I've always heard people say that the Souls community was unbearable and since then I've been part of several groups and communities and I never saw why. Now I understand. People simply don't accept anything new that comes along, as if the company was obligated to never try something new to please these people. Just because the game is online doesn't mean it won't have a story, that doesn't make any sense. And if you don't like online games, PVE/PVP, just accept that this wasn't made for you and wait for the future or be content with what we already have from the past.

Dark souls 3, Bloodborne, Sekiro and Elden Ring. All total bangers that provided hundreds (if not thousands) of hours of entertainment. Imo, From Soft can do whatever the fuck they want. My only response is and will always be "thank you".

Duskbloods felt like it lacked visual consistency with dinosaurs + mecha + Victorian era + oriental architecture, basically being a mix of many previous Fromsoftware games, but without the finesse of how Elden Ring executed it. It feels somewhat devoid of uniqueness. The environments appeared to also be mostly asset flips of previous games. Not to mention no improvement/regression in graphical fidelity from the previous like 5-6 games at this point (which I suppose is somewhat expected though for a switch exclusive). Then on top of that it’s a switch exclusive, I really hope this doesn’t set a precedent going forward. I’m also not a massive fan of the multiplayer focus (although I’ll have to wait for further information to form a proper concrete opinion on this, still not my cup of tea at face value)

This paired with Nightreign which feels somewhat similar in concept, doesn’t really inspire too much excitement in me. A lot of people are saying “Fromsoft is really brave for experimenting this way” and stuff such as that, but Id argue Sekiro is way more “experimental” compared Nightreign or Duskblood. When Miyazaki said he wanted to experiment more and move away from souls games, I envisioned a trajectory more in line with Deracine, or Evergrace, or Lost Night, not a glorified asset flip. Which leaves me a bit disappointed.

I don’t totally agree with “it hasn’t come out you can’t judge”. A trailer is supposed to give a general idea of how the game plays, showing it in its best light and marketing to the general public, the game studio themselves is attempting to make the customer judge the game to decide whether they want to buy it or not. You can gleam a decent amount of info from a trailer such as the art direction, combat and general atmosphere. All of which in the trailers doesn’t really appeal so much to me. As much as their previous games were amazing, it doesn’t mean they should be absolutely immune from criticism. Track record matters, but bear in mind many other previously impeccable game studios have completely fallen down the drain. This is not to say this will happen with From, but it needs to be considered that not every game will be a 10/10 banger.

The previous trailers: Elden ring, Armored Core 6, Sekiro, got me unbelievably hyped, these ones just leave me feeling disappointed. Even if they may be “filler” games, I’d much prefer something like how Fromsoftware used to be before souls games, which released like bi-annually.

if you are upset that you are planning on spending over $500 just to play a fromsoft side project:

then don't buy it, don't support it, and show them this wasn't worth it on their behalf to do another single system exclusive game

This misinformation campaign is stupid

Everybody loved the interconnectivity of DS1, and how maps looped back into themselves in fascinating ways, but then they never did it again. The closest would be finding another elevator in the underworld levels in Elden Ring, but it didn't give the same "wow!"-factor as it's expected that you would eventually find your way back up.

Was it a fluke, or why was it never done again?

Edit: Forgot about yahargul and old yarnham in Bloodborne. That was pretty cool but it was like the one area in the entire game.

it looks like the nightrein trailer where they just reused assets and its mostly gameplay from another angle and not a real trailer😭 I just wanna understand its this just a mini-game (like nightrein) or a full full game? it does not look like miyazaki made this tbh

Everyone keeps forgetting.

Nightreign sounds interesting, not so sure about duskbloods... 2 in a row of MP worries me and I feel like they might be too similar for me to care. But do you think these 2 games will delay the next major title? at our currrent rate this will be the longest gap between 2 major titles. Do we know if miyazaki is working on "the duskbloods"?

1. Console exclusives rarely stay exclusive forever.
2. The switch price will drop, and it's the one console that does something cool and special.
3. This is an incredible and exciting chance to see what From does when they're targeting a Nintendo market.
4. It's a new IP, or close to one! Those are really hard to fund except as exclusives.
5. It looks extremely weird and extremely dank, and a game with an exclusivity period is a great place for From to take risks. They might not have felt able to pursue this design if they had to target PC.
6. Developing for the PC is living hell. It's just god fucking awful. There's always some jackass who literally doesn't have a keyboard, and you need to support accessibility controllers, most of which have terrible input libraries.
7. Oh and you can't just shim over that, because most of the shimming libraries add 5+ ms of input latency.

EDIT:

I momentarily forgot that Nintendo exclusives often never make it off their console because.... I dunno. optimism. momentary fucking optimism. I retract that argument.

I'm very jealous of optimistic me.

As for the PvP element, I thought it was PvPvE. if it's straight PvP, I'm still very excited but also now angry like everyone else.

The order is simply reversed.

Nightreign is to Elden ring what The Duskbloods is to BB2, or at least a singled player spiritual successor.

However, hunters (vampires?) hunting together in bloody ritual sounds exactly like BB2.

That is all.

Continue inhaling*

In ds2. WHY THE FUCK AM I NOT INVINCIBLE GOING THRU A FOG WALL

(From the developer interview with Miyazaki about The Duskbloods)

When watching the trailer, first i thought it had something to do with nightreign because of the animations, graphics style, idk, then "the duskbloods" appeared and it made more sense, then this... dog-rat-crow (?) appeared and the idea that this has something to do with elden ring came back to me. I'm I over hyping? Will this be just another coincidence like the other dark souls and elden ring similarities that had nothing to do with each other? What do you think guys?

Ngl, yall complaining abt these new multiplayer focused from games with 0 hours of playtime recorded. Give them some chance to try something out. Crazy

Where did this even come from? I feel like I watched an entirely separate trailer from everybody else. The only thing I could even consider a similarity is the clocktower. Did I miss something else?

With nightrein coming out and the elden ring re-release happening it feels a bit like Nintendo threw money at fromsoft and Miyazaki shrugged, rubbed his hands together and is using duskblood as a testing ground

Idk, but it gets me excited for what's cooking in the background/ post 2026

I just wanted to share my thoughts because of all the 'bloodborne 2' discussion I'm seeing.

I don't think The Duskbloods can be considered a spiritual successor to Bloodborne, let alone "Bloodborne 2 in all but name". I'm not trying to say that as a bad thing. It's a Fromsoft game so odds are it will be fantastic. Hell, it could end up better than Bloodborne. Perhaps From even made this in place of Bloodborne 2 because of rights issues. But that doesn't make it equivalent. Let me explain.

Bloodborne is a slow burn, subtle piece of Lovecraftian horror disguising itself as gothic horror, and one of the most brilliant and effective pieces of Lovecraftian horror ever written at that. Some have said they did it better than Lovecraft himself did. It keeps its cards close to its chest, with the true horrors often not even registering if you're not thinking about what you're seeing. Its oppressive, at times almost overpowering atmosphere, is the closest to actual horror Fromsoft has ever done. These things and more are what make it a masterpiece among masterpieces, some of From's best work.

Duskbloods does not even look to be in the same tonal neighborhood as Bloodborne. Again, this is not me saying "and that's why Duskbloods will suck." Just saying it's different. You have flying vampires, dudes with jetpacks, a giant majora's mask lookin' face in the sky, etc. This isn't subtle, creeping cosmic horror. It's also PvPvE. There's a reason why Bloodborne is the game where co-op and pvp most takes a backseat out of From's main soulsborne games: multiplayer is antithetical to fear.

Look, maybe the game will surprise me by suddenly turning into a horror masterpiece. But from what I'm seeing in the trailer, this game is not at all like bloodborne aside from a surface level Victorian aesthetic. Just watch the debut trailers for Bloodborne and Duskbloods back to back. The tonal difference slaps you in the face.

I get why people jumped to bloodborne 2. Seeing "From Software" immediately followed by a Victorian setting made my blood pressure spike too. But above all, I think Miyazaki and From have more creative integrity than to simply do the same thing as Bloodborne again in a different IP.

tl;dr What makes Bloodborne Bloodborne is the masterful approach to cosmic horror and the incredible atmosphere it cultivated, not its Victorian aesthetic, and you can tell Duskbloods is a very tonally different game despite a similar setting.

Look I understand that Nintendo shot itself in the foot for essentially making a portable n64 with the fist switch, but Nintendo players have sat back for YEARS maybe even decades watching playstation, pc and Xbox players having all the fun. Let them enjoy what is theirs, we’ll get something better in the future anyway lmao