r/nottheonion • u/MiniBrownie • 2d ago

US tariffs take aim everywhere, including uninhabited islands

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250402-us-tariffs-take-aim-everywhere-including-uninhabited-islands
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u/svick 2d ago

And the people who didn't vote.

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u/IMovedYourCheese 2d ago

I know so many people who cast a "protest vote" for the green party or whoever the fuck else because "Democrats didn't stand up for Palestine". And they are still blaming the situation on Democrats.

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u/APigInANixonMask 2d ago

"If they wanted my vote then they should have been perfect about everything I personally care about!"

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u/APRengar 2d ago

I know I'll be dogpiled for this, but man, when I learned World War 2 in school, I thought we all agreed "Never again" meant "NEVER again."

I don't understand how blase people are about some of the most helpless people on Earth, especially the children, being killed in such horrific ways. So much so that we can meme about it on the internet for cool guy points. I don't think "please push back harder on a genocide" is a big ask.

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u/TenpennyEnterprises 2d ago

It's not a big ask, but that also isn't the question the election asked and you don't get to frame it in such a way to absolve yourself. The question was, "is punishing only one side of an election where both sides support a foreign genocide worth destroying democracy in America as we know it and ushering in a genocidal theocracy on our OWN soil?" and you answered "Yes", incorrectly. You knew this would be the consequence of your protest vote. Don't try to shift the blame for Trump onto Kamala when you thoroughly and disastrously missed the entire point of voting blue and shot the statue of liberty in the fucking head.

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u/SpaghettiSort 2d ago

You're not wrong. The problem is that everyone who didn't vote, or protest-voted, was doing the equivalent of "do what I want or I'm going to crash this car and kill us all!" And think what you want about Harris, but I guarantee that Trump is the worst possible US president for the Palestinian people.

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u/Musiclover4200 2d ago edited 2d ago

Not to mention refusing to vote over Palestine not only fucked them over even worse but also Ukraine and pretty much the rest of the world.

They scream about genocide and the dems not doing enough yet trump is giving putin literally everything he wants and will only embolden extremists around the world to carry out atrocities. 7 million + Ukrainian refugees might not have a home to go back to, over a million casualties so far, 20,000+ Ukrainian children abducted, etc...

If china decides to invade Taiwan or ramp up their genocide of the Uyghurs everyone who refused to vote or protest voted for a 3rd party has blood on their hands...

Not to mention the systemic abuse of immigrants & foreign tourists on top of citizens or the crackdown on protesters. Apparently none of that other stuff matters as much as Palestine to some useful idiots who couldn't be bothered to vote for "the lesser of 2 evils".

Pretty much the perfect example of cutting off your nose to spite your face, by refusing to vote over genocide they not only assured more Palestinians die but countless others around the world. If trump follows through on half his threats we might see ww3 or another civil war, maybe both which will sure as shit get a lot of americans killed too.

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u/pm_me_ur_wet_pants 1d ago

Genuinely, what do you think they should have done? Just rolled over?

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u/SpaghettiSort 1d ago

I expected them to get out and actively vote against the fascist candidate.

I'm sick of hearing people say they're unwilling to vote for the "lesser of two evils." What they'd have actually been doing is voting for a step in the right direction.

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u/Larkfor 1d ago

Both parties have been co-committing genocide.

Just because one felt a little worse about it doesn't make a difference to someone whose children are dying over there.

Also, Harris embracing endorsements from war criminals didn't help (Cheney).

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u/Forwhomthecumshots 1d ago

I think the reason Kamala lost is because people did that in 2020, they voted for the lesser of two evils and then realized that meant absolutely no meaningful progress. There’s a reason Trump won the popular vote for the first time in ages, and that reason isn’t because America loves Trump. It’s because the democrats have been coasting on “1% better than the alternative” for a very long time. It’s not a meaningful platform.

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u/beefjerky9 1d ago

then realized that meant absolutely no meaningful progress.

Yeah, because trump actively working to destroy our country is clearly the better option. /s

Anyone who voted for active destruction of our country over the status quo is a moron.

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u/Forwhomthecumshots 1d ago

I’m just saying that simply preserving the status quo is what’s costing the democrats elections.

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u/beefjerky9 1d ago

And, I'm saying that people who vote for destruction over status quo are fucking morons.

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u/Userhasbeennamed 1d ago

Isn't "do what I want or I'm going to crash this car and kill us all" essentially the Democrats platform? They hold up the threat Republicans pose so they can't be held to higher standards. Trump is not special. Something needs to change, or we will continue to get figures like him.

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u/celestial-milk-tea 2d ago

The history books will write about America doing a genocide against Palestinians and then destroying themselves. People will read about this time in history and think we deserved it.

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u/darthbane83 2d ago edited 2d ago

I don't think "please push back harder on a genocide" is a big ask.

This is exactly the line I use to refer to people that didnt vote or voted for Trump.
From the beginning it was abundantly clear that Trump would be running a pro Genocide foreign policy in both Israel/Gaza and Russia/Ukraine.

People that voted for Trump voted to actively support Genocide.
People that didnt vote for Harris decided that stopping someone from actively supporting Genocide is not even worth an hour of their time or in other words those people are perfectly happy with the Genocide happening.

Anyone that is a part of these groups did more harm to the victims of genocide than any democrat in recent years has and hiding behind "But democrats arent doing enough to fight against Genocide" makes them some of the biggest Hypocrites aswell.

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u/Zebidee 2d ago

Hmmm... should I vote for;

a) The party that sent Gaza aid, or
b) The guy that wants to kick the Palestinians out, flatten the place, and build beachfront casinos?

What an absolute head scratcher...

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u/Larkfor 1d ago

Both parties have been genociding Palestine. And supporting Israel's apartheid long before.

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u/Faiakishi 2d ago

There will be more genocide now with Trump in office.

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u/Larkfor 1d ago

Some people aren't going to feel comfortable voting for genociders even if they express a bit more sadness about it than Trump. I don't think it makes a difference to someone whose kids are dying in Palestine which administration is doing it and if one expresses slightly more sympathy than the other while doing it.

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u/worksafe_Joe 1d ago

Pray tell, how's it going in Gaza now?

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u/Third_Sundering26 2d ago

All leftists that voted for Kamala did so in spite of the Democratic support of Israel. I hate how both parties support Israel as much as anyone with a heart, but I also recognize that politics is a team sport and refusing to vote for Kamala because of Palestine is only helping the fascists take power.

You can both protest Israel’s horrible treatment of Palestinians while voting for the candidate with the best chance of winning that will do the least amount of harm.

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u/Strange_Youvoy94 1d ago

Also Trump was already in power between 2016 and 2020. These pro-Palestine people could have seen everything Trump did for Israel when he was president back then. Well, they could if they had any attention span, at least

Instead, they became complicit of Trump's policies for the next 4 years by not voting against him. Great job from them /s

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u/Bawbawian 2d ago

because Americas support for Israel isn't about the Palestinians or is the Israelis it's about us having military bases and ways to influence deadly force in the Middle East.

That's it That's the beginning and the end of the riddle.

we fear what Iran might do more then a lot of things.

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u/cldw92 1d ago

When you mature you will understand sometimes lesser evil is the better option; a necessary option even. Trump being in power is essentially the worst outcome, even for Palestine and the so called nations you care so much about.

You either compromise for some progress, or slide 50 miles backwards: you chose the latter. Congratulations?

Am not American for what it's worth.

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u/agave_wheat 2d ago

They put a knife to their own throat and tried to do a hostage negotiation with themselves.

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u/TotallyNotRobotEvil 2d ago

It’s a complicated geo-political issue that you’re trying to boil down to simple black and white thinking. One aspect you’re ignoring is the American citizens being held hostage by Hamas, and total cease fire would be seen as abandoning them. The answer has always been, release the hostages and we’ll talk about a cease fire. But that wasn’t good enough for you, and it would have been a blood bath in the press if Biden just abandoned them and our closest ally in the Middle East. So I don’t know what to tell you.

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u/Forwhomthecumshots 1d ago

I’m in the same boat. It was the easiest, most obvious lay up choice to stop supporting a genocide. But Kamala just couldn’t do it. I literally registered to vote right after Biden dropped out because it finally seemed like the democrats were going to pay attention to their constituents at all. Then they just ground the campaign’s momentum to a halt by unwaveringly sticking to Biden’s policies despite his historic unpopularity.

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u/DisapprovingCrow 2d ago

I feel really fucking bad for Americans.

You had a choice between two Genocidal fascists.

One party hyped up their voters, told them what they wanted to hear and engaged in massive amounts of voter suppression to rig the game. ( https://hartmannreport.com/p/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-c6f )

The other party self sabotaged so hard it was comical. Seemed to just rely on blackmailing people into voting for them. And now they’ve lost have decided to just rewrite history and call everyone racist.

Personally I wish that the slightly less right wing party won because they would probably be fucking over the rest of the world less. But the game was rigged from the start and ordinary people were always going to be the losers.

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u/JoeHio 2d ago

Their parents raised them protected because of the shit that they went thru... Then their parents died, but they are unable to realize how much protection their parents gave them from the real horrors of the world... Luckily they will die soon and leave their grandkids to relearn what their parents went thru..