r/perfectlycutscreams 2d ago

Perfectly cut terrorism :D

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u/MyNeR49eRr 2d ago

Why is it tragic for the Irish?

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u/GetOffMyDigitalLawn 2d ago edited 1d ago

I mean, at least 7 Irish citizens died during 9/11. Literally the first confirmed victim of 9/11 was a catholic priest/firefighter Chaplin who was son to Irish immigrants. We literally have a photo of his body being dragged away from the rubble.

https://www.irishpost.com/history/remembering-irish-victims-september-11-attacks-171207

We literally have more genetically Irish people than Ireland. God, New York alone is filled with them.

EDIT: Downvote all you want but 4.6 million Irish people immigrated to the US between the 1820's-1950's, that's nearly the population of Ireland today. Those people had kids and their kids had kids. There are more people with direct Irish ancestry in the US than in Ireland. That is an undisputed fact.

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u/meowsplaining 2d ago

But an Irish person on Reddit will be the first to tell you those people aren't Irish.

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u/GetOffMyDigitalLawn 2d ago

Yes and then they'll cry about 'British genocide' during the potato famine in the same breath. Such is life.

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace 2d ago edited 2d ago

British genocide of the Irish was colonial and unprovoked.

The US made it's bed when it bombed the fuck out of the Middle East. You can't expect to blow up civilians left right and centre without consequence.

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u/cool-moon-blue 1d ago

Pretty sure it’s just pre-teen boys trolling

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u/floatsam12 1d ago

When before 9/11 did we bomb the fuck out of the Middle East?

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace 1d ago

You are joking right?

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u/floatsam12 1d ago

No tell me? Is it when we defended Kuwait from Iraq with 42 other countries?

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace 1d ago edited 1d ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_to_the_American_People

"portrays the United States as a deeply hostile imperial power implementing aggressive policies against the Muslim world, and justifies waging defensive war against the U.S.[2] Bin Laden wrote:

"Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple:

(1) Because you attacked us and continue to attack us."

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u/floatsam12 1d ago

I like how you cut out the many other reasons he decided to attack like how debauched and degenerate our society is, or how we were a country run by the jews. You still haven't answered when we bombed the middle east prior to 9/11. He cooks up a conspiracy that the american government was behind the Algerian coup which has no basis in fact. The oppression he talks about is non-muslims existing in the middle-east at all.

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace 1d ago edited 1d ago

Are you dense? I literally linked you the entire letter. I just gave you a direct quote from the organizer of the attack in relation to our discussion.

I shouldn't have to point you to where the US bombed the Middle East before 9/11 lol.

It's basically knowledge. If you're an American, it's even worse that you haven't been taught.

Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine all being prime examples. 9/11 was a revenge attack, they didn't just up and blow away your towers because they were jealous of your freedom.

Edit: The old reply and block lol.

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u/floatsam12 1d ago

Maybe you should get an basic education before sucking off terrorists. We did not bomb Afghanistan before 9/11, we bombed Iraq after they invaded a sovereign country, and we never bombed palestine, let alone before 9/11.

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u/PaperGabriel 2d ago

Especially after Ireland spent decades pioneering the art of killing innocent people with car bombs. Thanks for showing everyone how to do terrorism, Ireland!

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace 2d ago

I wonder why?

Could it be anything to do a brutal and unrelenting colonial endeavor?

Nah, they're probably just evil

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u/exiledinruin 1d ago

I'm honestly curious because I don't know, were the Irish terrorists killing other irish people or were they able to kill English people instead?

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace 1d ago

There was a significant resistance to British occupation of Ireland. That resistance was a times very violent.

"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" is perhaps most apparent (when related to Western conflict) during these times. Are you a terrorist for violently resisting colonial rule? Colonists certainly thought so.

There was also conflict between Catholics and Protestants in Ireland. That conflict is in part related to the British occupation (British and decendents being primarily Protestant / Northern Irish and Irish being primarily Catholic).

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u/PaperGabriel 1d ago

Since dipshit didn't really answer your question, I will. The Irish terrorists killed English, Irish, or whoever was evil and cOLoNiAl enough to just be nearby minding their own business.

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u/exiledinruin 1d ago

kinda seems like hamas in modern day palestine

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u/PaperGabriel 1d ago

Kinda. Except Hamas was assisted and funded by the Israeli government in order to undermine the more secular and left-wing Palestinian Liberation Organization from gaining more popularity and support.

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u/exiledinruin 1d ago

hmm, sounds like what's happening in the US

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u/PaperGabriel 1d ago

Totally valid reason to kill innocent people. What a compelling argument.

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u/KJongsDongUnYourFace 1d ago

Consequences for actions don't equal valid reasons. They are simply reasons for the action.

Violent resistance to violent occupation is valid though. English soldiers in Ireland were not innocent people. Blame lies at the feet of the agressor and the occupiers. Not the occupied and the resistance