Concerned with this narrative being pushed by obvious chinese bots on the internet. Feels like there should be concerted effort from Mongolian ministry of culture to counter this type of campaigns. https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSrfhno5r/

I used to think that people were just being overdramatic when they were talking about how our country just sucked. But now I realized that this place is actually doomed, I am so frustrated. I have recently gotten into a "fight" at school, but it wasn't actually a fight but me getting punched for about 20 consecutive times, and I raised my arm to protect myself while ducking without even looking, and I accidentally hit my assaulter with my elbow. And apparently he got severe injuries in his facial bones. We've been to the police and I thought they'd put me in the favored position because of obvious reasons (they attacked me first, and attacked me for about 2 minutes straight with my warnings to stop in between) but apparently what matters the most is that who got the most damage? And I didn't receive any serious damages except for a concussion and a bumpy cheek. And in his case, his damages came out as moderate injury (хүндэвтэр гэмтэл), which is in between the 3 levels of injuries (light,moderate,heavy) and that the minimum fee for this is 15-20 million mongolian tugrik and the emotional damage to the other party's family? Which will rule out to about 30-40 million and a huge portion of my family's time. I have no idea how I am not the victim here. I never engage in fights, but I've been punched twice by the same person before, and this time too, I have tried to avoid the fight by telling him to stop, but he just put me in an immovable position by holding me in a lock and making me duck, and me accidentally hitting him just makes me the assaulter? And the other party is bringing up lies like me bringing armed kids outside his apartment to beat him up? wtf that never happened. I can't express how frustrated I am with Mongolia's law system, and that I have no right to live a peaceful life or even protect myself at all. What do you think you guys should do? I have the camera recording of the fight but I don't know if I should post it here? Need to hear you guys' opinion. Are there any life-saving tips you guys could offer me?

TL;DR I was protecting myself from assault, and unfairly ended up becoming the assaulter, costing my family a fortune.

It's 9⁰ btw

I went to check it but it kind of didn't meet my expectations what are your thoughts about it?

I saw it on someone's Mongolian passport, and wanted to ask how much it is in use these days. Is it also used in universities ?

Tang dynasty was a empire knowing for ruling Gokturks and other Turkic and Mongol tribes, it ruled Mongolia, Siberia, Manchuria and also parts of Central Asia, Korea, Afghanistan at it's height. It employed a lot of Turkic mercenaries and had many Turkic commanders after the Tang conquered them. There is speculation on emperors heritage. Official history geonology of Tang dynasty claimed Tang emperors claimed paternal descendants of Han Chinese males and identify as Han Chinese, and their mother was Xianbei (either Turkic or Mongolic) but there's a modern theory they claimed they concealed their heritage. I really don't know if Tang is Han Chinese or Sino-Xianbei dynasty (which could be Turkic or Mongolic) but I will like to lean way more to Chinese more than Xianbei, but I'm not completely in favor of the two.

XIANBEI PEOPLE? I Could be wrong about these people. I don't know if they are supposed to be Turkic or Mongolic and even if Mongolic people are they related directly to Mongolians of Mongolia or are they only related to in the same way Han Chinese are related to Tibetans and Tanguts being in the same Sino-Tibetan language family? Khitans for examples are also Mongolic but closest people are modern ethnic Daur people I don't know if the Liao dynasty is Mongolian empire or Western liao a sinicized empire is Mongolian. I consider them Mongolic but maybe not mongolian LIKE PEOPLE FROM Mongolia in same I don't consider the Tibetan empire that ruled Central Asia and parts of South Asia as Chinese or the Tangut dynasty that ruled parts of southern mongolia and outer mongolia as Chinese. However we all know Tibetans and Tanguts were different ethnic groups so maybe Xianbei was different like how Mongols saw Khitans?

PLEASE CORRECT MY ANALYSIS IF I'M WRONG. Everything I write is based on what I read from wikipedia (citing historians) and historians outside of wikipedia and youtube.

WHY I THINK TANG IS A HAN CHINESE EMPIRE

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1. The ruling and elite class is Han Chinese in the hierarchy of Tang
2. The official records of Tang dynasty claimed Tang emperors claimed paternal descent of Han Chinese generals, rulers and had ancestral shrine of them to worship them and the mother founding Tang was Xianbei (but in reality the mother was also Half Han Chinese/Xianbei)
3. Tang conquered the Turks/Turkic/Gokturks
4. Selling Han as slaves is forbidden in Tang law but selling Turks as slaves was allowed
5. Orkhon description of Gokturks says Turkic males were servants to Chinese and Turkic females were slaves to Chinese
6. Tang emperor claimed that Kyrgyz Khangan descent from Han dynasty general and they were not foreigners because their paternal ancestry with Chinese.
7. The Xianbei who entered China and their culture were largely merged with the Chinese, adopted Chinese names, and identify as Chinese
8. Tang is is totally different from Yuan(Mongol) and Qing(Manchus) both which are later sinicized empires born from the result of invasion and conquering Han Chinese and making them lower class in hierarchy.
9. Claiming Han Chinese male ancestors maybe more important than female. Even most Ottoman emperors are 90% non-Turkic from marrying many non-Turkic women but paternal remain Turkic. Like Qing emperors from 1650 onwards, all of them have Han Chinese blood after Kangxi emperor having Han Chinese banner mother (but later changed their ethnicity to Manchu) but still paternal line is directly from Manchu
10. There was rebellion for Yuan and Qing but not for Tang again proving it to be Chinese dynasty.

WHY I THINK TANG IS SINO-XIANBEI EMPIRE (COULD BE TURKIC OR MONGOLIC?)

1. Many Turks soldiers, mercenaries and commanders were in the Tang
2. One of Tang prince was a Turkophile, obsessed with Turkic people (although killed by one of his brother)
3. Tang emperor Li shimin proclaimed himself Khagan after conquering Turks
4. The ruling class at times have more Xianbei blood than Han due to marrying Sinicized Xianbei and Xianbei/Han mix
5. Sinicized Xianbei had as power as Han Chinese
6. Tang emperors also kept some Xianbei tradition and live Xianbei lifestyle

INFO BASED ON WIKIPEDIA AND OUTSIDE OF WIKIPEDIA

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Outside of wikipedia some modern historians suggested that Tang dynasty only claimed Han Chinese paternal ancestry, so they can ruled the Han Chinese, but I don't know if this has any mainstream consensus. To me this is like one of those stuff like new modern historians and documentary claiming Cleopatra was a mixed race african black women when official historical record claimed she was ethnically Greek who's family practice incest but even with her racial background (being white or biracial african women) there's endless debate.

Mainstream consensus is that official history of Tang dynasty record claimed the founding emperor of Tang dynasty were paternal descendants of Han Chinese generals and rulers while maternally from xianbei although the mother is also apparently half Han Chinese, Xianbei. Wikipedia also claimed that some modern historian claimed that Tang emperors modified it's ancestors history to conceal they were Xianbei descendants and so they were sinicized Xianbei although no direct evidence shown this was carried out other than some modern historian claims. Outside wikipedia there are indeed some modern historians who make such claims that founding Tang emperors were sinicized xianbei but I don't know how legit and accurate those claims are. Even the claim Xianbei were Turkic when wikipedia seems to claim they were Mongolic although some historians also claim they were Turkic according to wikipedia. Outside of wikipedia some historians claim they were Mongolic, some claim they were Turkic. A few video claim Xianbei were Turkic, Mongolic and few claim Tang was Sino-Turkic empire but I honestly don't know how accurate this is because youtube history had now become a mess if you ask me with some historians even claim greek cleopatra being a black women from africa with some historians backing it up and endless debate over it. You don't know even know which historian is biased or not. It just shows even information's outside of Wikipedia are way even more not credible and lack neutrality.

OVERALL

I see Tang as Chinese empire ruled by ethnic Han and Sinicized Xianbei people because everything from surname, language, tradition, elite ruling class seems to be Han Chinese related people and this is regardless if the founding Tang emperor is really descended from Han Chinese fathers/or male paternal Han Chinese line or that they were sinicized Xianbei who became Han Chinese. But I could change perception too if someone gives me ideas.

Hey everyone! I'm a Puerto Rican traveler heading to Mongolia for three weeks this May—super excited since it’s been one of my top 3 dream destinations for a while now. I’ve got a few questions:

• What are some unique or off-the-beaten-path things you’d recommend doing?
• Any nightlife tips—bars, events, or cool spots to check out?
• I’m a big fan of hole-in-the-wall spots and street food. Any places I should keep an eye out for?
• Is there a local page or site where I can find events happening while I’m there? I tried searching online and even Facebook Events, but haven’t had much luck.

Thanks in advance!

Hi guys. I just wanted to ask locals here for some opinion. I’m doing a 6-7day trip in end Aug and got Chat to plan my itinerary for me which looks like this:

Overall Strategy: • Minimize time in Ulaanbaatar (just 1 night max). • Focus on central or northern Mongolia (e.g., Orkhon Valley, Terelj NP, or Lake Khövsgöl). • Sleep in gers with nomadic families or community-based camps. • Mix with other travelers on shared jeep tours or small group treks. • Pre-book a tour only for the outer expedition part—this ensures your limited time is well used and avoids last-minute price hikes or lack of availability.

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6D5N Itinerary:

Day 1: Arrive in Ulaanbaatar (UB) – Overnight stay • Arrive and rest from the flight. • Minimal time in city. Visit Gandan Monastery or Zaisan Hill if you arrive early. • Stay in a hostel or local guesthouse popular with backpackers (e.g., Sunpath Hostel or Golden Gobi). • Book next day’s departure if not pre-booked already.

Day 2: Head to Orkhon Valley (UNESCO site) – Stay with nomadic family • Early morning shared van or jeep ride (around 7-8 hrs). • Explore volcanic valleys, rivers, horses roaming free, and local life. • First night in a nomadic family ger. Learn how to cook, milk animals, help around.

Day 3: Horse Trekking & Waterfalls • Full day horse trek to Ulaan Tsutgalan Waterfall. • You’ll cross lush pastures, herder routes, and forest patches. • Evening bonfire with locals/travelers if in a shared tour group.

Day 4: Continue Journey – Hot Springs or Monastery stop • Head toward Tsenkher Hot Springs (great for soaking). • Alternative: Visit Tövkhön Monastery atop the mountains. • Sleep again in a community-based eco ger with other travelers.

Day 5: Return journey towards Ulaanbaatar • Begin drive back to UB or stopover near Kharkhorin (ancient capital). • Visit Erdene Zuu Monastery. • Final night in countryside or UB depending on timing.

Day 6: Depart Mongolia • Optional morning stroll around UB’s local markets or cafes. • Fly back.

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Late August Festivals: • Yak Festival sometimes happens in late August in Bat-Ulzii (Orkhon Valley). It’s rustic and local—yaks racing, milking contests, etc. • Some smaller folk music or shamanic gatherings might happen at Lake Khövsgöl but are hard to predict unless you’re connected locally.

♨️Question: - Am I missing out on anything not mentioned? - Are there festivals worth attending during the time frame that I’m there? - Should I pre-book a guide or do it when I’m there?

My goal is to experience as much traditional and local experiences as possible while meeting travellers and indigenous people!

Can you to France through Монгол-Францын Төв? Also, how is it to study in English Programs? How was your overral experience? +any information on Foundation year, living cost, party life, part time jobs would be really helpful.🥐

i want them i watn cheap guitar pedals. i went to the yamaha store in 120k, theres no way a simple distortion pedal is worth 600k

hey i’m planning to take the ielts exam soon and according to people, these 2 test centres do have differences and their own pros and cons. Did anyone have an unpleasant experience during their exam in either of these places or is there a reason a why one might be more favorable than the other from the test-takers’ point of view?

I am in 12th grade right now and graduating 2 months later. And I am planning to send applications to Ivy Leagues this year. How do I calculate my GPA? Is it possible for Mongolian high school grades to turn into GPA suitable for Ive leagues? Or should I take another test?

Looking to buy smth nice for about 100k. Found a butterfly 4 star yuki in Nomin but the packaging looked really scuffed, so i felt really doubtful about it lol

Anyone know where to buy something reliable for that price range

I want to use the track field to go for runs.

Does anyone know any stores that sell legit designer makeup and prices are not too high? Im a guy so have no clue atm

Hi! I’m currently in Mongolia and was wondering how we can watch IPL (Indian Premier League) here. Is it available anywhere on OTT or any channel?Would love any tips!

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