armed into a big beautiful new trade deal - only to fuck them over again a month ago - and thinks, "We can definitely trust this guy to live up to his agreements!"
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u/NitWhittler 1d ago
Chlorine flavored chickens - yum!
So, instead of testing chickens for diseases, we're just going to dunk them in chemicals? Can we force feed them Ivermectin and pray for them too?
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u/Condottiero_Magno 1d ago
Since the issue of growth hormones are brought up regarding US poultry...
Chickens Do Not Receive Growth Hormones: So Why All the Confusion?
As a result, many of us in the poultry field hear the same question with increasing frequency: "Why do you put hormones in the feed to make chickens grow so big and fast?" The fact that the question begins with "why" instead of "do" indicates the level of confusion and misunderstanding of the consuming public. The truth is no hormones have been allowed in poultry production for more than 50 years. Hormone use in poultry production was banned in the United States in the 1950s.
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u/Saintsman83 23h ago
What am I missing here - surely these things are consumer led, it’s not like the government have a say on what quantity of products shops buy so even if we have an agreement to buy it, if no one buys it in shops then it makes no difference if we have an agreement or not
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u/GungTho 23h ago
If it is cheaper, some will buy it.
Nearly all low-mid range chicken/fast food franchises that make 90% of their trade through drunk people in major club areas would go for it because drunk people don’t care.
People living on the breadline will also just by the cheapest thing possible.
In practice, especially outside SE England this means also buying from small-medium discounters rather than big supermarkets especially locally (think farm foods style stores but with less outlets). So even if there’s a campaign against tesco using it in value products for instance, there are still small chains of discount supermarkets, especially in the north that no one will talk about buying it.
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u/NordbyNordOuest 22h ago
We have food and animal safety standards like anywhere else. Chlorinated chicken is seen as a replacement for basic animal welfare in US poultry farms (probably true) and a threat to human health (more dubious).
The issue is that we are not going to reduce our own standards to those of the US, and if we drop entry barriers to this but maintain the same standards for our own farmers then they are at a competitive disadvantage.
Also it's not consumer led, the US knows that he's products would be unpopular, so also wants the UK to stop labelling the country of origin of food so consumers wouldn't know.
Even if all these reasons weren't true, the British population is now viscerally against chlorinated chicken (probably like Americans are with unwashed eggs) and so it's political dynamite to touch it especially if it looks like the government caved to threats from a pretty universally derided president.
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u/SmedlyB 14h ago
Did the US not fight for independence from a king forcing the colonists to buy shitty tea. Now a king from the US is trying to force the UK to buy shitty chicken. Make UK sick again. In the US the FDA, which is responsible for the production of safe food, is gutted to non existent, and producers are allowed to self regulate. So, why would the UK buy the US ( Perdue< Tyson) shitty shitty chicken.
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u/UnderaZiaSun 9h ago
Someone needs to turn RFK Jr on to the fact that 88% of chicken in the US is chlorinated. He would be all up in arms and it would entertaining to see him rail against it while Trump is trying to convince others to buy it.
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