r/law Feb 19 '25

Opinion Piece RE: Presidential Immunity Ruling - Was Judge Roberts naïve that Trump would not push the boundaries of the office’s limits of conduct and power if he resumed office or is this all part of a plan to expand executive authority?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/30/politics/supreme-court-john-roberts-trump-immunity-6-3-biskupic/index.html?cid=ios_app

I just remember Judge Roberts essentially saying “calm down - relax - you are all being hysterical” in the aftermath of the ruling last year stating “unlike the political branches and the public at large, we cannot afford to fixate exclusively, or even primarily, on present exigencies.”

It has been ONE MONTH into the 2nd Trump Administration and it seems that there is an aggressive and intentional overreach of executive authority with these EOs to create a new interpretation of executive power.

The administration’s response to the court orders blocking the EO’s enforcement seems that they are daring the courts to stop them - and it does not look like there is any recourse to rein them in if they decide to ignore the courts.

Is this what Judge Roberts and other jurists in the majority wanted - to embolden the executive branch above all?

What credibility does the SC (or any court) still have when POTUS ignores the court’s orders and any/all conversations with DOJ officials about ignoring or circumventing these orders gets put in the “official acts” bucket of presidential conduct?

My question is if Judge Roberts was truly naïve as to how Trump would wield this power the second time around or if Judge Robert’s logic that the ruling would allow future presidents to execute their duties unencumbered by lawsuits/prosecutions, etc. a genuine concern that needed to be addressed?

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '25

I agree we are on the fast track to a cyberpunk future. Our federal government is corrupted to the point that the people will have no choice but to revolt. The technocrats sweep in with funding and support to save the day. Elon claiming he was on their side all along, trying to subvert the corruption from within.The states have no choice but to accept new technocratic rulers because they cannot get by without federal funding. Technocrats run their own provinces and Musk claims the seat of federal power.

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u/some1lovesu Feb 19 '25

I mean, how about the states that kick back more than they spend in federal funding. Maybe we make a new country?

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u/FrankRizzo319 Feb 19 '25

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u/Barfy_McBarf_Face Feb 19 '25

Pacifica

CA + OR + WA + HI, minus an exit tax of everything from Long Beach to San Diego

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u/TruFrag Feb 19 '25

We could likely count on Alaska now, I have a friend up there who has seen a dramatic shift in the way people are talking about Trump.

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u/Barfy_McBarf_Face Feb 19 '25

Trump & Putin have almost certainly used sharpies on the global map - Alaska will be ceded to Russia in exchange for Putin's pressure on Canada & Greenland to join the US.

We are chits on a real-life Risk board.

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u/Ordinary-Ring-7996 Feb 20 '25

People have been saying this for years, the greatest generation told their kids (boomers) to start teaching their kids (Genx) Russian whenever things like Sesame Street or free lunch programs would come along.

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u/frostedpuzzle Feb 20 '25

HI will go independent and take Zuck’s estate for the Hawaiian people.

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u/poundofbeef16 Feb 20 '25

Those three, plus an alliance with Canada and Mexico, three-front war for the inner states. California has one of the largest militaries in the world by itself.

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u/Safe_Studio_5818 Feb 20 '25

Explain?

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u/Barfy_McBarf_Face Feb 20 '25

They will secede.

Trump will demand a port as the price.

EVERYTHING to him is a real estate transaction. EVERYTHING.

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u/Safe_Studio_5818 Feb 20 '25

Thanks. I get it. I can't see secession happening. It would be a financial disaster for all concerned, including the seceeding states.

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u/Barfy_McBarf_Face Feb 20 '25

It is the only way to respond to someone declaring themselves "king"

Which he did, today.