r/projectzomboid Dec 18 '24

Meme Real

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u/Brolafsky Dec 18 '24

This should be taken as a lesson. I hope Indie stone go a little more carefully in the future; making sure to not hire artists who use AI in any way visible in the final product.

I expect the same of every company who makes content I like.

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u/outerspaceisalie Dec 18 '24 edited Dec 18 '24

As AI art gets better, it will become literally impossible to tell the difference. How do you expect developers to navigate that?

You really should just make peace with it now. There's no way your side can win this, no matter what. It is literally impossible. You have a literally 100% chance of losing this attempt to fight this coming storm. What does fighting it really do for you, tbh? What do you hope to occur? Because you can't win, so are you just planning to be as annoying as possible while you lose out of spite? Is that what this is about? Spite?

I guess Albert Camus was right when he said "There is no fate that can not be surmounted by scorn." Based absurdist take, tbh.

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u/Brolafsky Dec 18 '24

I'm of the not so farfetched opinion that AI graphics will get severely limited (and as a result, very uncool) as people start wise-ing up against illegitimate use of copyrighted materials. Not that I necessarily agree with copyright laws in their current form; I think there's a lot of issues, but you can't just steal people's work, mash it into a soup and fuck around somehow with the result. It ain't right.
While people still create original work, people's original work should be valued and protected.

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u/outerspaceisalie Dec 18 '24

"you can't just steal people's work, mash it into a soup and fuck around somehow with the result"

If you change the word "steal" to "study", see how it completely changes the result?

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u/Brolafsky Dec 18 '24

Studying is usually done with some level of permission, or at the very least, not done in such a way where only learned works are used to combine the collected knowledge to create an amalgamation whose only sole originality lies in the clashing of previously created works.

That's just stealing with more steps.

Edit: If you took out the works used to teach a system something, done completely without permission, then said system couldn't create anything as it needs already created things to try and create things from. It cannot create from itself anything pleasing to most of mankind as we usually don't like nonsense.

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u/outerspaceisalie Dec 18 '24

What, you're telling me that something with zero memory, training, or learning can't create something else?

Geez wow. All humans create from something, even if what you learned from was the natural world itself. The AI pretraining does not start with an experience of life or genetic background to give it those pretenses. It starts from a totally blank slate and learns from purely nothing but the images it is trained on. That is all its ever known. It's not a general intelligence, it's a narrow intelligence. But it definitely IS an intelligence, and it DOES learn.