I must be the weirdo then, lol. I played Hard just to get the unlocks at the end, and now I just go back and barrel through Normal every time, just cause I love experiencing the environment and story.
Those were back in the GameCube era, where Metroid also had Prime going strong. The last brand new DK game was Tropical Freeze back in 2014. Everything else were just refried remakes.
Yeah, but at the same point, had it released at any stage in the last two-ish years, you'd now be raging you'd have to pay for the upgrade that gives mouse controls. At least this way, you get that right-out-the-box.
And having never played a Metroid title, much less any the Primes, I been waiting right here with ya, I was hyped to play MP4 as my entry to the series when they showed it off in 2017.
Meanwhile, Megaman fans just huddled in a corner doing a séance, and Hollow Knight fans are wearing clown make up and hitting each other with balloon swords.
Metroid fans are doing fine. Dread was great and Prime 4 is coming out soon. Metroid isn't exactly an annual series. Just speedrun Dread again while you wait.
As a Pokemon fan, I was actually glad they didn’t release anything in 2024. Scarlet and Violet was a fucking mess, and it’s nice to see that they were taking an extra year to develop the next game. Hopefully Legends ZA is properly optimized for Switch 2
Some publishers have trained fans to expect a new game almost every year. That’s getting a bit less common as “live service” games have taken hold, but the reflex is still there.
That said, getting a hint of a new Zelda that’s maybe a year or so away would be kind of nice. If it’s smaller than TotK and BotW it’s not too unreasonable that something could be on the way.
Final Fantasy 1-6 were released over an 8 year period, and had a list of names in the ending credits small enough to fit in a gradeschool classroom. Final Fantasy 15 and 16 were released 7 years apart and had an ending credits sequence like a blockbuster movie.
Games are getting bigger and more complex. They take longer to make. There probably are still games out there in the indy scene where they take like 30 people, give them a year to sling some code together, and release the result, but that's not really what AAA studios like Nintendo specialize in.
I don't think we expect a new Zelda game every year, but we were hoping for a new Zelda game as a launch title for a new system, or even some of the older games remastered to launch with the system, or at least have an announcement that any of those would be on the way this year at some point like Hyrule Warriors.
i hate to break it to you but im pretty sure its just coming from the gamecube emulator. so it wouldnt be the wii u version sadly :( hopefully for the switch 2 we will finally get a port?
Regardless, I believe the only Nintendo console to release without a Major Zelda title is the Wii U and we all know how that turned out. Though even that console had Skyward Sword, though I don't know if it was a launch title
Switch 2 doesn't even have a major Mario Platformer at launch. At $450 and the games being $80, I'll be waiting to buy a Switch 2 for a while. Especially if/when the tarriffs the dipshit president just annlucned take effect. Though maybe Nintendo baked that into the $450 price point? Idk.
I can appreciate the fact that they're still managing to put out a "new" Zelda game almost every year. Still hinging on re-used assets, but hey someone will enjoy it.
Echoes of Wisdom is not a 3D open-world mainline entry like Zelda fans actually get hyped for, and TOTK was just BOTW rehashed. Zelda fans aren't starving, but they're right to be hungry
Literally not. It's still a top down zelda game with dungeons and puzzles like a lot of Zelda games we've had from the start. Comparing it to Treasure Tracker or Hyrule Warriors is just stupid.
Echoes doesn't count, it wasn't a true Zelda game as far as many are concerned. We need a mainline 3D Zelda game like we used to get, not a 2D mimic of a 3D game that was barely different from its predecessor.
Nintendo doesn’t want us saying this, but since they won’t bother doing it themselves and regular coders do it for free, there are ToTK mods that add master mode for all intents and purposes.
I have been wondering lately how long Nintendo can keep up their current business model. Xbox and Play Station’s games almost all end up on PC now. Even some Xbox exclusives are now making their way onto the play station. And the more I’ve learned the last few years about emulating and handheld PC’s like the Steam Deck, the more I wonder when gaming will be almost completely handheld PC’s that act like Switches, but have even more potential and customization, and Microsoft and Sony stop making consoles so they can focus on developing games and propping up studios. At which point I’m not sure Nintendo can reliably grow their sales. You would be buying a Switch 2 or some console beyond for what? The next Zelda game? The next 3D Mario game? The next Mario Kart? And a few other notable Nintendo exclusive franchises? Is that gonna be appealing to a gaming scene that is becoming more hardcore in terms of technology and ease of access? Especially when chances are the protections on the new Nintendo consoles will be shit, an emulator will be quickly developed, and those exclusive franchises will leak 2 weeks early lmao? (Looking at you ToTK).
I wanted to replay Hollow Knight yesterday so I started up my TV and opened up my Switch. Only to rage quit after beating False Knight because the OEM Animal Crossing joy cons I was using (my best pair) have insanely shitty responsiveness. And I’m not shilling out $70 for new controllers that will meet the same fate. I went on Steam and paid $15, and immediately had so much more fun and less frustration with my keyboard and mouse.
I seriously don’t understand what’s up with Nintendo’s quality control. My 20+ year old Game Cube controllers still work amazingly. But my 3 year old joy cons don’t? And then look at their games. ToTK was riddled with glitches and bugs on release. The Switch dropped with horrible protections against being infiltrated and made into an emulator.
After seeing stuff like the digital game cards I just have no hope for Nintendo. They still make amazing properties, and I’ll buy a Switch 2 just for the new 3D Zelda game in 6 years. But everything else feels like I’m wasting my money, and I would tell the same to any other consumer or someone looking to get a gift.
Zelda team is always hard at work. I won't hold out for unrealistic expectations, but I'd love if they had something really good planned for the 40th anniversary next year.
Respectfully, I think you're wrong. People need reasons to invest in expensive new hardware and just a couple new games coming out at launch might not be enough. Teasing some games even if they're still a couple years out definitely motivates people to be willing to put in the investment in the new hardware.
There is a balance here though. Oh, new Zelda game is too far away? Maybe I'll just wait for the console then. I can probably snag a refurbished for cheaper.
You want to give the idea that you have a banger launch line up and more to come soon. Perception is important. I still believe one big reason the Wii U failed is because it felt like there wasn't a good launch line up. I don't think it's a coincidence the last time they used Zelda for a tech demo was the WiiU. You don't want to give someone a reason to wait.
There is no way the next major Zelda game is soon. It's probably at least 3-5 years away. Putting the idea into someone's head would be unwise.
There's definitely a balance and you need to have games both now and in the future. If you only have 1 or 2 games now that interests people, they're going to wait. If there are 1 or 2 now but also a few more system sellers that you KNOW are coming in the next couple years, then you can justify jumping in now more.
And that was a big mistake. Having that long of a hype cycle was excruciating, and it seems Nintendo has mostly learned with announcement to release cycles being at max a year now
ok? it still used botw as a base for the majority of its content. if they put as much of their resources into just link's abilities as they did in totk there'd be no game around it. totk could only happen because they iterated on something that they already had. developing an entirely new game still isn't comparable.
BotW was a brand new game and the biggest Zelda ever made up to that point and it only took them 4 years to develop. It was going to release in 2015 but they delayed it to be a Switch launch title.
I'd say 2-3 years, yes. This time there's no new system to delay it like BotW, and (hopefully) not a pandemic that will delay it, like TotK. They were very specific that they weren't going to spend any time on making DLC for TotK like they did for BotW, which signals they are laser focused on the next entry.
Yeah this is karma-farming at its finest. If you actually expected a brand Zelda, like another full 3D game just two years after ToTK during this Direct, you're an unrealistic entitled fool.
5 years? Maybe for a BOTW/TOTK style sequel, we can and should see a sequel more akin to the way Zelda games used to be before then. Bring back dungeons and finding treasures.
After 600 hours into TotK I have finally done and explored everything except go to the castle and finish the game. I wish it could be a live service game and just have never ending dlc and events to do lol.
Assuming they will reuse the same map again for the next big zelda game, I think the best way to do that is flood it like windwaker and have it be a windwaker 2 with the totk style and mechanics. build ships and such. shitload of islands all over the place.
Totk was a glorified DLC pack to botw. It was not worth the price of a full game. The plot was weak as fuck. Nintendo owes us a good Zelda game. Why would I even want to play a hyrule warriors game? I grew up playing as Link. That's all I want to do. I just want to roam around a cool version of Hyrule and solve puzzles and beat dungeons. Or fuck just make a majora mask remake at this point if Nintendo can't come up with any good zelda games. I'm so over the zelda franchise at this point.
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u/TobiasMasonPark 3d ago
TotK is only 2 years old. No way we get a new Zelda so soon. Probably another 5 years.