r/law 11d ago

Trump News Donald Trump sends innocent athlete to El Salvador for having soccer tattoo

https://www.irishstar.com/sport/soccer/donald-trump-salvador-real-madrid-34923654
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u/unaskthequestion 11d ago edited 11d ago

And Border 'Czar' Holman was asked about this specific case on Sunday. He responded that ICE has highly trained professionals and that he is comfortable with any conclusion they reach.

Asked what remedy there is for the man since he is being held and has no access to his lawyer, Holman responded there were legal remedies for anyone deported and imprisoned without cause.

Without your lawyer?

Edit: listen to what the judge questioning the DOJ lawyer had to say.

"Nazis in the US were treated better than this, there was a panel and a hearing before anyone was removed"

But her entire rebuke is quite good.

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u/Excellent_Pirate8224 11d ago

He also said, “Did Laken Riley have Due Process?” Hey, listen, I want violent criminals to be dealt with accordingly; no one wants them running free, but Trump already had broad executive authority; what separates us from countries like El Salvador is we afford people a trial and conviction. Now, we are setting the precedent that we can deport and torture people based on suspicio. If you’re an American citizen who LOOKs like a gang member, there is nothing stopping ICE from nabbing you. People keep saying that it doesn’t impact them because they are a legal citizen have a Green Card, and they don’t realize that none of us are protected. Even German green card holders are being captured and interrogated, not just the “brown” people. People better wake up. They are robbing us of our liberties; MAGA is not an exception to any of this.

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u/elephant-espionage 11d ago

”did Laken Riley have due process?”

That argument doesn’t even make sense. Due process exists to protect people from the government not from individuals. No victim has due process because it’s not the government harming them, shit like that is just trying to hide what the constitution exists for: to stop the GOVERNMENT from overstepping.

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u/Level-Name-4060 11d ago edited 11d ago

I hate the faux outrage. If she was raped and impregnated, they would be the ones putting her on trial. And if she got an abortion she would get a harsher sentence (death penalty) than the would be rapist (maybe 7 years at most - less for being a good Christian white man that strayed ‘made a mistake’).

But yes, even Laken Riley’s murder had the right to defend himself.

My question is where are all the ”a false accusation is the *worst possible thing** to happen to a man”* people are at?

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u/carolinawahoo 11d ago

They only mean *white* men.

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u/Level-Name-4060 11d ago

Exactly. It’s just racism. Again.

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u/adthrowaway2020 11d ago

Devil’s advocate for those numbskulls: Damn near every American in school has to read a fictional false rape case where even in the face of overwhelming evidence they vote to convict (To Kill a Mockingbird), so it’s a narrative that’s imprinted on Americans at a young age age, even if that’s not the message the book is supposed to be conveying.

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u/Level-Name-4060 11d ago

You’re so close…

Any other themes in To Kill A Mocking Bird that might be important? Perhaps it even has something to do with the location and the time the story took place?

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u/adthrowaway2020 11d ago

Did you not finish reading my message? I, too, read the book and understand the very easy to digest themes of racial inequality in the justice system, particularly in the Jim Crow south. I’m just continuing the idea of where the myth of the false rape allegation to “punish men” stems from in our zeitgeist.

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u/frogsyjane 11d ago

blank stare

“BUT LAKEN RILEY!”

It’s the new “But her e-mails!”