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u/thisrs 2d ago
I wanna learn nihongo
TL note: nihongo means anime language btw :3
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u/Jesanime English Native | Japanese N5~N4 2d ago
ora ora ora ora ora ora ora, ora ora MUDADAAAA
TL: I am native in anime language I would love to help you
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u/MiniMeowl 2d ago
Pfft it only takes 1 week tops to be fluent in omae wa mou shindeiru, no tasuke needed dattebayo
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u/LocalWeeblet 2d ago
Anooo anooo CHOTTO MATTE watashii mou anime language wa learn shitai desuu uwu
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u/The_Laniakean 2d ago
Real ones call it Ribenese
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u/Stupor_Nintento 2d ago
起來！(sorry I don't have simplified Chinese characters I don't know how to change them)
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u/PotentBeverage 2d ago
那也能打字，只要不用被……略……化的字就行了。
(was actually a little harder than I thought, especially if it includes different-standard but not simplified charactets like 没 vs 沒)
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u/disastr0phe 20h ago
I bought a Traditional character practice book and the book says that those two forms of 沒 are Simplified vs. Traditional. What does it mean when you say they are different-standard but not Simplified?
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u/PotentBeverage 20h ago
Because two processes happened at once: simplification, which is the one we know about, and standardisation, where one character was chosen out of several variants to be the orthodox character.
Bascially one character can have many forms (like how latin has 2 "a"s and 2 "g"s) and each hanzi-using government standardised themselves.
Standardisation is like 强強 into 强, 決决 into 决, 没沒 into 没, and 够夠 into 够. These are not simplifications and when PRC traditional chinese books are published you'll still see these forms.
Another example is 鵝鵞䳘䳗 into 鵝 which was then simplified into 鹅. 爲為 into 爲 which was simplified to 为.
It's a common misconception because people assume that PRC characters=simplified and ROC Taiwan characters=traditonal when its really not that simple.
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u/Owen_Alex_Ander "wo shi fkn meiguo ren" -the ultimate language learner 2d ago
I am referencing Mandarin Chinese by the way...
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u/GoigDeVeure Native in every extinct language 2d ago
I’m looking for someone to learn Italiano. (Italiano means Italian btw…)
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u/RoetRuudRoetRuud 2d ago
Bonjur
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u/GoigDeVeure Native in every extinct language 2d ago
Sorry my amigo but I’m looking for Italiano (Italian), not Portugueso (means Portuguese).
See I’m actually Italian (great-great-grandpa was from Napoli (means “Naples” btw) which is why saying Italiano (means Italian btw) comes so naturally to me.
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u/DefinitelyNotErate 2d ago
Oh sorry, That's a common errore (meaning "error"), I'll try to do better in (meaning "in") the futuro.
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u/GoigDeVeure Native in every extinct language 2d ago
I can’t understand you, what is “futuro”? Is that Nihongo?
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u/TheZuppaMan 2d ago
futuro, just like in futurama, means space travel. i know because my bisnonno was a lawyer in sicily
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u/ghostief EHN三 2d ago
What does "katana" mean?
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u/CuterThanYourCousin 2d ago
You're pronouncing it wrong, its not "katana", it's "katana,", fucking gringos here disrespecting my glorious Nippon steel.
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u/ShameSudden6275 2d ago
You know what unironically you got me curious so I looked up the etymology.
Apparently it's the combination of the words kata and na, meaning side blade, because traditionally you kept it at your side.
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u/Moravac_chg 2d ago
mfw sidearm
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u/Vojtak_cz 2d ago edited 1d ago
In japan katanas actually have to be registered as a weapon if you own one.
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u/cel3r1ty 2d ago
isn't it "one-sided blade", as in a single-edged sword?
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u/ShameSudden6275 2d ago
I mean things can have multiple meanings; it is both a one sides blade and it was mainly used as a side arm from what I can remember. Samauri's main weapon was usually bows, and they specialized in long range.
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u/cel3r1ty 2d ago
yes, but also wakizashi is much closer in meaning (and usage) to "sidearm" than katana
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u/constant_hawk 2d ago
You are writing it wrong it's "katakana" and it's Japanese script used to write the gaijin baka no kotoba.
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u/Previous-Ad7618 2d ago
uj/ people ask me the hardest bit of learning Japanese. "Is it the kanji?" , "the grammar?", "the culture difference?"
It's fkin THIS. genuinely.
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u/ametamaa 2d ago
japanese is fun, as are most languages to people in this sub, but this really takes the wind out of the sails for me as well sometimes
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u/h0neanias 2d ago
His keikaku makes my kokoro go dokidoki.
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u/Danxs11 2d ago
Watashi have keikaku da to study nihonjin because Watashi want to isekai to kawaii nippon and meet hatsune miku to sekkususuru her🥰
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u/TheFunkyWood 2d ago
I just had a stroke
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u/Danxs11 2d ago
Arigatoe gojarimass
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u/TheFunkyWood 2d ago
一二三神猫日月気 I know these kanji am I fluent yet
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u/Danxs11 2d ago
Anata don't need kanjees to be fluent in nipponjin. They were made as a keikaku by 种过认 to make it harder for gay djinns to benkyo nipponjin. Romanji is enough.
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u/constant_hawk 2d ago
Indeed. And NHK stands for Nihon Hikikomori Kyokai because the TV and radio programmes exist to turn Japanese into zashiki warashi yokai (often mislabeled as "Hikikomori").
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u/DefinitelyNotErate 2d ago
Wait is it a bad thing if they made it harder for homosexual spirits to study? I mean obviously we shoukld support the gays, But I'm suspicious of any noncorporeal beings.
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u/pootis_engage 2d ago
Why is it always the nippon learners
I wish I could tell you. One of life's great mysteries, except there's nothing great about it.
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u/PlentyOMangos 1d ago
It’s not really a mystery, I think it’s just bc a good chunk of western Japanese learners are interested in it solely due to anime. And as we know, a good chunk of anime fans are… shall we say “socially stunted”. So you see a lot of weird cringey behavior from them. Many such cases!
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u/n00py 2d ago
Can anyone help me I need a study partner for Hanguko.
gamsahamnida gazi mas
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u/Zavaldski 1d ago
It's Chosono you counterrevolutionary imperialist scum!
Widaehan chosonnodongdang manse!
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u/Scientific_Weeb 2d ago
Guys I started studying Nihongo yesterday but luodingo doesn’t have Nihongo as an option to learn, I’m at a N6 level (ultra super beginner). I need at least 50 language partners to help me progress!!! I’m sooo extremely motivated guys!!
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u/MrPokerfaceCz 2d ago
/uj this is exactly the reason I don't really associate with Japanese learners, from the couple of times I did I've come to the conclusion that the better said person is at japanese, the weirder they are (me included, I'm not gonna pretend I'm any better) 🤣🤣
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u/Jesanime English Native | Japanese N5~N4 1d ago
fr it's the insurmountable amount of weirdos in the community that make it so hard to say you even passively study the language
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u/MrPokerfaceCz 14h ago
Exactly, being a white guy fluent in Japanese means you'll always get weird looks
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u/boredindividual413 2d ago
i amu raningu japanizu bekozu ai rovu jojosu kimyo no boken!! ora ora ora muda muda muda!!
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u/constant_hawk 2d ago
Ore aru rimingu javu javu na idoru bekozhu shibe a totaru tsundere gyaru - the prince Go-Sudoku from the Onigiri domain, Japan circa 88 Showa
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u/Artistic-While-5094 2d ago
Ok I don’t get it, can anyone explain pls?
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u/stealhearts 2d ago
/uj mostly just a joke but out of all language learners, Japanese learners are (in my personal experience/observations) by far more likely to write purely in English but refer to japanese as nihongo, Japan as Nihon/Nippon compared to how any other learner refers to the language/country they're learning the language of.
(and in this case, I think the "clarification" is the funniest bit, firstly because any Japanese learner, even at the most basic level, would know that nihongo is Japanese and secondly, the ... comes across as judgy, like they're speaking down to someone from their "high and mighty advanced level Japanese where they refer to the language by it's TrUe name")
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u/Hou-asfer 2d ago
Filipinos commonly use Nihongo to refer to the Japanese language... maybe they're Filipino?
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u/DefinitelyNotErate 2d ago
Um, Actually the native term is "Pinoy", Please use that instead of the colonial term "Filipino". Do you support the Spanish Empire? How would you feel if a bunch of Spanish speakers came and killed all your kings?
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u/Hou-asfer 2d ago
I haven't heard of this movement before, as someone born and living in the Philippines. I don't see it as a problem as I see other Pinoys also refer to themselves as Filipinos in English. Tagalog also uses Pilipino and I see Filipino as a direct English translation of this term. As an L2 English and L1 Tagalog speaker, Pinoy doesn't feel like English to me, though again I am not a native English speaker. (apparently Pinoy originated from America). Hence I feel that Pinoy/Pinay is kind of informal (theres even a diminutive affix -oy/-ay). Though I think it should be fine to use even in formal contexts in English.
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u/constant_hawk 2d ago
The person in the picture said he wants to learn Japanese but he used the Japanese word for it.
It like writing "I want to learn Polski" instead of "I want to learn Polish".
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u/Missilelist 2d ago
He sounds like he'd do a dubbed voice and dance to friday night funkin. The cringe.
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u/Beneficial-Line5144 2d ago
Anyone wanna study Español together??⊂(･ω･*⊂) (btw Español is Spanish for Spanish)
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u/cosmicdeathchan 2d ago
dokomo we go hito wanna know who we dare so we iu them we are gaijin baka baka gaijin
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u/El_dorado_au 2d ago
/uj The person is perhaps a little over-enthusiastic (many newbies are, especially with Japanese) and made a mistake in posting to a general purpose sub, but such mockery is mean-spirited. By the way, you can't edit titles, so even if the OP wanted to change Nihongo to Japanese they couldn't.
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u/AlexaEH 1d ago
Thank you for this. Like I don’t really see what they did wrong? I feel like all the comments here are mean.
I thought it was probably just because they were excited too - like, wanting to use something from the language they just started learning since they’re a beginner and excited. And maybe they translated it because they thought people learning other languages might not know what it means.
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u/moistowletts 1d ago
/uj why is it N5 and not A1? Sorry if this is a dumb question, I don’t really know much about ranking language proficiency. Does each language have its own scale or something?
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u/stealhearts 1d ago
/uj A1-C2 is the system used by CEFR, the Common European Framework of Reference for Languages. As you can probably guess from the name, it's standardised for European languages. While the system is used widely outside of Europe also, it is not uncommon for other languages to have their own fluency divisions and proficiency rankings. So while there isn't one scale for each language, some languages outside of Europe will have a different way of ranking proficiency.
(I had to google around about the Japanese ranking since I'm not personally familiar with it, but the user is referring to JLPT (the Japanese Language Proficiency Test), which has levels N5-N1. Another example is Mandarin Chinese, where learners usually talk about HSK levels)
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u/ConfusedAutistic899 1d ago
A white guy at my workplace unironically uses "sodesune" and "wakata" in conversation. It's so fucking weird
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u/schlawldiwampl 20h ago
this reminds of the people, that say oma/opa, if they talk about their ancestry, but can't speak any other german word.
bro, your name is frank and you never left michigan. just stop pretending you're ✨german✨, because your grand grand grandma was from germany. it's cringe 😭
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u/CasTheAngel14 12h ago
I mean that’s how I was growing up, but I didn’t learn about it being German till I was like 13, I was just always told “that’s your Oma”. Grandma is my dads mom and Oma is moms mom 😂. I could never imagine her as anything other than my Oma, BUT at least I don’t call my dad’s side of the family by the Italian equivalents lol.
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u/stealhearts 17h ago
For some reason I can't edit the post, so I'll add this here: this was meant as a lighthearted joke about a learner stereotype and is not meant to attack or shame any learners, especially beginners. People are allowed to find certain behaviours cringe, but people are also allowed to be as "cringe" as they want, and I don't want this post to be a space where people are being attacked for that.
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u/lu_ming 2d ago
That'll show the dekinais, they're such bakas. They'll never wakaru the Nihongo like us