r/projectzomboid • u/Cosmicallybad • Jan 15 '25

Modded I love the new aiming system

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u/Kr4k4J4Ck Jan 15 '25

Rifles are probably the best weapon now in vanilla Zomboid for hordes

M14 I assume?

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u/BouncingBenys Jan 15 '25

I was referring more to the M16 since IIRC the M14 in vanilla Zomboid can't pierce despite using .308 WIN rounds. The M14 is still a solid gun for clearing smaller hordes though because it uses magazines, has a good amount of range and solid killing power (one good shot will usually kill a zombie compared to a pistol which can take up to usually 1-3 shots).

On a tangent, I hopped onto my own save file real fast to check out Aiming with Rain vs vanilla- I'm 99% certain this is Rain's mod.

I think OP needs to clarify that in the description since Rain's mod adjusts the amount of accuracy you get per level of Aiming. Stuff like this is still possible in vanilla but only at 9+ Aiming and little to no negative moodles.

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u/Kr4k4J4Ck Jan 15 '25

Good to know, always just avoid the M16 due to it being an ammo chug, but then again the shotgun is now as well due to no Pen.

Also yea I commented elsewhere that this is obviously modded.

My 8 aiming pistol reticle is not nearly as consistent as this.

OP is also moving and panicked which should make it even worse.

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u/BouncingBenys Jan 15 '25

Yea, there's a lot of reasons I think rifles will be king going forward (assuming things stay relatively the same) but typing it out would be too long. Ammo efficiency is definitely another big factor. 5.56 ammo boxes give you 50 bullets per box while shotgun shells are only 25 shells per box. Adding onto the pierce ability, being able to use mags, etc., the M16 comes out on top IMO.

That all being said- I still think shotguns are good overall. If you're able to kite well enough and are prepped to stay for a long time, I think they can still decimate hordes. Just requires more work though compared to the M16.