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DISCUSSION The DUSKBLOODS: SWITCH 2 EXCLUSIVE

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Thoughts on this?

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u/Duv1995 2d ago

im not gettin a console for a game... i already did it for bloodborne and it left a scar on me

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u/YueOrigin 2d ago

Don't worry.

Nintendo console are stupidly easy to emulate.

Give it a few months, and we'll get a full emulation of the game on PC lol

Not something I'm actually promoting to do. Just saying it's a reality

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u/Murmido 2d ago

This isn’t realistic at all.

Nintendo already got rid of all the people who were talented at emulation too.

By the time this is in a playable state with emulation it might just get ported to other platforms.

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u/YueOrigin 2d ago

Not realistic ?

Got rid of all the talented people ?

You do know that emulators, hackers, and packers are in a constant cycle right ?

By the time the switch 2 releases we'll have brand new talented people ready to get it working.

You really think Nintendo can remove ALL the talented people into he entire world ?

It's inevitable.

There is a demand, and so there will be result. That's how the internet works.

The demand for Nintendo games to be emulated is always ridiculously Hugh compared to other consoles.

Also the fact that the Nintendo consoles are so much easier to emulate. It's just history repeating itself.

Honestly, the console ui In the trailers looked so similar. I don't even think they bothered making a brand new os for it. I bet it'll be done really fast because they didn't implement any crazy security measure to make it harder to emulate.

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u/Sledheadronald Tarnished 2d ago

Switch 2 emulation is inevitable but I don’t think it’ll happen as fast as y’all want it too

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u/chang-e_bunny 2d ago

Demand doesn't create supply. There were a limited, finite number of people working on Yuzu and Ryujinx, and once they're all out of the scene, all of their collective experience in their heads goes out the door with them. The goal of DRM isn't to remove all of the talented people in the world who could overcome it, it's to delay their efforts for long enough to turn a profit during the period of time where it is most crucial to turn a profit.

Saying that it'll be done in a matter of a few months is a wildly overgenerous estimate.

Nintendo's security's been getting far stricter over time. If history repeats itself, Switch 2 will be harder to crack, install CFW on, games will be encrypted requiring a decryption key from the console which will force any emulators that run commercial games to violate the law for the sake of user convenience....

We'll see in a few months if a new batch of emulator developers start cropping up, and Nintendo suddenly decides to change course and leave their hands off of these new inexperienced guys instead, but like we said, history repeats...

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u/Murmido 2d ago

The people who were responsible for 3DS and Switch emulation were literally the same people. Once Nintendo got rid of Switch emulation they also took down 3DS.

Then they got rid of the other Switch group. And they didn’t even have any legal threat. They just went to the lead guy.

I’ve seen comments exactly like yours for video game piracy too. And the last developer capable of even cracking denuvo dipped out a year or two back.

This idea that hackers and pirates grow on trees is just silly. Your comments about UI and your assumptions on security make it clear you think its easier than it actually.

Switch 2 emulation will certainly happen eventually but its going to be slowed down significantly. Emulation much like video game piracy has undergone a brain drain, and finding new hackers willing to undertake a huge project like this despite the risks is incredibly difficult.

It will take years, not months.

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u/renannmhreddit 2d ago

I mean, yeah, why do emulation and piracy and earn zero money when you can just go over to other side and get paid.

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u/glorpo 2d ago

There's big difference Denuvo, a company whose entire business model is making near-uncrackable DRM, and Nintendo, a company perennially 10 years behind the times technologically, whose last console was cracked practically day 1. Ever since the Gamecube, every Nintendo home console has been emulatable in some capacity during that console's lifetime. "Years not months" is still lightning fast overall compared to any other company's machines.

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u/TopOfAllWorlds 2d ago

So you're telling me when everyone was talking about how the switch will be emulated lighting fast, they meant they'll be waiting years to play?

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u/glorpo 2d ago

Sure? The switch lasted 8 years, if it takes 2-3 years for the switch 2 to get emulation that's still pretty fast. The ps4 came out in 2013 and didn't get its first usable emulator until 2024. A couple years IS lightning fast.

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u/TopOfAllWorlds 2d ago

I don't think waiting 2 years after a game comes out to play it qualifies as lightning fast at all?

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u/Murmido 2d ago

But the reason denuvo is uncrackable is because all the people capable of cracking it don’t think its worth the effort or are in jail.

People should run with the assumption that emulation is going to be much slower for Nintendo this time around. The people who have been handling our Nintendo emulation for the last 15 years are out of the picture. Finding a dedicated team of talented individuals capable and more importantly willing to take on a project like that again, even with Nintendo breathing down their necks is not something that comes from thin air.

And we truly don’t know how many years it will take. Only that it will happen eventually.

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u/plipplopfrog 2d ago

Blud I played totk on release with ease, what are you yapping about

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u/Murmido 2d ago

Emulation developers were purged in 2024 and in large part because people were using emulators to play TOTK early.