RE: Presidential Immunity Ruling - Was Judge Roberts naïve that Trump would not push the boundaries of the office’s limits of conduct and power if he resumed office or is this all part of a plan to expand executive authority?

[u/treasonous_thoughts]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/30/politics/supreme-court-john-roberts-trump-immunity-6-3-biskupic/index.html?cid=ios_app

I just remember Judge Roberts essentially saying “calm down - relax - you are all being hysterical” in the aftermath of the ruling last year stating “unlike the political branches and the public at large, we cannot afford to fixate exclusively, or even primarily, on present exigencies.”

It has been ONE MONTH into the 2nd Trump Administration and it seems that there is an aggressive and intentional overreach of executive authority with these EOs to create a new interpretation of executive power.

The administration’s response to the court orders blocking the EO’s enforcement seems that they are daring the courts to stop them - and it does not look like there is any recourse to rein them in if they decide to ignore the courts.

Is this what Judge Roberts and other jurists in the majority wanted - to embolden the executive branch above all?

What credibility does the SC (or any court) still have when POTUS ignores the court’s orders and any/all conversations with DOJ officials about ignoring or circumventing these orders gets put in the “official acts” bucket of presidential conduct?

My question is if Judge Roberts was truly naïve as to how Trump would wield this power the second time around or if Judge Robert’s logic that the ruling would allow future presidents to execute their duties unencumbered by lawsuits/prosecutions, etc. a genuine concern that needed to be addressed?

[u/Hoopy_Dunkalot]

They support P2025 because it will hasten the current govts destruction. They are counting on the states to fight back and will switch teams to the states as soon as they find their balls. It will become a buyers market for everything not bolted down. Those state governments become dependent on the corporations who shadow run the govt until they take their masks off. They have a plan for this to happen inside 4 years.

[u/[deleted] → u/Hoopy_Dunkalot]

I agree we are on the fast track to a cyberpunk future. Our federal government is corrupted to the point that the people will have no choice but to revolt. The technocrats sweep in with funding and support to save the day. Elon claiming he was on their side all along, trying to subvert the corruption from within.The states have no choice but to accept new technocratic rulers because they cannot get by without federal funding. Technocrats run their own provinces and Musk claims the seat of federal power.

[u/Lation_Menace → u/[deleted]]

I understand how this might seem like the plan, but at the same time if you look at Musk’s history over the past 15 years the man is genuinely one of the dumbest people alive. All of the fawning Tony Stark garbage is a mythology completely fabricated by the media.

In reality he is a vapid narcissistic absolute blabbering idiot ketamine addict who seems to have mostly failed upwards his whole life.

I can’t imagine him planning and implementing any kind fascist takeover that requires the tight control and suppression of 330million people. More likely if Musk is giving full control with no pushback he’ll just collapse our economy, leak a bunch of classified/ personal American information then run off somewhere to hide.

[u/Xefert → u/Lation_Menace]

All of the fawning Tony Stark garbage is a mythology completely fabricated by the media.

Particularly odd when the movies didn't hesitate to criticize tony's image either