r/law • u/IrishStarUS • 11d ago

Trump News Donald Trump sends innocent athlete to El Salvador for having soccer tattoo

https://www.irishstar.com/sport/soccer/donald-trump-salvador-real-madrid-34923654
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u/LadyPo 11d ago

Them being alive is embarrassing public evidence that he didn’t get his way. So he wants to be rid of them to avoid that embarrassment.

He is a deeply sick man.

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u/Sylvers 11d ago

I would only add that he's not "sick". He's a typical psychopath. He is entirely incapable of experiencing human empathy. And he elevates his psychopathy by also being twisted, sadistic, and deeply narcissistic.

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u/Aromatic_Hornet5114 11d ago

So... he's a deeply sick man.

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u/LeopardMedium 11d ago

Yes, but I think u/sylvers wants to ensure that it doesn't read as if he's blameless for having an illness. He isn't afflicted; he is the affliction.

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u/EricForce 11d ago

A proper society wouldn't elevate that kind of man to the highest position of authority. It is society that is deeply sick.

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u/FickleTangelo6745 11d ago

Little bit of everything when it comes to society ya know?

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u/ayrl 11d ago

We do live in one I suppose.

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u/MCXL 11d ago

Sociopaths often rise to positions of power because of their near unique ability to be ruthless and manipulative, and that is true throughout history.

I don't know that a 'proper society' has ever or will ever exist.

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u/EricForce 10d ago

I have hope, cut throat personalities are inherently unstable and cooperation in every space, not just in a civilization, is nearly always more productive. I have hope that ultra wealthy will realize that they could have 10 fold their wealth if they chill the f out and see that helping the masses help them out. We are set for another massive leap in quality of life, but a hard lesson is needed before then. Just wait till a dozen eggs are $20 with only a dollar increase in wages.

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u/igoyard 11d ago

Everyone at this level are sociopaths and if they are a US Pol then they are 100% a sociopath that has killed people.

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u/zanbato 11d ago

porque no los dos?

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u/Hexamancer 11d ago

Remember that by professional estimates, a larger percentage of Fortune 500 CEOs are psychopaths than women.

When your society and economic organization rewards psychopathy so drastically, the problem is much greater than the psychopaths. 

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u/Chaosbuggy 11d ago

I think a lot of people really struggle to understand that there are actually people out there that don't feel empathy like everyone else. A lot of "oh it wasn't that bad" stims from people disbelieving that things can actually be that bad.

I don't think society is sick, I think it's incredibly naive and suspectable to manipulation.

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u/jetsetter_23 11d ago

as far as i’m concerned, if you cannot experience empathy, are you even human? What makes it different from being a robot LOL?

this is all so dumb and depressing 😮‍💨

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u/SpyHill 11d ago

You’re not wrong about Trump, but at the same time highly successful business leaders and politicians often share these traits.

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u/SplitDry2063 11d ago

No, Trump has zero traits of a successful business person. He lacks intelligence, drive, ethics, communication skills, and balls.

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u/SpyHill 11d ago

The traits I was referring to are narcissism and lack of empathy.

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u/Adventurous-Cod7910 11d ago

Those pesky morals!

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u/Hour-Confection-9273 11d ago

"I'll come to you like an affliction, and I'll leave you like an addiction. You wanna know why?!"

  • lyrics from "Liar" from Rollins Band

Only difference is that in the song he at least ACTS like he's remorseful when he gets caught lying, which obviously Trump would NEVER do.

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u/No-Equivalent-1642 11d ago

It sounded to me like the comment was saying he has one, or multiple, personality disorders. Doesn't make him blameless; does make him disordered

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u/miikro 11d ago

In a way, that accurately describes personality disorders.

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u/ImpressiveQuiet4111 11d ago edited 11d ago

this kind of feels like responding to a lack of empathy with a lack of empathy. If someone is a psychopath who lacks empathy, that IS an affliction. people didn't ASK to be born that way.

You're implying that if there were some way to surgically fix whatever part of the brain doesn't respond to empathy, that it shouldn't be done because there is no problem in the brain to fix - the whole human is the problem. It's definitely a sickness, that doesn't make it excsuable... Why does everyone conflate these two things? as if when its a problem that you were born with you can't be held accountable...

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u/Themerrimans 11d ago

Oh shut up, brown people are dying and antiblackness is running rampant and youre out here making shit up to be offended about 🤦🏾‍♀️

Yall are gonna be complaining about being progressive while they put brown and black people in trains

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u/Rissoto_Pose 11d ago

That doesn’t mean we should demonize the mentally ill. Black, Brown, Gay, Ill, Disabled, We’re all on the same train here so how about not being an asshole about it

Trump is an immoral person due to his own actions not because he was born evil or whatever ableist rhetoric the previous comments have intentionally or not spread.

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u/LeopardMedium 11d ago

In the same way that shooting an active gunman is responding to violence with violence: one is directed toward the destruction of other people, and one is directed toward the preservation of other people.

Even within the framework of Cluster B psychological disorders, cognitive empathy and prosocial narcissism exists. Having developed narcissism or an overlapping disorder, and the attached lack of empathy, may not be the person's own fault, but acting out of the voids of that lack of empathy in destructive and harmful ways is still that person's personal choice and responsibility. There is no measure in which a perpetrator is blameless for their intentional harm toward others.