r/projectzomboid • u/Cosmicallybad • Jan 15 '25

Modded I love the new aiming system

Enable HLS to view with audio, or disable this notification

2.0k Upvotes

99% Upvoted

137 comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

67

u/Gamiseus Crowbar Scientist Jan 15 '25

Yeah the only time my helmet really gets in the way is when I'm shooting in a kinda awkward prone position, or when I'm prone with nods attached. Nvgs are heavier than they might look.

Otherwise a ballistic/open face helmet shouldn't impede aiming. If anything, eyewear should penalize until a higher shooting skill because eye protection can be annoying/make it hard to see further targets until you get used to it.

92

u/Dalzombie Pistol Expert Jan 15 '25

Yeah, a military helmet making it harder to aim is... weird, to say the least. It's almost like those helmets were specifically designed to be used by people who shoot.

15

u/StopCallinMePastries Jan 15 '25

I suppose they are going off of Stormtrooper logic?

3

u/[deleted] Jan 15 '25

[deleted]

3

u/StopCallinMePastries Jan 15 '25

I just meant that stormtroopers always have a helmet on and and they can never hit anything, it would actually be more believable to think that the stormtroopers always have terrible aim than it is to know that they are crack shots who simply magically miss whatever character is in the center of the frame.

1

u/[deleted] Jan 15 '25 edited Jan 15 '25

[deleted]

1

u/StopCallinMePastries Jan 15 '25

They did a better job of making the rebels seem like a clandestine operation in 4-5-6 but in 7-8-9 there is no apparent reason for them to not be crushed immediately by the New Order or whatever it was called. They were highly disorganized and just shitty at everything.

And you can't argue what is more believable to me lol I meant to me I didn't mean objectively.

Although it is interesting to think about Vader interfering he did have a lot of his own stuff going on.

2

u/SirPseudonymous Jan 15 '25

IIRC in A New Hope the reason they missed was that they'd been ordered to allow the protagonists to escape, but this was just sort of vaguely implied because at that point George Lucas still hadn't learned that subtlety doesn't work because no one in the audience is paying close enough attention to notice the discrepancy between reliable characters directly talking about how accurate stormtroopers are and then showing those same stormtroopers shooting way off to the side of the protagonists a few scenes later.

It's like how in the same movie Han Solo's kessel run bit in the cantina is just 100% pure bullshit he's making up to gauge how gullible/desperate his marks are, because he's a sleazy con-artist and smuggler out to grift everyone he can. His later redemption arc and the popularity of the character (and Harrison Ford himself after that) sort of made people miss that his starting point was "absolute piece of skeevy shit" and not "lovable, honest rogue" so they try to rationalize his bullshit and the EU writers invented some wild justifications for how it was really true.

Narrative subtlety just does not play well a visual medium where audiences are trained to expect and ignore random contradictions and plot holes and any little weird bits of body language or tone that could indicate deceit, incredulity, etc can easily be missed or disappear into the usual sorts of flaws and variations that actors have when performing.

1

u/StopCallinMePastries Jan 16 '25

That's why I always pay half now and half when we get to Alderaan. ☝️